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If heading to this race, i think will take all the beating took 6/1 after lto win when in front too soon and idled.
Open to more improvement,and not a great field imo.
Stable remains in decent form still, and given good ground must go very close at current price of 9/2.
Open to more improvement,and not a great field imo.
Stable remains in decent form still, and given good ground must go very close at current price of 9/2.
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was lucky to beat sole power last time,he will reverse placings
Bookmakers dont think so,all a game of opinions we will see Tuesday fortnight.
far better value with SP at the prices,good luck
can't believe they are taking sole power back there tbh, he's ran 2 pretty poor races on his previous visits
does he not want dead flat track?
does he not want dead flat track?
I like STONE OF FOLCA for this, won the dash in 53 seconds plus, if he can reproduce that form can be there or thereabouts...
40/1 decent each way for me.
40/1 decent each way for me.
TBH, I think if the Aussie horse Ortensia turns up in good form, it will be hard to beat. If they send Wizz Kid that would also not be without a chance.
There is a part of me that hopes that Bated Breath doesn't win. It really should run in the Diamond Jubilee and they are only tried 5F so to be able to avoid BC - hardly taking up a challenge is it?
There is a part of me that hopes that Bated Breath doesn't win. It really should run in the Diamond Jubilee and they are only tried 5F so to be able to avoid BC - hardly taking up a challenge is it?
BB not short of speed though Roo. Looks the most sensible target imo.
Agree Sint connections will go for race they think they can win.Saying that at prices Caviar maybe worth taking on?
But if everyone took Charlton's approach, BC would have a walkover. BC will have come across half the world to race here, incredibly sporting of their connections and if all our best horses duck the challenge, then the Aussies could rightfully call us spineless. If Frankel was to go to Oz to run in the Cox Plate for example, do you think their best horses wouldn't race?
At Ascot we will have two world superstar horses running, one on the first day and the other on the last. Unfortunately as spectacles they look like being an anti climax as Frankel is simply going to run against the same horses again and we are scared to take up the challenge of BC.
Don't get me wrong BB has a good chance in the Kings Stand and could well win. However they are looking to stand BB as a stallion and whilst I accept that winning a GP 1 is important in that respect, what would it do to his value if he were to beat BC?
At Ascot we will have two world superstar horses running, one on the first day and the other on the last. Unfortunately as spectacles they look like being an anti climax as Frankel is simply going to run against the same horses again and we are scared to take up the challenge of BC.
Don't get me wrong BB has a good chance in the Kings Stand and could well win. However they are looking to stand BB as a stallion and whilst I accept that winning a GP 1 is important in that respect, what would it do to his value if he were to beat BC?
No idea re the value.
But he has just won a Group 2 over 5f on officially Firm ground, so he clearly has plenty of speed. They did run him in the Nunthorpe last season aswell but the draw did for him that day.
Roger Charlton has described BB as the best sprinter he has had, so it is important he gets a Group 1 win and the Kings Stand looks the most suitable first target of the year. They could also take in both races at Ascot, it has been done before.
I think Roger saying they are going for the Kings Stand just so they can avoid BC is a bit of a red-herring tbh. The evidence says (his Haydock run) and trainers previous comments and attempt at 5f in the Nunthorpe, that BB will be suited to this race. The fact BC is around just allows connections to let people think otherwise. They are targetting the Kings Stand, imo.
But he has just won a Group 2 over 5f on officially Firm ground, so he clearly has plenty of speed. They did run him in the Nunthorpe last season aswell but the draw did for him that day.
Roger Charlton has described BB as the best sprinter he has had, so it is important he gets a Group 1 win and the Kings Stand looks the most suitable first target of the year. They could also take in both races at Ascot, it has been done before.
I think Roger saying they are going for the Kings Stand just so they can avoid BC is a bit of a red-herring tbh. The evidence says (his Haydock run) and trainers previous comments and attempt at 5f in the Nunthorpe, that BB will be suited to this race. The fact BC is around just allows connections to let people think otherwise. They are targetting the Kings Stand, imo.
