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14 Apr 12
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Can Camelot beat the wonderful little filly?
(Before you all start, that question is loaded with irony).
(Before you all start, that question is loaded with irony).
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Ooops.
Getting my years mixed up. It's all this bleddy talk about the Titanic and the Olympics. Maybe BF can edit the post's title for me? |
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Incidentally, th ereason I put this thread here was that the market is up.
7th October is the race date. Market Suspensions: 9th May - Initial Entry Stage 2nd & 3rd October - Forfeit Stages 4th October - Supplementary Stage |
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Well, it didn't take long. Camelot has been bet at 6/1 and 8/1. Last year's superb winner is
16/1. Some people think an awful lot of this horse, don't they? Another superhorse so soon after Frankel? I'll reserve judgement, but, in my opinion, there's not a lot to go on yet. |
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Of £1600 matched, £500 is on Camelot at prices between 6/1 and 11/1.
Is he really that good? He's going to win the 2000gns next week, and the Arc in October? |
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I think Frankel's a better bet at 20/1
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There are just an awful lot of muggs out there,Pete. Be thankful.
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Thanks sint. I thought I'd be talking to myself till October!
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I love the Arc so I'll keep this thread alive on my own.
Here are some horses still in training that aren't on the Betfair list yet: Nathaniel Cirrus des Aigles Shareta Memphis Tennessee So You Think Testosterone Treasure Beach Carlton House |
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It's just a bit early to be discussing the Arc, Pete.
 I dont have a clue about what might win at this stage .. |
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cirrus is a gelding pete
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cirrus is a gelding pete
I KNEW there was a reason for him not being in last year... but I couldn't remember what it was! |
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(Bet he remembers every day)
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Evening Pete
Am I right in thinkikng you were laying me Crackerjack King last year? Gutless mob didn't supp in the end which was, imo, a terrible mistake. Keep him on your side this year though, eh?  |
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Thanks HM. Will do. Was that the one you backed at 1000?
Going back to geldings, isn't it a shame that they have to miss the best G1 races? If you look at Royal Ascot this year, the Gold Cup will be one of the most popular markets with its 6yos etc. (I know most of them are entires). Cheltenham ante-post markets dwarf most flat races. The public love horses that stay in training for 3 or more years. Why shouldn't a gelding lift the top prize if he's good enough? His retirement is shorter and a lot less fun. |
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Most of these top races are framed around the breeding industry,
sort of detracts from the breed if a gelding beats them. |
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sort of detracts from the breed if a gelding beats them
Why? |
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It's like you Pete, it has no sphericals.
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I really like Baraan. its a longshot i know.
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Geldings are allowed in the Ascot Gold Cup now,
after centuries of being barred, the trend may extend to all Group 1 races in time. |
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How impressive was Kesampour today?
I know he won and he was odds-on, but there doesn't seem to have been a significant move for him in the Arc betting. |
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Not very. Looked like he was going to get beat but battled back to get up on the line. Needs to improve.
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Thanks Sint.
PS - Pete The Bloke...you won't be alone in bumping this thread as I find the Arc the most fascinating ante-post market of the year. I want to lay the arse off anything that goes single figures (with an awful lot to prove) as Carlton House did after the Dante last year. Funnily enough...he's the kind of horse I want on my side this season but I'll be looking for three figure odds! |
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Just wondering if you think Frankel will make it to Lonchamp ? Is 12 furlongs too far for him ?
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I certainly wouldn't want to lay Frankel at a tasty price as Cecil seems convinced 10f will not be a problem.
If he's finishing off well in the Juddmonte, 12f and a crack at the Arc may well be considered, and I certainly wouldn't want to be holding that hot potato! I laid the balls off Frankel in last year's Arc as I was 99% certain it wouldn't even be on his agenda - this season it seems connections are more undecided at the moment. As I see it...if Cecil's managed to get Frankel more settled than he's ever been (which didn't look the case in that gallop yesterday) and he knows 10f will not be a problem, then the Arc has to be on the menu, as for me, it's the most prestigious race in the world. |
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Wouldn't it be great if Frankel was headed this direction. I'm dubious, but I'd love to see it.
I thought he was such an exciting horse to watch last year. |
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They are starting him off in the Lockinge over 1 mile before going upto to 10f. I'd be surprised if we see him in the Arc.
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Me too, Sint. I'd be amazed, but I still think they should do it.
I live in hope of seeing a triple crown winner too, but that probably won't happen in my lifetime. |
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Oh, I did see Oh So Sharp... but you knew what I meant.
