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Can't Catch Me
05 Feb 12 21:43
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Has anybody any idea when odds will be released for this? Thought there might have been some already, but seemingly not.

Will almost certainly be the best novice hurdle of the season thus far, and a big indicator to the Supreme (and Neptune). Although the ground looks like being heavy, so it will be a very different test to March.
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Report AL BUNDY February 5, 2012 10:22 PM GMT
Know of any that have named this race as an intended target?
Report judorick February 5, 2012 10:45 PM GMT
certainly Willie Mullins will have a couple in here and I will be surprised if Galileos Choice doesn't run - very important race and bound to have a big effect on the festival markets
Report Can't Catch Me February 5, 2012 10:58 PM GMT
Cash and Go is definitely running.

Of the Mullins runners, I think Sous Les Cieux is a definite, and Midnight Game highly likely. Of the others, I think Galileo's Choice will run too. Believe Monksland is heading staright to Chelts.
Report stevo1 February 6, 2012 4:09 AM GMT
Hopefully Sous Les Cieux will prove lto minor blip, if getting lead and settling.
Report sintonian February 6, 2012 1:16 PM GMT
I thought Midnight Game was heading straight to Chelts ? Already had 4 runs over hurdles so enough exp.
Report Can't Catch Me February 7, 2012 2:17 PM GMT
Dont know for sure sint, but have heard its being considered. Would he even enter him if he wasnt planning on running again? Has left him in at the 5 day stage too.

Will obviously be pleased if he isnt. He'd be the horse I feared most tbh.

P Benefficient
ch g Beneficial (GB) - Supreme Breda (IRE)

6, 11-10 (25) (A Shiels)
A J Martin


2 211-3 Dedigout
b g Bob Back (USA) - Dainty Daisy (IRE)

6, 11-10 (36) (Gigginstown House Stud) Rated 132
A J Martin

 
3 4115- Il Fenomeno
Denon (USA) - Fabulous Charm (ITY)

6, 11-10 (71) (Gigginstown House Stud) Rated 132
Noel Meade

   
4 F11- Lord Windermere
b g Oscar (IRE) - Satellite Dancer (IRE)

6, 11-10 (64) (Dr R Lambe)
J H Culloty

   
5 2113- Sous Les Cieux
ch g Robin Des Champs (FR) - Joie De La Vie (FR)

6, 11-10 (48) (Mrs S Ricci) Rated 145
W P Mullins

 
6 41-1 Captain Conan
b g Kingsalsa (USA) - Lavandou (GB)

5, 11-9 (37) (Triermore Stud)
Nicky Henderson

   
7 3111- Cash And Go
b g Sulamani (IRE) - Calcida (GER)

5, 11-9 (48) (David Monaghan & K S Jones) Rated 144
E J O'Grady

   
8 241-1 Midnight Game
b g Montjeu (IRE) - Midnight Angel (GER)

5, 11-9 (23) (Gigginstown House Stud)
W P Mullins

   
9 111-1 Terminal
b g Passing Sale (FR) - Durendal (FR)

5, 11-9 (29) (Favourites Racing Syndicate)
W P Mullins

   
10 133-1 Burn And Turn
b f Flemensfirth (USA) - Pescetto Lady (IRE)

6, 11-3 (15) (J P O'Flaherty)
Report sintonian February 7, 2012 3:55 PM GMT
Yes CCM he would. He has done that plenty this season with horses like Prince De Beauchene and Quel Esprit. Really phucks me off tbh because a lot of his horses are fancied runners.
Report sintonian February 7, 2012 3:56 PM GMT
Even Hurricane Fly was entered at the 5-day stage for the Grade 1 Istabraq Hurdle was not declared a non-runner until just before.
Report Can't Catch Me February 7, 2012 4:14 PM GMT
Fair enough mate. I'll keep my fingers crossed
Report Can't Catch Me February 7, 2012 8:51 PM GMT
Betting out.... Quite surprised CC is favourite.

