Prix Jacques le Marois

24 declared - I was wrong...it looks very tasty at the moment

That fcukin' French website is just IMPOSSIBLE!
I can't access the runners for the Jacques or even the Arc.

As usual, the hopeless RP & ATR refuse to provide us with group one information outside England

NAVEL, do you understand French, if not how did you translate, please?

Cannot find an ENGLISH version anywhere at all, there is one on
France Galop.
Perhaps you can point out where the English version is, please, NAVEL?

So do I go into DEAUVILLE and hope to find the MAROIS, as obviously I will recognise
the names of the horses, it is a puzzle at times, wish I had French as a lesson but my knowledge only stretches to the odd word picked up here and there, mostly swear words
actually.

Roger Charlton's six-year-old won the Dubai Duty Free over nine furlongs on Dubai World Cup night and attempted to stretch his stamina to 10 furlongs in the Eclipse when last seen.

Having travelled as well as anything until the two-furlong marker, he was running on empty up the Sandown hill and it is no surprise to see him step back down in trip.

"Cityscape is an intended runner in the Prix Jacques Le Marois at Deauville on Sunday and we should have a better idea after the forfeit stage what is running," said Charlton on his website, www.rogercharlton.com.

"With Frankel frightening off most of the runners in the Sussex Stakes, Sunday's race is likely to be very competitive."

The likes of Moonlight Cloud, Golden Lilac, Most Improved, Immortal Verse, Excelebration and the John Gosden-trained fillies Fallen For You and Elusive Kate are all still engaged at this stage.

A shame there is no beting on this currently. I'd have a good cut of Most Improved otherwise, I suspect he'll be underestimated against this field.

I'd agree with sint and hope he is a decent price though it may be a PMU bet. Fallon is very confident if your read his Weekender column and the stable have always believed him to be top drawer and whilst the 3yo milers are not a great bunch, his win in SJP was impressive enough considering how his seasom has gone

I don't think it's something anyone can be TOO dogmatic about, but in a 'normal' French race, I think she'd see out the mile OK.
With a sustained pace on a straight track, with no let-up in the pace (plenty of UK runners) it could be a real concern.

If she's a short price I might well lay her, especially as she had to plough her way through that ground a few days ago - it might have left its mark despite her doing it easily.

I don't know either. It's difficult to get a handle on the time of her last race, there were only 3 turf races and that was the only one run entirely on the straight so there's nothing to compare with. But if the form can be taken literally, even allowing for some of the others running below their best, it looks a considerably improved run. I'd say she's run about 8lbs better than ever, which if she could carry that over a mile she'd be the best female miler I've seen for a long time, better than Goldikova. I have my doubts about that and for that reason I think she may be strictly a sprinter.
One thing is certain though, that time was much too fast for the ground on that part of the course to be very soft as described, couldn't have been any softer than the slow side of good, unless there was a very strong tail wind. I agree though that such an effort could possibly take longer than a week to recover from.

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With question marks on the trip and her last run being only a week ago, Moonlight Cloud would definitely be one to take on. It is a pity that there is no AP market as that would have her clear favourite imo but I don't actually think she will run leaving value in others

not a hope in hell any bookmaker would be pricing up moonlight cloud as clear favorite for this Excelebration would head the market and be an extremely solid and short favorite,probably around 5/4 antepost i would guess,moonlight is a sprinter and 7f is her max trip,over a mile against alot of these entered,she would be 4th 5th or 6th in the betting

the bookies aint stupid and they know this is a staked field over a mile,moonlight is brilliant,but a brilliant sprinter,they would have her down the field a bit when the odds come out and weather you think 5/4 is a terrible price or not,that is about the right price,we know he is pretty much in a different league to the rest of the enteries and is the standout horse in the field

Moonlight Cloud,Golden Lilac,Most Improved,Immortal Verse,Excelebration,Fallen For,Elusive Kate,Cityscape




if all those are in the field,Excelebration is a short priced favorite,you will find out this weekend when the prices go up,no way in hell he will be any bigger than 6/4 if turning up and you must be able to see that

you might not be interested in the price,but the point is,that its just about the correct price and its about what it will be,secondly,no horse on this planet or the next could ever be described as buying money with that total novice jockey on board,the kid is a joke and i would have no doubts that he would have gotten Frankel beaten once or twice already if he was Frankels jockey

have you had a bang on the head sir? are you seriously suggesting that the following would worry Excelebration


Moonlight Cloud SPRINTER,
Golden Lilac CLEARLY NOT UPTO IT ON LAST 2 RUNS AND HATES SOFT GROUND
Most Improved DONT MAKE ME FU CKING LAUGH,WORST CROP OF 3 YEAR OLDS IN MANY A YEAR AND ONLY SCRAPED HOPE IN THE ST JAMES
Immortal Verse MULLERED BY EXCELEBRATION LAST SEASON
Fallen For you Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz PLEASE
Elusive Kate DECENT FILLY,MIGHT RUN WELL WITH THE ALLOWENCES,BUT NEEDS TO FIND MASSES TO CHALLENGE HIM
Cityscape PROBABLY THE BIGGEST DANGER,BUT FORM IN THE UK NOTHING SPECIAL,FLATTERED BY HIS RUNS OVERSEAS


YOU SHOULD BE HAPPY THAT YOU ARE GOING TO GET THE CHANCE TO LAY HIM AT A SHORT PRICE

GOOD LUCK WITH THAT WORKING OUT FOR YOU SIR

we shall just have to wait and see what happens,but if the field remains strong and he goes on to win like an odds on shot,you can then come back with your 30 years experience and post your apologies sir

and your quote of 'frankels b1tch' was very harsh,Excelebration is without doubt one of the best milers of the past number of years and you should not let frankels brilliance cloud that fact and you can totally forget the form of the queen anne,o'briens foolishness was the only reason for the 11 length margin,had he been ridden properly,i would have been 5 lengths at most

Farhh might have been the third one, though I'm not certain if he wasn't one of those who dropped out from the original 24 entries.

I can't wait for this race...it's a real conundrum
Any further news on the Gosden duo?

HRE - who are you figuring are definites?
And which are doubtful?

Siyouma's already defected, and I'd STILL be surprised if Golden Lilac runs...it doesn't make sense when she has a much better option next week!
Fabre ALWAYS seems to do the right thing with his horses and to run here is a strange move, especially as she was totally outpointed by Elusive Kate over the same C&D a fortnight ago.

You reckon Gosden will run both fillies?

How did you find out Ballydoyle aren't running the bums?

Check www.racingandsports.com.au/form-guide/

They put the major French meetings up with full free form in English. Terrific service.