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Entries, sorted by yard:
furner's green ire m.ps. 3 a. D.SMITH/MME J.MAGNIER/M.TABOR AP. O'BRIEN ERNEST HEMINGWAY IRE M.PS. 3 a. MME MAGNIER/M.TABOR/D.SMITH AP. O'BRIEN imperial monarch ire m.ps. 3 a. MME MAGNIER/M.TABOR/D.SMITH AP. O'BRIEN wrote ire m.ps. 3 a. MME MAGNIER/M.TABOR/D.SMITH AP. O'BRIEN kissed ire f.ps. 3 a. D.SMITH/MME J.MAGNIER/M.TABOR AP. O'BRIEN twirl ire f.ps. 3 a. D.SMITH/MME J.MAGNIER/M.TABOR AP. O'BRIEN maybe ire f.ps. 3 a. M.TABOR/D.SMITH/MME J.MAGNIER AP. O'BRIEN wading ire f.ps. 3 a. MME MAGNIER/M.TABOR/D.SMITH AP. O'BRIEN BAYAN IRE M.PS. 3 a. IRAJ PARVIZI BJ. MEEHAN YAZDI IRE M.PS. 3 a. IRAJ PARVIZI BJ. MEEHAN solemia (ire) f.ps. 4 a. WERTHEIMER & FRERE C. LAFFON-PARIAS nutello usa m.ps. 3 a. WERTHEIMER & FRERE C. LAFFON-PARIAS DREAM TUNE GB M.PS. 3 a. CHEIK SULTAN B.K. B.Z. AL NAHYA CG. COX SAPPHIRE IRE F.PS. 4 a. MOYGLARE STUD FARM LTD DK. WELD valdo bere m.ps. 3 a. LUIGI ROVEDA E. LEENDERS prairie star m.ps. 4 a. ECURIE WILDENSTEIN E. LELLOUCHE AMARCORD M.PS. 3 a. FREDERIC BIANCO E. LELLOUCHE beauty parlour (gb) f.ps. 3 a. ECURIE WILDENSTEIN E. LELLOUCHE snow fairy ire f.ps. 5 a. ANAMOINE LIMITED EAL. DUNLOP testosterone (ire) f.ps. 4 a. NURLAN BIZAKOV EAL. DUNLOP galikova f.ps. 4 a. WERTHEIMER & FRERE F. HEAD (S) PROPULSION (IRE) M.PS. 3 a. WERTHEIMER & FRERE F. HEAD (S) sofast m.ps. 3 a. WERTHEIMER & FRERE F. HEAD (S) hard dream (ire) m.ps. 3 a. PANDORA STUD LLC F. ROHAUT (S) la peinture f.ps. 3 a. JEAN-CLAUDE SEROUL F. ROSSI beat black jpn m.ps. 5 a. KOJI MAEDA H. NAKAMURA masked marvel gb m.ps. 4 a. BJORN E. NIELSEN J. GOSDEN nathaniel ire m.ps. 4 a. LADY ROTHSCHILD J. GOSDEN sarah lynx ire f.ps. 5 a. MME ROBERT G. EHRNROOTH J. HAMMOND (S) atempo ger m.ps. 4 a. GESTUT SCHLENDERHAN J. HIRSCHBERGER AKEED MOFEED GB M.PS. 3 a. JABER ABDULLAH J. OXX maxios (gb) m.ps. 4 a. FAMILLE NIARCHOS J. PEASE (S) american devil m.ps. 3 a. ECURIE HARAS DE QUETIEVILLE J. VAN HANDENHOVE abtaal usa m.ps. 3 a. HAMDAN AL MAKTOUM JC. ROUGET (S) XANADOU IRE M.PS. 3 a. DANIEL-YVES TREVES JC. ROUGET (S) loi (ire) m.ps. 3 a. E. CIAMPI/L. DISARO JM. BEGUIGNE sir jade m.ps. 3 a. GUY PARIENTE JM. CAPITTE (S) no risk at all m.ps. 5 a. GALLORINI (S) JP. GALLORINI (S) light heavy ire m.ps. 3 a. MME JAMES S. BOLGER JS. BOLGER parish hall ire m.ps. 3 a. MME JAMES S. BOLGER JS. BOLGER HANA'S GOAL JPN F.PS. 3 a. MICHAEL TABART K. KATO RULERSHIP JPN M.PS. 5 a. SUNDAY RACING CO. LTD K. SUMII quest for peace ire m.ps. 4 a. O.T.I. RACING LM. CUMANI monterosso gb m.ps. 5 a. GODOLPHIN M. AL ZAROONI be fabulous ger f.ps. 5 a. GODOLPHIN M. AL ZAROONI mandaean gb m.ps. 3 a. GODOLPHIN M. AL ZAROONI dunaden (fr) m.ps. 6 a. PEARL BLOODSTOCK LTD M. DELZANGLES kesampour m.ps. 3 a. S.A. AGA KHAN M. DELZANGLES SAGHANN (IRE) M.PS. 3 a. H.H. AGA KHAN M. DELZANGLES dragon pulse ire m.ps. 3 a. KAI CHAH TAN M. DELZANGLES PRETTY PLEASE (IRE) F.PS. 3 a. ECURIE WILDENSTEIN M. DELZANGLES WILDDROSSEL GER F.PS. 3 a. ECURIE ROETTGEN M. KLUG mano diao gb m.ps. 3 a. WH SPORT INTERNATIONAL MAR. HOFER haya landa f.ps. 4 a. MME ODETTE FAU MME L. AUDON french fifteen m.ps. 3 a. CHEIK ABDULLAH BIN KHALIFA AL T N. CLEMENT YELLOW AND GREEN GB F.PS. 3 a. COMTE ANDRE DE GANAY N. CLEMENT danedream ger f.ps. 4 a. GESTUT B. EBERSTEIN/T. YOSHID P. SCHIERGEN EKTIHAAM IRE M.PS. 3 a. HAMDAN AL MAKTOUM R. VARIAN al kazeem gb m.ps. 4 a. DANIEL JOHN DEER RJ. CHARLTON earnestly jpn m.ps. 7 a. KOJI MAEDA S. SASAKI sea moon gb m.ps. 4 a. KHALID ABDULLAH SIR MR. STOUTE FIORENTE IRE M.PS. 4 a. BALLYMACOLL STUD FARM LTD SIR MR. STOUTE carlton house usa m.ps. 4 a. SA MAJESTE LA REINE D'ANGLETER SIR MR. STOUTE MOTHMAN (IRE) M.PS. 3 a. MME GERALDINE BOUQUIL T. LEMER BROWN PANTHER GB M.PS. 4 a. OWEN PROMOTION LIMITED TG. DASCOMBE DANCING RAIN IRE F.PS. 4 a. M.J. TAYLOR/L.A. TAYLOR WJ. HAGGAS SEDICIOSA (IRE) F.PS. 3 a. MAURICE LAGASSE Y. BARBEROT TRAILBLAZER JPN M.PS. 5 a. MLLE YOKO MAEDA Y. IKEE ORFEVRE JPN M.PS. 4 a. SUNDAY RACING CO. LTD Y. IKEE AVENTINO JPN M.PS. 8 a. MLLE KAZUKO YOSHIDA Y. IKEE WORLD ACE JPN M.PS. 3 a. SUNDAY RACING CO. LTD Y. IKEE |
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...and no Crackerjack King again!