3/1 Capatin Conan
7/2 Midnight Game
7/2 Cash and Go
9/2 Sous les Cieux

10/1 Bar
Report judorick February 7, 2012 9:15 PM GMT
very surprised Captain Conan is fav

Sous Les Cieux resented being restrained in the lead the last day and with a hold up ride I think he will go very well - with Galileos Choice a non runner this is deffo my bet
Report Can't Catch Me February 7, 2012 9:32 PM GMT
I agree Judo. I am absolutely certain he will run a better race than he did in the Future Champions. I imagine WPM will have Terminal giving him a nice lead too.

I still think he thinks SLC is potentially his best novice. When you look at the prices of SLC and Galileo's Choice for the Supreme, they are very odd imo.
Report judorick February 7, 2012 9:41 PM GMT
I am convinced SLC  is Mullins #1 2 mile novice hurdler
Report stevo1 February 7, 2012 10:48 PM GMT
Sous Les Cieux big price imo.
Report judorick February 7, 2012 11:09 PM GMT
yuh Steveo

Have already backed it, bound to be shorter
Report Can't Catch Me February 8, 2012 10:07 AM GMT
9/2 gone already....
Report stevo1 February 8, 2012 11:21 AM GMT
On at 9/2 and 4s think that will go shortly.
Report ChildOfMine2 February 8, 2012 12:10 PM GMT
I too can't see how Captain Conan is fav - Value of the race has to be Lord Windermere at 11/1 with PP. Looked really good on his two wins this season and can't see him out being out of the frame in this.
Report Can't Catch Me February 8, 2012 12:18 PM GMT
Dylan Ross seems to be the key to alot of the form lines. Just impossible to know how consistent he is. If he has given his true running on all 3 seconds, then there is no doubt LW is value.
Report ChildOfMine2 February 8, 2012 1:11 PM GMT
I agree and he defo runs according to Culloty!
Report judorick February 8, 2012 1:16 PM GMT
looks slow to me and Culloty said as much in his interview - get left behind
Report sintonian February 8, 2012 2:21 PM GMT
Have you backed SLC then CCM ?
Report Can't Catch Me February 8, 2012 2:44 PM GMT
Yes I have mate. Just don't see the point in backing C&G, so wanted to have a saver on something else. I spoke to WPM after the last race and he was absolutely shell shocked. Whilst we beat him fair and square, he was 1/3 and we were 11/2 that day... so he looked a bit of value at a point bigger than us for this race, especially when they clearly felt he was alot better than that.

As I said, I think he thinks SLC is his best novice.
Report Hubert February 8, 2012 2:54 PM GMT
sorry i must have missed bit of conversation there.. why are u saying "Just don't see the point in backing C&G"..
Report judorick February 8, 2012 2:56 PM GMT
I must admit at the time I said to myself "what the bloody hell are you doing?" when I saw him taken to the front that day. Guess that is the curse of being a 1/3 fav, you feel you are the one to beat, but really he needed burying - 9/2 did look huge to me
Report sintonian February 8, 2012 2:59 PM GMT
If you read WPN's comments after SLC's maiden hurdle win I dont think it was any secret this is, in his his opinion, his best novice.

But then he said the same about Zaidpour who also went off the boil at Xmas time. He got beat at 1/4 or something similar.
Report judorick February 8, 2012 3:08 PM GMT
**** now 3/1 for SLC
Report judorick February 8, 2012 3:08 PM GMT
B o yle s port s  3/1
Report Can't Catch Me February 8, 2012 3:14 PM GMT
Hubert. I'm part owner of C&G.
Report Can't Catch Me February 8, 2012 3:16 PM GMT
Still 7/2 with PP and 365 judo
Report judorick February 8, 2012 3:19 PM GMT
yes but it was boys that went 9/2 originally, clearly taken their fill now letting the others take any new money by going shorter
Report Hubert February 8, 2012 3:36 PM GMT
oh apologies CCM just remembered your earlier posts on SN blog now..
Best of Luck Sunday.. I'm firmly in your camp anyways i hope its not loyalty to Catch me (who was extremely good to me in irish races) that is leading me up d garden path!
Hope d horse comes out of race well enough to do himself justice in d SN.
Report Can't Catch Me February 8, 2012 3:37 PM GMT
Thanks alot Hubert. Would be very happy if he ends up doing as well as his big brother!
Report BJG February 8, 2012 3:50 PM GMT
SLC ew at 4s done here, missed the 9/2 Sad Cool Can only see this price gettin shorter

