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Have had this bet in the past but would be worried about SS this time. He is a very good horse.
SYT wont run so no idea why he is a 3/1 chance. The ground will decide a lot here, if they deem it too soft they wont run Strong Suit, as they didn't take the chance at Newbury. |
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I like SS as well,backed him at Goodwood and Newmarket last year,but 1st time up,over a trip possibly a furlong to long to be seen at his best and up against a horse in Excelebration,with far superior form,he would have to have improved an aweful lot to be able to put it upto Excelebration,there is no way i can see it,its an outstanding bet
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I agree the price stands out a lot. Just wary of going to the well once too often. Gl.
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Who is it with Expert?
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Those who back this bet are sir
and cheers sint,plenty of water left in this well yet |
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Bt 365
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Thanks very much BJG. Still available and STONKING value.
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sorry liberator,miss read your post
but big answered anyway |
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FAME AND GLORY in the gold cup at 13/8 is also FREE MONEY,will go off evens or shorter,exactly the same story as last year,he will bolt up
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Like a shortie dontcha?
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Evening Headmaster. Did you see Jennifer J earlier today? Useful animal. Anything interesting you fancy at Ascot for a lazy form student like me?
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You seem to always want to pick a fight with me Headmaster,grow up and i like a winner,dont care what price they are,i bet in large sums,so a 6/4 and 13/8 winner i would have all day long
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On the face of it really good value and wouldn't be worried about SS at all on ground that is likely not be quick enough for him to show his best.
However the only thing that is slightly off-putting is the POW entry - why? |
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Ballydoyle always enter there horses in everything,i would not be worried about the POW entry,
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SPAIN is 100% totally BUYING MONEY!!!! HorseRacingExpert
Date Joined: 20 May 12 Add contact | Send message 14 Jun 12 11:51 Joined: Date Joined: 20 May 12 | Topic/replies: 821 | Blogger: HorseRacingExpert's blog Joined: Date Joined: 20 May 12 | Topic/replies: 821 | Blogger: HorseRacingExpert's blog Game bets Spain to win to nil 10/11 Torres to score 13/8 Spain to keep a clean sheet at 8/11 Spain to be leading at HT 8/11 Spain HT FT 5/6 just deposited even more funds to my massive balance we are going to clean up tonight boys all 5 of the above bets will be paying outyou have the experts word on that Get on!!! or Get out!!!! There you go headmaster,here is another 5 of what you call 'shorties' that i posted earlier today,but all 5 bets won and i'm more than happy to get paid out on all 5 of them sir, As i said,its all about making money |
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Yep, like I said...you sure loves a shortie dontcha?!?
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absolutely sir
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To be fair I take my hat off. Whenever I fancy a short-one it's a recipe for disaster!
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Evening LOTO - no old chap, you've lost me! Has something slipped under the radar?!?
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The price looks like a rick to me. Chance of SYT running in this and not the POW are probably minimal
and the chance of Excelebration running in the POW is probably negligable 0.001 % ( AOB secretary clerical error). Strong suit looks a specialist 7f horse to me ,1m with cut in the ground and pacemaker(s) could well expose his stamina problems. Excelebration has looked good as ever this year and Joseph O'brien shrewdly gave him a relatively easy time at Newbury. The rest of the opposition look out classed. The only slight doubt is that jockeys who have ridden him in the past have said he's not entirely comfortable on soft ground. Taking all this into account I'd estimate his true price to be 4/7 and have thus backed it at 6/4. |
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Yeah, 6/4 looks wrong without SYT.
Does that Frankie booking on Worthadd signal an intent to run though? In the same market I think I'd also, maybe rather, play him at 7/1 e/w. |
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Ground no isse for Excel as far as I can see. It was positively sloppy when he won in France. It was pretty soft when he won in Germany aswell.
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True sint. His ex-trainer insisted he wanted it on top but the form book doesn't back that up.
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I would agree that he HANDLES softer ground but if you look at his RPR's his best form is on better ground. He was very mch entitled to win the two races last year and if you watch the French race it was very workmanlike.