I'll get him added anyway  |
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HM, the list looks incomplete to me. Has Andre Fabre really no entries ? And what about Alain de Royer Dupre ?
No 4 year olds or older for Aidan O'Brien either. |
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This is The HM's list in alphabetical order in case it helps. 71 entries.
Is that normal? I'm just thinking of the huge numbers we see for the Derby. Abtaal Usa M.Ps. 3 A. Hamdan Al Maktoum Jc. Rouget (S) Akeed Mofeed Gb M.Ps. 3 A. Jaber Abdullah J. Oxx Al Kazeem Gb M.Ps. 4 A. Daniel John Deer Rj. Charlton Amarcord M.Ps. 3 A. Frederic Bianco E. Lellouche American Devil M.Ps. 3 A. Ecurie Haras De Quetieville J. Van Handenhove Atempo Ger M.Ps. 4 A. Gestut Schlenderhan J. Hirschberger Aventino Jpn M.Ps. 8 A. Mlle Kazuko Yoshida Y. Ikee Bayan Ire M.Ps. 3 A. Iraj Parvizi Bj. Meehan Be Fabulous Ger F.Ps. 5 A. Godolphin M. Al Zarooni Beat Black Jpn M.Ps. 5 A. Koji Maeda H. Nakamura Beauty Parlour (Gb) F.Ps. 3 A. Ecurie Wildenstein E. Lellouche Brown Panther Gb M.Ps. 4 A. Owen Promotion Limited Tg. Dascombe Carlton House Usa M.Ps. 4 A. Sa Majeste La Reine D'angleter Sir Mr. Stoute Dancing Rain Ire F.Ps. 4 A. M.J. Taylor/L.A. Taylor Wj. Haggas Danedream Ger F.Ps. 4 A. Gestut B. Eberstein/T. Yoshid P. Schiergen Dragon Pulse Ire M.Ps. 3 A. Kai Chah Tan M. Delzangles Dream Tune Gb M.Ps. 3 A. Cheik Sultan B.K. B.Z. Al Nahya Cg. Cox Dunaden (Fr) M.Ps. 6 A. Pearl Bloodstock Ltd M. Delzangles Earnestly Jpn M.Ps. 7 A. Koji Maeda S. Sasaki Ektihaam Ire M.Ps. 3 A. Hamdan Al Maktoum R. Varian Ernest Hemingway Ire M.Ps. 3 A. Mme Magnier/M.Tabor/D.Smith Ap. O'brien Fiorente Ire M.Ps. 4 A. Ballymacoll Stud Farm Ltd Sir Mr. Stoute French Fifteen M.Ps. 3 A. Cheik Abdullah Bin Khalifa Al T N. Clement Furner's Green Ire M.Ps. 3 A. D.Smith/Mme J.Magnier/M.Tabor Ap. O'brien Galikova F.Ps. 4 A. Wertheimer & Frere F. Head (S) Hana's Goal Jpn F.Ps. 3 A. Michael Tabart K. Kato Hard Dream (Ire) M.Ps. 3 A. Pandora Stud Llc F. Rohaut (S) Haya Landa F.Ps. 4 A. Mme Odette Fau Mme L. Audon Imperial Monarch Ire M.Ps. 3 A. Mme Magnier/M.Tabor/D.Smith Ap. O'brien Kesampour M.Ps. 3 A. S.A. Aga Khan M. Delzangles Kissed Ire F.Ps. 3 A. D.Smith/Mme J.Magnier/M.Tabor Ap. O'brien La Peinture F.Ps. 3 A. Jean-Claude Seroul F. Rossi Light Heavy Ire M.Ps. 3 A. Mme James S. Bolger Js. Bolger Loi (Ire) M.Ps. 3 A. E. Ciampi/L. Disaro Jm. Beguigne Mandaean Gb M.Ps. 3 A. Godolphin M. Al Zarooni Mano Diao Gb M.Ps. 3 A. Wh Sport International Mar. Hofer Masked Marvel Gb M.Ps. 4 A. Bjorn E. Nielsen J. Gosden Maxios (Gb) M.Ps. 4 A. Famille Niarchos J. Pease (S) Maybe Ire F.Ps. 3 A. M.Tabor/D.Smith/Mme J.Magnier Ap. O'brien Monterosso Gb M.Ps. 5 A. Godolphin M. Al Zarooni Mothman (Ire) M.Ps. 3 A. Mme Geraldine Bouquil T. Lemer Nathaniel Ire M.Ps. 4 A. Lady Rothschild J. Gosden No Risk At All M.Ps. 5 A. Gallorini (S) Jp. Gallorini (S) Nutello Usa M.Ps. 3 A. Wertheimer & Frere C. Laffon-Parias Orfevre Jpn M.Ps. 4 A. Sunday Racing Co. Ltd Y. Ikee Parish Hall Ire M.Ps. 3 A. Mme James S. Bolger Js. Bolger Prairie Star M.Ps. 4 A. Ecurie Wildenstein E. Lellouche Pretty Please (Ire) F.Ps. 3 A. Ecurie Wildenstein M. Delzangles Propulsion (Ire) M.Ps. 3 A. Wertheimer & Frere F. Head (S) Quest For Peace Ire M.Ps. 4 A. O.T.I. Racing Lm. Cumani Rulership Jpn M.Ps. 5 A. Sunday Racing Co. Ltd K. Sumii Saghann (Ire) M.Ps. 3 A. H.H. Aga Khan M. Delzangles Sapphire Ire F.Ps. 4 A. Moyglare Stud Farm Ltd Dk. Weld Sarah Lynx Ire F.Ps. 5 A. Mme Robert G. Ehrnrooth J. Hammond (S) Sea Moon Gb M.Ps. 4 A. Khalid Abdullah Sir Mr. Stoute Sediciosa (Ire) F.Ps. 3 A. Maurice Lagasse Y. Barberot Sir Jade M.Ps. 3 A. Guy Pariente Jm. Capitte (S) Snow Fairy Ire F.Ps. 5 A. Anamoine Limited Eal. Dunlop Sofast M.Ps. 3 A. Wertheimer & Frere F. Head (S) Solemia (Ire) F.Ps. 4 A. Wertheimer & Frere C. Laffon-Parias Testosterone (Ire) F.Ps. 4 A. Nurlan Bizakov Eal. Dunlop Trailblazer Jpn M.Ps. 5 A. Mlle Yoko Maeda Y. Ikee Twirl Ire F.Ps. 3 A. D.Smith/Mme J.Magnier/M.Tabor Ap. O'brien Valdo Bere M.Ps. 3 A. Luigi Roveda E. Leenders Wading Ire F.Ps. 3 A. Mme Magnier/M.Tabor/D.Smith Ap. O'brien Wilddrossel Ger F.Ps. 3 A. Ecurie Roettgen M. Klug World Ace Jpn M.Ps. 3 A. Sunday Racing Co. Ltd Y. Ikee Wrote Ire M.Ps. 3 A. Mme Magnier/M.Tabor/D.Smith Ap. O'brien Xanadou Ire M.Ps. 3 A. Daniel-Yves Treves Jc. Rouget (S) Yazdi Ire M.Ps. 3 A. Iraj Parvizi Bj. Meehan Yellow And Green Gb F.Ps. 3 A. Comte Andre De Ganay N. Clement |
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Quite right Beryl, I've chopped a load off - was just under 100 entries.
