EXCELEBRATION 6/4 w/o Frankel=FREE MONEY!

Have had this bet in the past but would be worried about SS this time. He is a very good horse.

SYT wont run so no idea why he is a 3/1 chance.

The ground will decide a lot here, if they deem it too soft they wont run Strong Suit, as they didn't take the chance at Newbury.

I like SS as well,backed him at Goodwood and Newmarket last year,but 1st time up,over a trip possibly a furlong to long to be seen at his best and up against a horse in Excelebration,with far superior form,he would have to have improved an aweful lot to be able to put it upto Excelebration,there is no way i can see it,its an outstanding bet

I agree the price stands out a lot. Just wary of going to the well once too often. Gl.

Who is it with Expert?

Those who back this bet are sir and cheers sint,plenty of water left in this well yet

Bt 365

Thanks very much BJG. Still available and STONKING value.

sorry liberator,miss read your post but big answered anyway

FAME AND GLORY in the gold cup at 13/8 is also FREE MONEY,will go off evens or shorter,exactly the same story as last year,he will bolt up

Like a shortie dontcha?

Evening Headmaster. Did you see Jennifer J earlier today? Useful animal. Anything interesting you fancy at Ascot for a lazy form student like me?

You seem to always want to pick a fight with me Headmaster,grow up and i like a winner,dont care what price they are,i bet in large sums,so a 6/4 and 13/8 winner i would have all day long

On the face of it really good value and wouldn't be worried about SS at all on ground that is likely not be quick enough for him to show his best.

However the only thing that is slightly off-putting is the POW entry - why?

Ballydoyle always enter there horses in everything,i would not be worried about the POW entry,

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Game bets

Spain to win to nil 10/11
Torres to score 13/8
Spain to keep a clean sheet at 8/11
Spain to be leading at HT 8/11
Spain HT FT 5/6

just deposited even more funds to my massive balance we are going to clean up tonight boys

all 5 of the above bets will be paying outyou have the experts word on that

Get on!!! or Get out!!!!



There you go headmaster,here is another 5 of what you call 'shorties' that i posted earlier today,but all 5 bets won and i'm more than happy to get paid out on all 5 of them sir,
As i said,its all about making money

Yep, like I said...you sure loves a shortie dontcha?!?

absolutely sir

To be fair I take my hat off.  Whenever I fancy a short-one it's a recipe for disaster!

Have learnt I'm far more capable of paying the bills with a wild one...

Evening LOTO - no old chap, you've lost me!  Has something slipped under the radar?!?

The price looks like a rick to me. Chance of SYT running in this and not the POW are probably minimal
and the chance of Excelebration running in the POW is probably negligable 0.001 % ( AOB secretary clerical error). Strong suit looks a specialist 7f horse to me ,1m with cut in the ground and pacemaker(s)
could well expose his stamina problems.
Excelebration has looked good as ever this year and Joseph O'brien shrewdly gave him a relatively easy time
at Newbury. The rest of the opposition look out classed. The only slight doubt is that jockeys who have
ridden him in the past have said he's not entirely comfortable on soft ground. Taking all this into account I'd estimate his true price to be 4/7 and have thus backed it at 6/4.

Yeah, 6/4 looks wrong without SYT.

Does that Frankie booking on Worthadd signal an intent to run though?  In the same market I think I'd also, maybe rather, play him at 7/1 e/w.

Ground no isse for Excel as far as I can see. It was positively sloppy when he won in France. It was pretty soft when he won in Germany aswell.

True sint.  His ex-trainer insisted he wanted it on top but the form book doesn't back that up.

I would agree that he HANDLES softer ground but if you look at his RPR's his best form is on better ground. He was very mch entitled to win the two races last year and if you watch the French race it was very workmanlike.

Saying all that I agree he is a virtual certainty for second place but I also expect to see Frankel beat him by further than he has done before so the winning margin bets looks appealing.

Does look a good (or at least overpirced) bet - I'm on.

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Today we expect a France win,but evens is a little short,so we will be backing

FRANCE to keep a clean sheet 8/5
FRANCE to win to nil 11/5




Theres another 2 shorties in the bag for you Headmaster

HRE..Why on gods earth did you bet on Spain to keep a clean sheet at 8/11
when you could bet on Spain to win to nil at 10/11?
are you a mentalist?..oh yes the possiblity of 0-0..silly me!

none of the aBOVE POINTS HAVE ANSWERED MY ORIGINAL QUESTION

and the question is?

How many of you are goood @ mind reading ?

nothing to do with mind reading,it was blindingly obvious to all and a few stable contacts are also good to have

Whats that got to do with Howdis question ?

Frankel faces ten rivals in the Queen Anne Stakes at Royal Ascot on Tuesday, with Aidan O'Brien relying on Excelebration to lead his party.

So You Think was also in the frame for the Ballydoyle team but as expected he waits for Wednesday's Prince Of Wales's Stakes.

Sir Henry Cecil again runs Bullet Train as a pacemaker with O'Brien fielding Windsor Palace in the same role.

Strong Suit represents Richard Hannon and Richard Hughes while Frankie Dettori rides Worthadd for Sir Mark Prescott.

Epsom winner Side Glance, German raider Indomito, Premio Loco, Red Jazz and Helmet complete the field.