Saying all that I agree he is a virtual certainty for second place but I also expect to see Frankel beat him by further than he has done before so the winning margin bets looks appealing. |
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Does look a good (or at least overpirced) bet - I'm on.
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£$£$*Fridays EURO 2012 Selections*£$£$ HorseRacingExpert
Date Joined: 20 May 12 Add contact | Send message 15 Jun 12 11:45 Joined: Date Joined: 20 May 12 | Topic/replies: 861 | Blogger: HorseRacingExpert's blog Today we expect a France win,but evens is a little short,so we will be backing FRANCE to keep a clean sheet 8/5 FRANCE to win to nil 11/5 Theres another 2 shorties in the bag for you Headmaster ![]() ![]() |
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HRE..Why on gods earth did you bet on Spain to keep a clean sheet at 8/11
when you could bet on Spain to win to nil at 10/11? are you a mentalist? ..oh yes the possiblity of 0-0..silly me!![]() |
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none of the aBOVE POINTS HAVE ANSWERED MY ORIGINAL QUESTION
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and the question is?
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How many of you are goood @ mind reading ?
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nothing to do with mind reading,it was blindingly obvious to all and a few stable contacts are also good to have
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Whats that got to do with Howdis question ?
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Frankel faces ten rivals in the Queen Anne Stakes at Royal Ascot on Tuesday, with Aidan O'Brien relying on Excelebration to lead his party.
So You Think was also in the frame for the Ballydoyle team but as expected he waits for Wednesday's Prince Of Wales's Stakes. Sir Henry Cecil again runs Bullet Train as a pacemaker with O'Brien fielding Windsor Palace in the same role. Strong Suit represents Richard Hannon and Richard Hughes while Frankie Dettori rides Worthadd for Sir Mark Prescott. Epsom winner Side Glance, German raider Indomito, Premio Loco, Red Jazz and Helmet complete the field. |
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By: This user is online. geoff m
Date Joined: 23 Feb 03 Add contact | Send message When: 17 Jun 12 11:44 Joined: Date Joined: 23 Feb 03 | Topic/replies: 3,951 | Blogger: geoff m's blog Whats that got to do with Howdis question ? can i ask again what his question was then? as he did not ask a question on this thread and i am not a mind reader |
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Queen Anne
No. Form Horse Age Wt Trainer Jockey OR NagMe 1 (6) 655/78-4 Bullet Train 31 5 9-0 Sir H R A Cecil I Mongan 111 2 (3) 3112-12 Excelebration (IRE) 31 4 9-0 A P O'Brien J P O'Brien 126 3 (8) 11111-1 Frankel 31 4 9-0 Sir H R A Cecil T P Queally 138 4 (10) 17375-2 Indomito (GER) 65 6 9-0 Andreas Wohler William Buick 5 (11) 5127-11 Premio Loco (USA) 35 8 9-0 C F Wall G Baker 113 6 (4) 542-314 Red Jazz (USA) 17 5 9-0 C Hills M Hills 112 7 (5) 147-531 Side Glance 18 5 9-0 A M Balding J Fortune 113 8 (1) 613110- Strong Suit (USA) 227 4 9-0 R Hannon R Hughes 123 9 (7) 55-0316 Windsor Palace (IRE) 31 7 9-0 v A P O'Brien J A Heffernan 104 10 (2) 2195-14 Worthadd (IRE) 18 5 9-0 Sir Mark Prescott L Dettori 118 11 (9) 118-500 Helmet (AUS) 80 4 8-13 pt M Al Zarooni M Barzalona 119 |
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Now even money without Frankel - the value has been landed
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easy moneystill think evens is amazing value tho |
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think he will go off around 4/6 ish
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Report • Quote HorseRacingExpert • June 17, 2012 12:04 PM BST
By: This user is online. geoff m Date Joined: 23 Feb 03 Add contact | Send message When: 17 Jun 12 11:44 Joined: Date Joined: 23 Feb 03 | Topic/replies: 3,951 | Blogger: geoff m's blog Whats that got to do with Howdis question ? can i ask again what his question was then? as he did not ask a question on this thread and i am not a mind reader Hence my post @ 7:45 |