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Apologies.
1 sea moon gb m.ps. 4 a. P2 59,5 *** KHALID ABDULLAH SIR MR. STOUTE 591.089 2 fiorente ire m.ps. 4 a. P1 59,5 *** BALLYMACOLL STUD FARM LTD SIR MR. STOUTE 57.949 3 st nicholas abbey ire m.ps. 5 a. P2 59,5 *** D.SMITH/MME J.MAGNIER/M.TABOR AP. O'BRIEN 2.480.992 4 windsor palace ire m.ps. 7 a. P2 59,5 *** D.SMITH/MME J.MAGNIER/M.TABOR AP. O'BRIEN 78.600 5 al kazeem gb m.ps. 4 a. P2 59,5 *** DANIEL JOHN DEER RJ. CHARLTON 156.781 6 prairie star m.ps. 4 a. P2 59,5 505 ECURIE WILDENSTEIN E. LELLOUCHE 106.100 7 meandre m.ps. 4 a. P2 59,5 *** FAMILLE ROTHSCHILD A. FABRE 433.957 8 no risk at all m.ps. 5 a. P2 59,5 505 GALLORINI (S) JP. GALLORINI (S) 71.800 9 atempo ger m.ps. 4 a. P2 59,5 *** GESTUT SCHLENDERHAN J. HIRSCHBERGER 53.350 10 monterosso gb m.ps. 5 a. P2 59,5 *** GODOLPHIN M. AL ZAROONI 5.513.279 11 fame and glory gb m.ps. 6 a. P2 59,5 *** HAY/SMITH/MAGNIER/TABOR AP. O'BRIEN 385.150 12 treasure beach gb m.ps. 4 a. P2 59,5 *** HAY/SMITH/MAGNIER/TABOR AP. O'BRIEN 1.584.770 13 mikhail glinka ire m.ps. 5 a. P2 59,5 *** RAMZAN KADYROV A. SHAVUYEV 193.252 14 carlton house usa m.ps. 4 a. P2 59,5 *** SA MAJESTE LA REINE D'ANGLETER SIR MR. STOUTE 305.320 15 await the dawn usa m.ps. 5 a. P2 59,5 *** M.TABOR/MME J.MAGNIER/D.SMITH AP. O'BRIEN 192.460 16 beat black jpn m.ps. 5 a. P2 59,5 *** KOJI MAEDA H. NAKAMURA 2.006.264 17 earnestly jpn m.ps. 7 a. P2 59,5 *** KOJI MAEDA S. SASAKI 1.990.568 18 trailblazer jpn m.ps. 5 a. P2 59,5 *** MLLE YOKO MAEDA Y. IKEE 1.877.368 19 memphis tennessee ire m.ps. 4 a. P1 59,5 *** MME MAGNIER/M.TABOR/D.SMITH AP. O'BRIEN 221.980 20 robin hood ire m.ps. 4 a. P1 59,5 *** MME MAGNIER/M.TABOR/D.SMITH AP. O'BRIEN 17.375 21 maxios (gb) m.ps. 4 a. P2 59,5 *** FAMILLE NIARCHOS J. PEASE (S) 37.250 22 masked marvel gb m.ps. 4 a. P2 59,5 *** BJORN E. NIELSEN J. GOSDEN 410.076 23 quest for peace ire m.ps. 4 a. P2 59,5 *** O.T.I. RACING LM. CUMANI 122.823 24 brown panther gb m.ps. 4 a. P1 59,5 *** OWEN PROMOTION LIMITED TG. DASCOMBE 216.039 25 dunaden (fr) m.ps. 6 a. P2 59,5 *** PEARL BLOODSTOCK LTD M. DELZANGLES 3.868.023 26 reliable man (gb) m.ps. 4 a. P2 59,5 *** PRIDE RACING CLUB A.DE ROYER DUPRE 1.063.070 27 nathaniel ire m.ps. 4 a. P2 59,5 *** LADY ROTHSCHILD J. GOSDEN 867.237 28 orfevre jpn m.ps. 4 a. P2 59,5 *** SUNDAY RACING CO. LTD Y. IKEE 7.652.936 29 rulership jpn m.ps. 5 a. P2 59,5 *** SUNDAY RACING CO. LTD K. SUMII 3.166.464 30 AVENTINO JPN M.PS. 8 a. 59,5 *** MLLE KAZUKO YOSHIDA Y. IKEE 98.938 31 shareta (ire) f.ps. 4 a. P2 58 *** S.A. AGA KHAN A.DE ROYER DUPRE 1.195.705 32 snow fairy ire f.ps. 5 a. P2 58 *** ANAMOINE LIMITED EAL. DUNLOP 1.697.136 33 testosterone (ire) f.ps. 4 a. P2 58 *** NURLAN BIZAKOV EAL. DUNLOP 231.860 34 sarah lynx ire f.ps. 5 a. P2 58 *** MME ROBERT G. EHRNROOTH J. HAMMOND (S) 774.852 35 haya landa f.ps. 4 a. P1 58 500 MME ODETTE FAU MME L. AUDON 115.185 36 golden lilac ire f.ps. 4 a. P2 58 *** GESTUT AMMERLAND A. FABRE 824.820 37 