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bazzar
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Has rain fallen there?
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Report Walter Grout • April 26, 2012 8:53 AM BST
Take a guess.
Report BJG • April 26, 2012 9:50 AM BST
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GOING UPDATE-Jump track good-soft, soft in places. Flat course heavy. Going has eased after the morning rain

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The worst of the rain has now passed through Esher @Sandownpark




That was the update yesterday evening but that cannot be right surely imo Plain
Report zilzal1 • April 26, 2012 10:10 AM BST
To put it in a historical context the softest reading i can find for Sandown in the last 4 years is around the 5.8 mark, its given this morning at 4.9, if we get more rain id say the meeting could be in doubt

if this reading is accurate its desperate ground there
Report turnip turns • April 26, 2012 10:24 AM BST
zil,is that the flat course reading though ?
Report zilzal1 • April 26, 2012 10:29 AM BST
They are not saying which course it is TT, however when you get this much rain there imo cannot be that much of a disparity


if you check turftrax's going stick history for sandown this is the lowest reading for any part of the course, flat or NH
Report turnip turns • April 26, 2012 10:36 AM BST
GOING: HEAVY (GoingStick 5.2). (Showers)


GOING: Chase course - GOOD TO SOFT (Soft in places); Hurdle course - SOFT (Good to soft in places); Flat course - HEAVY. (Showers)
Crazy
Report zilzal1 • April 26, 2012 10:39 AM BST
Id like to know where these G/S PLACES are in, i suspect its the barConfused
Report turnip turns • April 26, 2012 10:41 AM BST
I agree,tweeted Sandown a couple of times about the ground yesterday,like getting blood out of a stone,told them its poor stuff from a grade 1 trackAngry
Report bazzar • April 26, 2012 1:02 PM BST
Thank you all.
Report turnip turns • April 26, 2012 2:23 PM BST
Sandown confident popular weekend jumps and Flat fixture will go ahead
• Clerk of course says going softest for over 10 years
• Ripon and Wetherby latest cards to come under threat
S



Will Hayler
guardian.co.uk, Thursday 26 April 2012 14.01 BST
Article history

Sandown are confident they will stage their two-day Flat and jumps fixture but the ground will be very testing.
Sandown's important two-day fixture, which starts on Friday, is certain to be staged in very soft going, but clerk of the course Andrew Cooper believes the meeting is unlikely to join others in falling to the wet weather.

Thursday's cards at Uttoxeter and Beverley have both been abandoned due to waterlogging, while Leicester's card on Saturday has also already fallen by the wayside.

But Sandown's cards, which sees the Bet365 Gold Cup highlighting a mixed card of jumps and Flat racing on the final day of the National Hunt season on Saturday, are set to beat the weather despite an inch of rain falling in the last 24 hours.

"It will be soft, soft ground but as things stand we're not expecting any problems," said clerk of the course Andrew Cooper, who has changed the going on the Flat course to heavy.

"We have had a couple more showers today but they've been fairly light. You can't ever be too certain when you have such an unsettled forecast, but I believe we'll go ahead as scheduled. A lot of the Flat course – the back straight, the bend into the home turn and the sprint course – has not been raced on since the end of last season, and although the hurdle course shares the home straight with the Flat track, we rail off some of the turf from the Tingle Creek meeting onwards to keep a fresh strip back."

Cooper said that the task of keeping as much fresh turf back for this meeting was helped by the fact that the 10 Flat races scheduled for the two days take place over no further than a mile and a quarter.

"That means that the downhill section of the course, where the ground is usually at its softest, isn't used in any Flat race," he said.

"Although it will be very soft and we're being upfront about that, I think it will be less testing than if the ground was very sticky. Horses tend to go through genuinely wet ground better."

Conditions on the jump courses are quicker with the going described as good to soft, soft in places on the chase course and soft, good to soft in places on the hurdles track.

"At this stage of the season, we're usually watering to keep things on the right side of good to firm and this is the softest I can remember since Beau won what was then the Whitbread Gold Cup by a distance in 2000," said Cooper.

"It isn't as soft on the jump courses, as the goingstick readings confirm. Both the hurdles and chase courses were in pretty good condition before the rain as the weather in the winter wasn't as bad as it can be."

Also reporting heavy ground is Chepstow, where 24mm of rain in the last 24 hours has been registered, and Plumpton who have received a similar amount. But there are no inspections planned so far at either track ahead of Friday's racing.

But with Thursday's rain forecast to be heavier in the north of England, Ripon will inspect at 11.30am on Friday morning ahead of Saturday's card.

"We'd just about be all right to race today, but the forecast for the next 24 hours is awful," said Jonjo Sanderson, clerk of the course at Wetherby, due to race on Sunday.

"The problem is that a huge amount of rain is falling after a long dry spell and the ground is not soaking up the moisture as it would normally do.

"There is an internal **** flowing through the course and if we get the sort of amounts of rain some of the forecasts are suggesting tonight, that would burst and then we'd be in trouble."
Report The Headmaster • April 26, 2012 2:33 PM BST
"an internal **** flowing through the course" ConfusedGrinConfused
Report turnip turns • April 26, 2012 2:36 PM BST
**** van ....Mischief
Report zilzal1 • April 26, 2012 2:36 PM BST
I cant get over the fact that the unused flat course can be that different to the opened up hurdles and chase coursesConfused
Report turnip turns • April 26, 2012 2:39 PM BST
I know Zil,very oddCrazy
Report turnip turns • April 26, 2012 7:05 PM BST
SANDOWN PARK - Mixed (Updated:26/04/2012 at 16:03:59)   
Going
Chase - Soft, Good to Soft in places
Hurdle - Soft, Good to Soft in places
Flat - Heavy
(GoingStick: Flat 4.9 Chase 6.2 Hurdle 5.3 on Thursday at 15:00)
Report zilzal1 • April 26, 2012 7:07 PM BST
gonna be bottomless, its Tidal Bay timrLaugh
Report turnip turns • April 26, 2012 7:08 PM BST
Good luck with that ZilLaugh WER for meMischief
Report zilzal1 • April 26, 2012 7:20 PM BST
Taken the 10-1 TTLaugh this is the 1st time since he chased IC home at Haydock 18 months ago that he's had this kind of groundCool
Report turnip turns • April 26, 2012 7:39 PM BST
Laugh
Report zilzal1 • April 26, 2012 7:42 PM BST
Come the hour TT, Come the hourMischief
Report buddeliea • April 26, 2012 7:49 PM BST
come on TT,you know it makes sense.
Wink
Report BJG • April 26, 2012 7:52 PM BST
Nice to have a proven battler on side wen it turns into a slog BlushShockedSillyDevil
Report zilzal1 • April 26, 2012 7:55 PM BST
Rearrange the following words

Come Bridle wont the offMischiefCool
Report turnip turns • April 26, 2012 7:59 PM BST
Budd,it makes no senseLaugh good luck though,hope ya get beat a nose by WERMischief
Report buddeliea • April 26, 2012 8:01 PM BST
Laugh

Actually i will have a small wager if the price suits,but i quiet like Rare Bob,think he may be my main bet,although the likely ground will stop me going too mad.
Report turnip turns • April 26, 2012 8:14 PM BST
had a bit on rare bob in the national tbhSad could be tempted againDevil
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