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4/1 corals now
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what you mean Elis?
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read your last post, slight mistake, im sure youll spot it
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July cup run at Newmarket SINTONIAN.
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Of course. Sorry. Getting mixed up with the Haydock Sprint!
Anyway, i've had a saver on Excel incase they do run and there is cut in the ground. 13/2 fair risk. |
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Have also played Excelebration though also share sint's concerns over the effect of chasing Frankel at Ascot.
If he turns up at runs his race, think he has the beating of all of these and don't think he necessarily needs soft ground though of course it will detract from BB. Excelebration is a proper Group 1 horse and indications that he is likely to run means like others say, 13/2 is a fair risk/reward option considering the likely SP if he starts. |
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tinkler, what makes you think Hoof It has a back problem? A rather strange assumption?
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Roo, my point about the gorund is that it will make the race more of a stamina test. A 6f on GF and I probably wouldn't back him.
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I see your point now about the stamina. You probably already have the winner if it is GF, but at the respective odds I would still play Excelebration.
If there is some juice in the ground and she comes over, I would also give Wizz Kid another chance. So tempted by the 16s but I would want to have more assurance that she is likely to run. Anyone heard anything? |
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Couldn't have her at any price tbh Roo. She only travelled over on the day of the Kings Stand becuase she doesn't like staying overnight elsehwere and wont eat up. Seems a poor traveller.
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Would be amazed if it is GF. Currenty GS,S with more rain throughout the week. Think I may top up on Excel!
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Thanks for that sint, didn't know.
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Thats not to say she wont come over. I just couldn't back her (again)
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Fant light - Watching his 2 runs this year it looked to me like he was struggling with a transmission
problem in his back. |
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Excelebration I'd prefer to have an interest in over 7F.
Ortensia on strict form with Black Caviar should be there or thereabouts at a good enough each way price, and one I have a soft spot for is Angels Will Fall. A stiff 6 might be what she needs, not bad form with a lot of decent types and on a going day might be up there at a price. |
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Going could b very soft lookin at fcast
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BB wouldn't run if it was. Can see plenty of non-runners if the forecast is right.
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Excelebration well backed this a.m
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Excelebration taken out.
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Aye.
 Aidan clearly not thinking on our wave length! Shame.Dandy Boy & Strong Suit supplemented. Power is in aswell. |
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**** me, obrien said that excel and reply were considered for july cup, no mention of power, in r post sat
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FFS
Note to self, never back an AOB horse AP |
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Bated Breath (GB) 5 9 5
Dandy Boy (ITY) 6 9 5 Elnawin (GB) 6 9 5 Genki (IRE) 8 9 5 Hawkeyethenoo (IRE) 6 9 5 Hitchens (IRE) 7 9 5 Hoof It (GB) 5 9 5 Krypton Factor (GB) 4 9 5 Libranno (GB) 4 9 5 Mayson (GB) 4 9 5 Sepoy (AUS) 4 9 5 Sirius Prospect (USA) 4 9 5 Society Rock (IRE) 5 9 5 Soul (AUS) 5 9 5 Strong Suit (USA) 4 9 5 The Cheka (IRE) 6 9 5 Ortensia (AUS) 7 9 2 Power (GB) 3 8 13 Reply (IRE) 3 8 13 After (IRE) 3 8 10 Fire Lily (IRE) 3 8 10  |
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I backed Exceebration on the strength of what AOB said on Saturday. Someone is takng the p@ss. Two days later it's out and Power is in. I had my doubts with Ladbrokes being by far the biggest price catching all those fools, me included, who believed what the bookies friend, the Racing Post, writes.
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What of Power then? Dream Ahead came from the St.James last year to win this!
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Laddies knew wen they went a massive standout 8s!
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AIDEN O'BRIEN as trustworthy as all politicians, utter krap.
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What did AOB say in saturdays paper then?
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racing post saturday, aiden obrien said last night, " were looking at running excelebration and reply in the july cup. theyre both possibilities at this stage. decisions will be made early next week " why not say power as well, ****ing hate them, sorry
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In fairness he said they were possibles. This does usually mean they run, as he never says much more than that, but it is far from conclusive.
I backed Excel as a saver so done my dough but it's was a risk I thought worth taking. |
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yes sint he did say they were possibilities, but surely he could have said that power was as well
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Wizz Kid out aswell.
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Maybe Power will come out at the 48hr stage? Who knows, they have a habit of leaving big names in at the 5 day stage. That said, it could be a ground issue with him aswell for stamina purposes.
Im done with the race now. Think I have done my money on BB because the ground is against him and Excel out.  |
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spitting mick has been trying to convince everyone that hoof it needs good ground,but was withdrawn twice early last season due to good, good to firm ground then sluiced up on sofetr ground at york,after his gentle pipe opener at newmarket might be worth a dabble on hoped for softer ground
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With no Excelebration and Moonlight Cloud plus ground conditions possibly going against Bated Breath and Strong Suit ,the race may not take that much winning. Dandy Boy probably put up the best time effort
of any 6f horse in europe when winning at Ascot, this on the back of a very quick effort at the Curragh. Connections have supplemented him so he'll no doubt run no matter what, I doubt he'd want it too soft but at 20/1 thats well catered for and backed him. |
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Sirius Prospect put up much improved showing in Diamond Jubilee and will handle/relish the likely conditions.Scope for improvement also and each of these races seems to pan out differently.
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This looks to be a wide open race in my opinion, i really dont like the way the o brien team work in terms of running a number of horses in one race, they seem to sacrifice decent horses to benefit another and them declaring horses in races is a joke, in the past they have said top class stayers are quick enough to win the july cup and some even had entries, what for other than breeding propoganda, that can be the only reason.
Still in the July cup they have not left Power in for nothing and as a group one winner who stays further and goes on the projected ground they may have got this one in under the radar with all the fuss over frankels wipping boy being entered initially, the stiff finish and the ground will suit this down to the ground |
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POWER was supplemented I think.
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Was he really a supplementary, Bazzar? Wow, that puts a completley differemt spin on it.
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I thought just Storng Suit & Dandy Boy were supped.
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