danedream ger f.ps. 4 a. P2 58 *** GESTUT B. EBERSTEIN/T. YOSHID P. SCHIERGEN 2.950.186 38 be fabulous ger f.ps. 5 a. P2 58 *** GODOLPHIN M. AL ZAROONI 198.750 39 giofra (gb) f.ps. 4 a. P2 58 *** HARAS DE LA PERELLE A.DE ROYER DUPRE 181.080 40 dancing rain ire f.ps. 4 a. P2 58 *** M.J. TAYLOR/L.A. TAYLOR WJ. HAGGAS 630.306 41 sapphire ire f.ps. 4 a. P2 58 *** MOYGLARE STUD FARM LTD DK. WELD 72.590 42 galikova f.ps. 4 a. P2 58 *** WERTHEIMER & FRERE F. HEAD (S) 679.300 43 solemia (ire) f.ps. 4 a. P2 58 505 WERTHEIMER & FRERE C. LAFFON-PARIAS 116.350 44 akeed mofeed gb m.ps. 3 a. P1 56 *** JABER ABDULLAH J. OXX 30.455 45 LAST TRAIN GB M.PS. 3 a. 56 *** KHALID ABDULLAH A. FABRE 12.000 46 ASHKIYR M.PS. 3 a. 56 S.A. AGA KHAN A.DE ROYER DUPRE 47 kesampour m.ps. 3 a. P2 56 *** S.A. AGA KHAN M. DELZANGLES 130.600 48 MANDOUR USA M.PS. 3 a. 56 *** PCSSE ZAHRA AGA KHAN A.DE ROYER DUPRE 31.300 49 SAGHANN (IRE) M.PS. 3 a. 56 *** H.H. AGA KHAN M. DELZANGLES 17.000 50 abtaal usa m.ps. 3 a. P2 56 *** HAMDAN AL MAKTOUM JC. ROUGET (S) 72.800 51 EKTIHAAM IRE M.PS. 3 a. 56 *** HAMDAN AL MAKTOUM R. VARIAN 25.403 52 MASTERSTROKE USA M.PS. 3 a. 56 *** CHEIK MOHAMMED AL MAKTOUM A. FABRE 29.000 53 DREAM TUNE GB M.PS. 3 a. 56 *** CHEIK SULTAN B.K. B.Z. AL NAHYA CG. COX 1.844 54 french fifteen m.ps. 3 a. P2 56 *** CHEIK ABDULLAH BIN KHALIFA AL T N. CLEMENT 352.459 55 AMARCORD M.PS. 3 a. 56 *** FREDERIC BIANCO E. LELLOUCHE 22.300 56 light heavy ire m.ps. 3 a. P2 56 *** MME JAMES S. BOLGER JS. BOLGER 45.475 57 parish hall ire m.ps. 3 a. P2 56 *** MME JAMES S. BOLGER JS. BOLGER 247.647 58 MOTHMAN (IRE) M.PS. 3 a. 56 *** MME GERALDINE BOUQUIL T. LEMER 17.250 59 loi (ire) m.ps. 3 a. P2 56 485 E. CIAMPI/L. DISARO JM. BEGUIGNE 69.700 60 camelot gb m.ps. 3 a. P2 56 *** D.SMITH/M.TABOR/MME J.MAGNIER AP. O'BRIEN 420.186 61 furner's green ire m.ps. 3 a. P2 56 *** D.SMITH/MME J.MAGNIER/M.TABOR AP. O'BRIEN 52.495 62 american devil m.ps. 3 a. P2 56 *** ECURIE HARAS DE QUETIEVILLE J. VAN HANDENHOVE 66.510 63 mandaean gb m.ps. 3 a. P2 56 *** GODOLPHIN M. AL ZAROONI 154.850 64 ERNEST HEMINGWAY IRE M.PS. 3 a. 56 *** MME MAGNIER/M.TABOR/D.SMITH AP. O'BRIEN 8.275 65 imperial monarch ire m.ps. 3 a. P2 56 *** MME MAGNIER/M.TABOR/D.SMITH AP. O'BRIEN 47.691 66 wrote ire m.ps. 3 a. P2 56 *** MME MAGNIER/M.TABOR/D.SMITH AP. O'BRIEN 601.823 67 LAGO MINTO GB M.PS. 3 a. 56 MISE DE MORATALLA A.DE ROYER DUPRE 68 hard dream (ire) m.ps. 3 a. P2 56 *** PANDORA STUD LLC F. ROHAUT (S) 96.300 69 sir jade m.ps. 3 a. P1 56 *** GUY PARIENTE JM. CAPITTE (S) 50.900 70 BAYAN IRE M.PS. 3 a. 56 *** IRAJ PARVIZI BJ. MEEHAN 71 YAZDI IRE M.PS. 3 a. 56 *** IRAJ PARVIZI BJ. MEEHAN 4.679 72 albion gb m.ps. 3 a. P1 56 *** MLLE KIRSTEN RAUSING A. FABRE 59.900 73 valdo bere m.ps. 3 a. P1 56 *** LUIGI ROVEDA E. LEENDERS 49.550 74 KOLONEL GER M.PS. 3 a. 56 *** STALL HELENA A. WOHLER 7.000 75 world ace jpn m.ps. 3 a. P2 56 *** SUNDAY RACING CO. LTD Y. IKEE 1.192.170 76 dragon pulse ire m.ps. 3 a. P2 56 *** KAI CHAH TAN M. DELZANGLES 