Maybe it is a red herring, personally think he is a better horse over 6.
That being said I was surprised he was able to lay up in that Haydock race and that enabled him to get first run when SP was short of room at the vital stage. Wouldn't see SP reversing places necessarily at Ascot, but I would at York.
Anyway if he is 5s on the day I may well back him and if he wins then naturally it would have been the right decision. However this has made me have a look at the race in more detail and think the 14s about Wizz Kid is good value
That being said I was surprised he was able to lay up in that Haydock race and that enabled him to get first run when SP was short of room at the vital stage. Wouldn't see SP reversing places necessarily at Ascot, but I would at York.
Anyway if he is 5s on the day I may well back him and if he wins then naturally it would have been the right decision. However this has made me have a look at the race in more detail and think the 14s about Wizz Kid is good value
Yeah I have not looked at the race in detail much in terms of betting. But I agree re the price of Wizz Kid at this stage as he beat BB in the Nunthorpe when drawn on the same side.
Has be been confirmed a runner?
Has be been confirmed a runner?
No that I have seen sint ( hence only a small interest )but would assume if he goes to Ascot then this would be the race. Not sure there is anything else on the French programme for him to go for?
Little Bridge has danced every dance in Hong Kong and is in the form of his life at the moment..breath taking 5furlong win a couple runs back backed up with an easy 6furlong win.
just as guide...same going same race diffent years...2005 Silent Witness then the best sprinter 9stone stopped the clock in 55.30. Little Bridge this year 9stone7 did it 55.98. That's quick. that's g1 time. No idea where this performance came from but he backed it up next time out so clearly no fluke...just a horse whose finally found his way.
will have a little snaffle of him on the day at a nice double figured price.
just as guide...same going same race diffent years...2005 Silent Witness then the best sprinter 9stone stopped the clock in 55.30. Little Bridge this year 9stone7 did it 55.98. That's quick. that's g1 time. No idea where this performance came from but he backed it up next time out so clearly no fluke...just a horse whose finally found his way.
will have a little snaffle of him on the day at a nice double figured price.
Hopefully Bated Breath takes his chance tomorrow,ground gone against him a little but same for others still think he will go very close.
As I haven't backed him, pleased Ascot got some rain last night but wished they had got the rain we did.
I have backed Wizz Kid with a saver on Margot and g/s will be perfect for those two. I suspect come race time it will be virtually good, time will tell if it is quick enough for BB
I have backed Wizz Kid with a saver on Margot and g/s will be perfect for those two. I suspect come race time it will be virtually good, time will tell if it is quick enough for BB
more rain due on thursday and friday, the ground isn't going to be quick by saturday so they may as well take their chance tomorrow
Agreed. Over 5f with ease they have a better chance of ''getting away with it'' than they do over 6f.
The race is not due off until 3.05 so there is a chance it will have dried some more by then. Taken 11/2. gl.
The race is not due off until 3.05 so there is a chance it will have dried some more by then. Taken 11/2. gl.
Landed a really good touch on Prohibit in this race last year, backed Wizz Kid at 14s after Chantilly. Think it has come right for her so very hopeful. Gd luck all.
Masamah at fancy prices .. don't ask me why. Time of the year.
Amour Propre got a lot going for him conditions wise at big price.
The runner up to Wizz Kid lto, is a huge price55s and 12s had win and place, as back up to BB.
Stepper Point was name of horse who was 2nd to Wizz Kid.Must admit never heard of it before last run, not too much to find with French horse, 3yos decent record, good draw maybe.Certainly over-priced on last run and could still be improving, also ground will be fine
I can see what loto is saying and had some on masamah to place at 15s
ELG - Little Bridge was fav for CX sprint in Dec, it hasn't come from nowhere, he'll like the ground, must have a good chance.
Only paid 7.4 on HKJC 
- but I had the quinella too so not too bad
- but I had the quinella too so not too bad
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