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Whats that got to do with Howdis question ?


can i ask again what his question was then? as he did not ask a question on this thread and i am not a mind reader

Queen Anne

No.     Form    Horse    Age    Wt    Trainer    Jockey    OR    NagMe
1 (6)     655/78-4    Bullet Train 31      5     9-0    Sir H R A Cecil    I Mongan     111   
2 (3)     3112-12    Excelebration (IRE) 31      4     9-0    A P O'Brien    J P O'Brien     126   
3 (8)     11111-1    Frankel 31      4     9-0    Sir H R A Cecil    T P Queally     138   
4 (10)     17375-2    Indomito (GER) 65    6     9-0    Andreas Wohler    William Buick   
5 (11)     5127-11    Premio Loco (USA) 35      8     9-0    C F Wall    G Baker     113   
6 (4)     542-314    Red Jazz (USA) 17        5     9-0    C Hills    M Hills     112   
7 (5)     147-531    Side Glance 18      5     9-0    A M Balding    J Fortune     113   
8 (1)     613110-    Strong Suit (USA) 227      4     9-0    R Hannon    R Hughes     123   
9 (7)     55-0316    Windsor Palace (IRE) 31      7     9-0 v    A P O'Brien    J A Heffernan     104   
10 (2)     2195-14    Worthadd (IRE) 18        5     9-0    Sir Mark Prescott    L Dettori     118   
11 (9)     118-500    Helmet (AUS) 80      4     8-13 pt    M Al Zarooni    M Barzalona     119

Now even money without Frankel - the value has been landed

easy money


still think evens is amazing value tho

think he will go off around 4/6 ish

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Whats that got to do with Howdis question ?


can i ask again what his question was then? as he did not ask a question on this thread and i am not a mind reader



Hence my post @ 7:45

Fame and Glory now 11/10

the 13/8 a couple of days back was a gift,Opinion Poll should p1ss up in the w/o the favorite market as well

Having been sunk to the nuts on Valyra at all sorts of different prices, HRE, I'm contemplating an extremely big each-way bet on Memphis Ten as an encore.  Price is just wrong imo (assuming he's an intended).  I take it he's not for you?  Colour Vision no good either?!?

There is no way in this world,or the next,that FAME AND GLORY does not win this race,the absolute banker of the meeting for me and i would be extremely surprised if Opinion Poll is out of the 3,so i would say that you have just one place left,
I could not have Court Vision on my mind at all,but MT has the class to nick a place if he stays and if he is not used somewhat as a pacemaker of the champ.
Gl whatever you decide sir

Why don't you like Colour Vision?  Formbook says he's got a right chance imo.

The Headmaster     18 Jun 12 10:24 
Having been sunk to the nuts on Valyra at all sorts of different prices, HRE, I'm contemplating an extremely big each-way bet on Memphis Ten as an encore.  Price is just wrong imo (assuming he's an intended).  I take it he's not for you?  Colour Vision no good either?!?


I have had a massive shout from MT 2 weeks ago from some1 close t the stable, was the one they put up wen asked about Ascot. Hardwicke likely destination tho although GC was nt ruled out at the time! Heard nothin since

Has loads to find on the front 2 i think,was beaten by both F&G and OP on champions day recieving 11 lbs from both of them,i know he was a 3yo and getting the allowences,but the front 2 in the market have a 9 lb turn around in the weights this week and i cant see him having improved anywhere near what will be needed to turn that form around,i like MT out of your 2,he could be very competitive with OP if staying

MT will only run in the Gold Cup if something happens to F&G,the target is saturday

Only way F&G is beaten is if they make it a thorough test of stamina as the horse still has the speed for 12f. But he is very classy and it'll take a good one to beat him.imo

I nearly backed him ante-post at 3/1 4 weeks ago but bottled it but still hope he wins for TTF purposes. His price does seem short given the proximity of Opinion Poll last year, however.

I dont think that will even get him beat sint,i think he stays forever and won easily last year,OP was well beaten,OP looks to have improved since then,but F&G will be much better also,it will be just as easy as last year,if not easier

Had the 3/1 antepost in lots of double and treble bets also,but Sizing Europe and Hurricane Fly ended them

That's just weight-for-age, HRE.  If Colour Vision has made 'normal' improvement from 3 to 4, and the evidence suggests he's made, at the very least, 'normal' improvement, that weight turn around means nothing.  To say he's got loads to find on the front two is pretty unfathomable imo.

I'm clearly sticking my neck out, as **** seems to have one or two fans who find the idea of defeat unthinkable, but he ain't no even money chance to me.  OP got a cr@p ride from the boy wonder last year and the October run leaves **** with little in hand of either OP or, perhaps more interestingly, CV.  Add in Saddlers and possibly MT, although Hardwicke sounds like the go there, and I think he's got plenty on his plate myself.

**** = ****.

Oh FFS!

**** = Fame And Glory

Easy money

very easy,even given the poor ride by joey,would have been 4 or 5 lengths clear of the 3rd if he had been ridden ignoring Frankel,which he should have been

Would have finished closer to Frankel if held up but don't blame them for trying something different

Agreed. I'd applaud them for having a proper crack at him. Excel easily the 2nd best horse in the race. Ignore the distances between him and the 3rd,4th.

Hope you switched off the fav, HRE

No chance,i was on big time did not even get my OP w/o the fav bet landed

well done on CV for you sir

Cheers old boy - I'm sure any losses today will be regained tonight in Warsaw

well some of them anyway,after all 4 my quarter final bets have come in,then i will have my money back

well done HM. You should join the Flat TUrf thread.

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Cheers old boy - I'm sure any losses today will be regained tonight in Warsaw 



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PORTUGAL................................................FREE MONEY.........................................................!

My fans should start smashing into every single bit of this 4/5 that is out there,Ronaldo's boys have been improving game by game and they are ready to put up another top drawer performance and crush the Czech also rans

Thank you for your support as always and enjoy your profits

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We are adding RONALDO to score at 21/20 to tonights bets



another correct call from the headmaster

Good shout HRE