152.290 77 XANADOU IRE M.PS. 3 a. 56 *** DANIEL-YVES TREVES JC. ROUGET (S) 44.500 78 nutello usa m.ps. 3 a. P1 56 *** WERTHEIMER & FRERE C. LAFFON-PARIAS 54.250 79 PROPULSION (IRE) M.PS. 3 a. 56 *** WERTHEIMER & FRERE F. HEAD (S) 21.200 80 sofast m.ps. 3 a. P2 56 *** WERTHEIMER & FRERE F. HEAD (S) 179.995 81 mano diao gb m.ps. 3 a. P1 56 *** WH SPORT INTERNATIONAL MAR. HOFER 9.000 82 DALKALA USA F.PS. 3 a. 54,5 *** S.A. AGA KHAN A.DE ROYER DUPRE 29.000 83 MAKANA F.PS. 3 a. 54,5 *** S.A. AGA KHAN A.DE ROYER DUPRE 13.600 84 sagawara (gb) f.ps. 3 a. P1 54,5 *** H.H. AGA KHAN A.DE ROYER DUPRE 37.300 85 kissed ire f.ps. 3 a. P2 54,5 *** D.SMITH/MME J.MAGNIER/M.TABOR AP. O'BRIEN 49.350 86 twirl ire f.ps. 3 a. P1 54,5 *** D.SMITH/MME J.MAGNIER/M.TABOR AP. O'BRIEN 28.920 87 wilddrossel ger f.ps. 3 a. P1 54,5 *** ECURIE ROETTGEN M. KLUG 5.400 88 beauty parlour (gb) f.ps. 3 a. P2 54,5 *** ECURIE WILDENSTEIN E. LELLOUCHE 69.000 89 PRETTY PLEASE (IRE) F.PS. 3 a. 54,5 *** ECURIE WILDENSTEIN M. DELZANGLES 17.000 90 YELLOW AND GREEN GB F.PS. 3 a. 54,5 *** COMTE ANDRE DE GANAY N. CLEMENT 4.800 91 waldlerche gb f.ps. 3 a. P2 54,5 *** GESTUT BERNRIED A. FABRE 57.000 92 SEDICIOSA (IRE) F.PS. 3 a. 54,5 *** MAURICE LAGASSE Y. BARBEROT 29.000 93 maybe ire f.ps. 3 a. P2 54,5 *** M.TABOR/D.SMITH/MME J.MAGNIER AP. O'BRIEN 314.950 94 wading ire f.ps. 3 a. P2 54,5 *** MME MAGNIER/M.TABOR/D.SMITH AP. O'BRIEN 50.898 95 la peinture f.ps. 3 a. P2 54,5 490 JEAN-CLAUDE SEROUL F. ROSSI 82.500 96 hana's goal jpn f.ps. 3 a. P2 54,5 *** MICHAEL TABART K. KATO 478.889 |
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I find it useful to sort by trainer but in my haste to post them up on here I must have missed a page out.
Anyway, what do we think? Bullet points for me: Overall entry well down - French getting twitchy about BCD by all accounts! No Stoute 3-y-os. Ballydoyle entry down, particularly the 3-y-o colts. The Camelot factor? Furners Green has found himself in a choice bunch and must be on the up imo. Today's Dee winner Astrology clearly not thought up to much. Shambles of an entry from Godolphin. Mandaean a massive horse for them this year, unless Andre can pull something off the shelf. Andre - Masterstroke, Last Train, Albion and Waldlerche interesting imo, the latter forming part of a strong French 3-y-o filly entry that includes Beauty Parlour and a host of Agas. No Frankel. Japanese challenge as strong as ever. Varian clearly likes his colt. Clive Cox is sticking Dream Tune in EVERYTHING at the moment. I have no idea how the horse is going but he better be going well as entry fees are mounting up. He's 33/1 for the Dante atm...I'd imagine Clive would tell you that's a big price. Haven't got my head round the Germans yet and the Italians, as tradition dictates, appear to have bottled it. |
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Oh yeah - and Danedream
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Here they are alphabetically again. Thanks HM.
