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MEDICEAN MAN FOR THE ABBEYE
MEDICEAN MAN FOR THE ABBEYE
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It was me who mentioned the draw factor for Sole Power. A hold up horse drawn on the inside is very inconvenienced imo
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Sole Power best price 11/2 wiv billies - soz Navel !
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Keep up Liam we are well past that
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Ive just bin making a lasagne ffs
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 hope it was nice! |
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Have to say that when you see the calibre of horse in the abbeye why the trainer of Medician Man has bottled it i just dont know, still its their horse and i guess they no more, it was everything i thought i low quality group one there for the taking, oh well never mind, have to wait and see now what happens with the draw as thats essential, if Ballesteros gets a good draw might have an ew punt on him at huge odds especially with the ground going to be quite soft, so they say
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Pity he didnt show Manuel, Im sure you'l find summat else.
Roo - Avin it 2nite, any decent chef knows a days infusing is essential 4 max taste, far be it for me tho to clog the fred with tales of culinary wizzardry, allez Wizz kid  |
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Your back up Manuel is a good shout actually, considering the spirit of the thread
Liam obviously belives the chefs at the cheap restaurants he freqents who simply reheat yesterday's food |
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WK and Hamish have absolutely perfect pitches
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Looking at the draw and the likely shape of the race, If Mayson was to break smartly i wouldnt fancy anything passing him in this ground but i suspect Inxile and Hamish to compete along the rail and think Mayson might end up stuck behind horses. I think id want one that can travel well and take advantage when they tire in front and my two would be Monsieur Joe and Swiss Spirit. Monsieur Joe has steadily been improving for 12 months, travels well, will like the ground, loves the course and has the right sort of jockey to execute the tactics. Also ive an unhealthy obsession with Robert Cowell trained sprinters. Swiss spirit is unraced on soft ground but invincible spirit offspring generally go on soft ground, and Swiss spirits siblings certainly do. Buick tends to have his horses in the right place and if it handles the ground i think it could be bang there.
Good luck with your bets, particularly the Hamish one as im a huge fan of the horse but, for me,` probably a bit too much pace around him tomorrow. |
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Apparently Cay Verde has been sold and is a non-runner tomorrow
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Unfortunately the ground looks like it will be too slow for Hamish, hope I'm wrong.
As the ground is likely to be slow its no suprise to see Manuel's back Ballesteros being all blue on oddschecker |
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Havent seen the stats, and im not that old, but i cant imagine historically two year olds having a good record in this race. Suprised to see one in there actually.
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Ballesteros has the form in the book on the ground, no doubt about that. Its recent form would put me right off though. When all is said and done though, Manuel is correct in that this is the type of race that can and does produce a logic defying result. Im very surprised the connections of Mince avoided the race to run in a group 3 today as i think it would have hosed up tomorrow.
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Mack - I wouldn't say she'd have hosed up but she'd definitely been at the top end of the market and would have had every chance...these trainers make some surprisingly negative decisions sometimes
 I still think it's a toss-up between Sole Power & Wizz Kid as the former, who's the class in the field, isn't exactly unproven on a soft surface. Looks like my wish for a double figure price is getting there (10's on here) and I can't help but be drawn to the fact he'd be around 11/4 on normal ground. |
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Sole Power easily the class horse in the field id agree. For me though its worst performance in the past year was the Nunthorpe when the ground and draw went against him. I feel its the same tomorrow. If the ground was quicker id expect him to go close despite the draw. I think he has it all to do.
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I'd agree about the ground/draw mack, but double figures? I cannot believe he will go off at that price and worth a saver if he does
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He did surprise me with how well he ran in the Kings Stand on good/soft i suppose. I just feel his big asset is a turn of foot off a strong pace and slow ground blunts that. Best of luck either way gents, ill miss the race live but hopefully someone bags the winner
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What a pity there was no ante-post book on this race as I suspect Wizz Kid would have been HUGE on here in anticipation of faster conditions.
I got something right for a change, and that 14/1 with the bookies yesterday when we KNEW what the ground was like was, in hindsight a gift! Alas...I didn't make enough as I'd have liked  I also got the market right about Sole Power (figuring it would be a double figure price) though it now seems apparent he doesn't go on ground like today - I just imagined everyone really kicking themselves if Sole Power bolted up at a massive price, and that 'the gamble' was worth it - shame the F/C didn't come off PS - Roo - unlucky with your long-range friend Hamish...he's a smashing sprinter and will probably be back next year. Also, it looks like Mayson is a better sprinter than I gave him credit for. |
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Navel I will be backing both Hamish and WK.
No worries Navel - all good |
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 Sorry Roo  |
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No probs and well played yourself
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Well done Roo, called it brilliantly
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Medicean man entered up 3.15 curragh sunday
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:)
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Given he usually runs well fresh, I wonder if connections might be kicking themselves for not waiting until Tuesday week as this horse is still improving. Theres still a bit of 40-1 knocking about for the Kings Stand and he loves the track and was 4th last year. Ive always felt if he was going to win a big one it would be at Ascot. I backed Prohibit two years ago at a similar price on the back of performances in Dubai and Haydock and im wondering if lightning could strike twice as there looks to be a guaranteed fast pace on if the front runners stand their ground. Thoughts anyone?
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