50 Abtaal Usa M.Ps. 3 A. P2 56 *** Hamdan Al Maktoum Jc. Rouget (S) 72.800 44 Akeed Mofeed Gb M.Ps. 3 A. P1 56 *** Jaber Abdullah J. Oxx 30.455 05 Al Kazeem Gb M.Ps. 4 A. P2 59,5 *** Daniel John Deer Rj. Charlton 156.781 72 Albion Gb M.Ps. 3 A. P1 56 *** Mlle Kirsten Rausing A. Fabre 59.900 55 Amarcord M.Ps. 3 A. 56 *** Frederic Bianco E. Lellouche 22.300 62 American Devil M.Ps. 3 A. P2 56 *** Ecurie Haras De Quetieville J. Van Handenhove 66.510 46 Ashkiyr M.Ps. 3 A. 56 S.A. Aga Khan A.De Royer Dupre 09 Atempo Ger M.Ps. 4 A. P2 59,5 *** Gestut Schlenderhan J. Hirschberger 53.350 30 Aventino Jpn M.Ps. 8 A. 59,5 *** Mlle Kazuko Yoshida Y. Ikee 98.938 15 Await The Dawn Usa M.Ps. 5 A. P2 59,5 *** M.Tabor/Mme J.Magnier/D.Smith Ap. O'brien 192.460 70 Bayan Ire M.Ps. 3 A. 56 *** Iraj Parvizi Bj. Meehan 38 Be Fabulous Ger F.Ps. 5 A. P2 58 *** Godolphin M. Al Zarooni 198.750 16 Beat Black Jpn M.Ps. 5 A. P2 59,5 *** Koji Maeda H. Nakamura 2.006.264 88 Beauty Parlour (Gb) F.Ps. 3 A. P2 54,5 *** Ecurie Wildenstein E. Lellouche 69.000 24 Brown Panther Gb M.Ps. 4 A. P1 59,5 *** Owen Promotion Limited Tg. Dascombe 216.039 60 Camelot Gb M.Ps. 3 A. P2 56 *** D.Smith/M.Tabor/Mme J.Magnier Ap. O'brien 420.186 14 Carlton House Usa M.Ps. 4 A. P2 59,5 *** Sa Majeste La Reine D'angleter Sir Mr. Stoute 305.320 82 Dalkala Usa F.Ps. 3 A. 54,5 *** S.A. Aga Khan A.De Royer Dupre 29.000 40 Dancing Rain Ire F.Ps. 4 A. P2 58 *** M.J. Taylor/L.A. Taylor Wj. Haggas 630.306 37 Danedream Ger F.Ps. 4 A. P2 58 *** Gestut B. Eberstein/T. Yoshid P. Schiergen 2.950.186 76 Dragon Pulse Ire M.Ps. 3 A. P2 56 *** Kai Chah Tan M. Delzangles 152.290 53 Dream Tune Gb M.Ps. 3 A. 56 *** Cheik Sultan B.K. B.Z. Al Nahya Cg. Cox 1.844 25 Dunaden (Fr) M.Ps. 6 A. P2 59,5 *** Pearl Bloodstock Ltd M. Delzangles 3.868.023 17 Earnestly Jpn M.Ps. 7 A. P2 59,5 *** Koji Maeda S. Sasaki 1.990.568 51 Ektihaam Ire M.Ps. 3 A. 56 *** Hamdan Al Maktoum R. Varian 25.403 64 Ernest Hemingway Ire M.Ps. 3 A. 56 *** Mme Magnier/M.Tabor/D.Smith Ap. O'brien 8.275 11 Fame And Glory Gb M.Ps. 6 A. P2 59,5 *** Hay/Smith/Magnier/Tabor Ap. O'brien 385.150 02 Fiorente Ire M.Ps. 4 A. P1 59,5 *** Ballymacoll Stud Farm Ltd Sir Mr. Stoute 57.949 54 French Fifteen M.Ps. 3 A. P2 56 *** Cheik Abdullah Bin Khalifa Al T N. Clement 352.459 61 Furner's Green Ire M.Ps. 3 A. P2 56 *** D.Smith/Mme J.Magnier/M.Tabor Ap. O'brien 52.495 42 Galikova F.Ps. 4 A. P2 58 *** Wertheimer & Frere F. Head (S) 679.300 39 Giofra (Gb) F.Ps. 4 A. P2 58 *** Haras De La Perelle A.De Royer Dupre 181.080 36 Golden Lilac Ire F.Ps. 4 A. P2 58 *** Gestut Ammerland A. Fabre 824.820 96 Hana's Goal Jpn F.Ps. 3 A. P2 54,5 *** Michael Tabart K. Kato 478.889 68 Hard Dream (Ire) M.Ps. 3 A. P2 56 *** Pandora Stud Llc F. Rohaut (S) 96.300 35 Haya Landa F.Ps. 4 A. P1 58 500 Mme Odette Fau Mme L. Audon 115.185 65 Imperial Monarch Ire M.Ps. 3 A. P2 56 *** Mme Magnier/M.Tabor/D.Smith Ap. O'brien 47.691 47 Kesampour M.Ps. 3 A. P2 56 *** S.A. Aga Khan M. Delzangles 130.600 85 Kissed Ire F.Ps. 3 A. P2 54,5 *** D.Smith/Mme J.Magnier/M.Tabor Ap. O'brien 49.350 74 Kolonel Ger M.Ps. 3 A. 56 *** Stall Helena A. Wohler 7.000 95 La Peinture F.Ps. 3 A. P2 54,5 490 Jean-Claude Seroul F. Rossi 82.500 67 Lago Minto Gb M.Ps. 3 A. 56 Mise De Moratalla A.De Royer Dupre 45 Last Train Gb M.Ps. 3 A. 56 *** Khalid Abdullah A. Fabre 12.000 56 Light Heavy Ire M.Ps. 3 A. P2 56 *** Mme James S. Bolger Js. Bolger 45.475 59 Loi (Ire) M.Ps. 3 A. P2 56 485 E. Ciampi/L. Disaro Jm. Beguigne 69.700 83 Makana F.Ps. 3 A. 54,5 *** S.A. Aga Khan A.De Royer Dupre 13.600 63 Mandaean Gb M.Ps. 3 A. P2 56 *** Godolphin M. Al Zarooni 154.850 48 Mandour Usa M.Ps. 3 A. 56 *** Pcsse Zahra Aga Khan A.De Royer Dupre 31.300 81 Mano Diao Gb M.Ps. 3 A. P1 56 *** Wh Sport International Mar. Hofer 9.000 22 Masked Marvel Gb M.Ps. 4 A. P2 59,5 *** Bjorn E. Nielsen J. Gosden 410.076 52 Masterstroke Usa M.Ps. 3 A. 56 *** Cheik Mohammed Al Maktoum A. Fabre 29.000 21 Maxios (Gb) M.Ps. 4 A. P2 59,5 *** Famille Niarchos J. Pease (S) 37.250 93 Maybe Ire F.Ps. 3 A. P2 54,5 *** M.Tabor/D.Smith/Mme J.Magnier Ap. O'brien 314.950 07 Meandre M.Ps. 4 A. P2 59,5 *** Famille Rothschild A. Fabre 433.957 19 Memphis Tennessee Ire M.Ps. 4 A. P1 59,5 *** Mme Magnier/M.Tabor/D.Smith Ap. O'brien 221.980 13 Mikhail Glinka Ire M.Ps. 5 A. P2 59,5 *** Ramzan Kadyrov A. Shavuyev 193.252 10 Monterosso Gb M.Ps. 5 A. P2 59,5 *** Godolphin M. Al Zarooni 5.513.279 58 Mothman (Ire) M.Ps. 3 A. 56 *** Mme Geraldine Bouquil T. Lemer 17.250 27 Nathaniel Ire M.Ps. 4 A. P2 59,5 *** Lady Rothschild J. Gosden 867.237 08 No Risk At All M.Ps. 5 A. P2 59,5 505 Gallorini (S) Jp. Gallorini (S) 71.800 78 Nutello Usa M.Ps. 3 A. P1 56 *** Wertheimer & Frere C. Laffon-Parias 54.250 28 Orfevre Jpn M.Ps. 4 A. P2 59,5 *** Sunday Racing Co. Ltd Y. Ikee 7.652.936 57 Parish Hall Ire M.Ps. 3 A. P2 56 *** Mme James S. Bolger Js. Bolger 247.647 06 Prairie Star M.Ps. 4 A. P2 59,5 505 Ecurie Wildenstein E. Lellouche 106.100 89 Pretty Please (Ire) F.Ps. 3 A. 54,5 *** Ecurie Wildenstein M. Delzangles 17.000 79 Propulsion (Ire) M.Ps. 3 A. 56 *** Wertheimer & Frere F. Head (S) 21.200 23 Quest For Peace Ire M.Ps. 4 A. P2 59,5 *** O.T.I. Racing Lm. Cumani 122.823 26 Reliable Man (Gb) M.Ps. 4 A. P2 59,5 *** Pride Racing Club A.De Royer Dupre 1.063.070 20 Robin Hood Ire M.Ps. 4 A. P1 59,5 *** Mme Magnier/M.Tabor/D.Smith Ap. O'brien 17.375 29 Rulership Jpn M.Ps. 5 A. P2 59,5 *** Sunday Racing Co. Ltd K. Sumii 3.166.464 84 Sagawara (Gb) F.Ps. 3 A. P1 54,5 *** H.H. Aga Khan A.De Royer Dupre 37.300 49 Saghann (Ire) M.Ps. 3 A. 56 *** H.H. Aga Khan M. Delzangles 17.000 41 Sapphire Ire F.Ps. 4 A. P2 58 *** Moyglare Stud Farm Ltd Dk. Weld 72.590 34 Sarah Lynx Ire F.Ps. 5 A. P2 58 *** Mme Robert G. Ehrnrooth J. Hammond (S) 774.852 01 Sea Moon Gb M.Ps. 4 A. P2 59,5 *** Khalid Abdullah Sir Mr. Stoute 591.089 92 Sediciosa (Ire) F.Ps. 3 A. 54,5 *** Maurice Lagasse Y. Barberot 29.000 31 Shareta (Ire) F.Ps. 4 A. P2 58 *** S.A. Aga Khan A.De Royer Dupre 1.195.705 69 Sir Jade M.Ps. 3 A. P1 56 *** Guy Pariente Jm. Capitte (S) 50.900 32 Snow Fairy Ire F.Ps. 5 A. P2 58 *** Anamoine Limited Eal. Dunlop 1.697.136 80 Sofast M.Ps. 3 A. P2 56 *** Wertheimer & Frere F. Head (S) 179.995 43 Solemia (Ire) F.Ps. 4 A. P2 58 505 Wertheimer & Frere C. Laffon-Parias 116.350 03 St Nicholas Abbey Ire M.Ps. 5 A. P2 59,5 *** D.Smith/Mme J.Magnier/M.Tabor Ap. O'brien 2.480.992 33 Testosterone (Ire) F.Ps. 4 A. P2 58 *** Nurlan Bizakov Eal. Dunlop 231.860 18 Trailblazer Jpn M.Ps. 5 A. P2 59,5 *** Mlle Yoko Maeda Y. Ikee 1.877.368 12 Treasure Beach Gb M.Ps. 4 A. P2 59,5 *** Hay/Smith/Magnier/Tabor Ap. O'brien 1.584.770 86 Twirl Ire F.Ps. 3 A. P1 54,5 *** D.Smith/Mme J.Magnier/M.Tabor Ap. O'brien 28.920 73 Valdo Bere M.Ps. 3 A. P1 56 *** Luigi Roveda E. Leenders 49.550 94 Wading Ire F.Ps. 3 A. P2 54,5 *** Mme Magnier/M.Tabor/D.Smith Ap. O'brien 50.898 91 Waldlerche Gb F.Ps. 3 A. P2 54,5 *** Gestut Bernried A. Fabre 57.000 87 Wilddrossel Ger F.Ps. 3 A. P1 54,5 *** Ecurie Roettgen M. Klug 5.400 04 Windsor Palace Ire M.Ps. 7 A. P2 59,5 *** D.Smith/Mme J.Magnier/M.Tabor Ap. O'brien 78.600 75 World Ace Jpn M.Ps. 3 A. P2 56 *** Sunday Racing Co. Ltd Y. Ikee 1.192.170 66 Wrote Ire M.Ps. 3 A. P2 56 *** Mme Magnier/M.Tabor/D.Smith Ap. O'brien 601.823 77 Xanadou Ire M.Ps. 3 A. 56 *** Daniel-Yves Treves Jc. Rouget (S) 44.500 71 Yazdi Ire M.Ps. 3 A. 56 *** Iraj Parvizi Bj. Meehan 4.679 90 Yellow And Green Gb F.Ps. 3 A. 54,5 *** Comte Andre De Ganay N. Clement 4.800 |
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Does anyone know if baraan has been retired or stays in training.
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Not sure liverpaul.
Beauty Parlour looked very good today. Looks like she'll have no problem with 10f, but 12F? |