gl de weekend CCM, looks a decent race, interested to see how the english form measures up, personally think the form of the novices this side of the sea is much stronger, we shall see de weekend
Report Can't Catch Me February 8, 2012 3:53 PM GMT
Thanks BJG. I agree entirely. Think CC will struggle myself. Hows the weather over there? Lashing down I hope Laugh
Report BJG February 8, 2012 3:56 PM GMT
Yup, p1ssin since last night till about 10 this mornin, then drizzlin away on and off since - defo be heavy the weekend imo havin looked at the long range fcast
Report judorick February 8, 2012 3:59 PM GMT
conan a lay for me up against the best Irish on home turf
Report Can't Catch Me February 8, 2012 4:11 PM GMT
Thats what we like to hear!
Report Can't Catch Me February 10, 2012 10:49 AM GMT
Midnight Game a non runner.

Sint, you were absolutely bang on mate.
Report BJG February 10, 2012 11:48 AM GMT
1 3-0U1P Benefficient24 6 11-10 A J Martin33 136 34 142
2 54115 Il Fenomeno70 6 11-10 Noel Meade 132 118 145
3 F11 Lord Windermere63 6 11-10 J H Culloty 131 111 143
4 2-113 Sous Les Cieux47 t 6 11-10 W P Mullins52 145 140 155
5 3411 Captain Conan36 5 11-9 Nicky Henderson50 142 70 143
6 4-3111 Cash And Go47 5 11-9 E J O´Grady50 144 131 150
7 2-1331 Burn And Turn14 6 11-3 Mrs John Harrington67 118 89 137


Deloitte Novice Hurdle - Winner  2012-02-12
Favourites: Captain Conan (9/4) , Sous Les Cieux (11/4) , Cash And Go (7/2) , Lord Windermere (10) , Il Fenomeno (12) , Burn And Turn (20) , Benefficient (25)
Report BJG February 10, 2012 11:49 AM GMT
GOING REPORT for SUNDAY 12th FEBRUARY 2012 (Hennessy Gold Cup Meeting)


Issued at 8:00am on Friday 10th February 2012.


GOING: Ground is currently YIELDING on all tracks – 2mm of rain overnight.


FORECAST: Misty today, chance of rain Saturday. Dry and bright for Sunday.
Report Hubert February 10, 2012 12:15 PM GMT
SLC and C&Go to fight it out at d finish.. C&G sud have too much again imo..
Lord Windermere cant b too far off either on form..
Report Can't Catch Me February 10, 2012 12:39 PM GMT
Only Yielding BJG?

Seems amazing considering the rain there has been all week?
Report Can't Catch Me February 10, 2012 12:42 PM GMT
Big difference on the odds for C&G. VC have him joint fav at 9/4 but Boyles are really taking him on at 7/2.... much bigger than anyone else. Fingers crossed they have it all wrong!
Report sintonian February 10, 2012 12:48 PM GMT
Yep CCM. There is not a single big race i've not followed in the ante-post markets this season and WPM has had block entries on a few occasions. He indicated after his last run that Midnight Game would go to Chelts so basically entered him incase something happended to his other runner. gl with your bet/horse.
Report Can't Catch Me February 10, 2012 12:54 PM GMT
Cheers mate. He obviously thinks SLC is good enough....
Report Can't Catch Me February 10, 2012 12:57 PM GMT
Interesting that he hasnt left in something else to give SLC a lead. Dont think Ruby will want to do the same as last time, but wonder who will make the running?
Report BJG February 10, 2012 2:18 PM GMT
I cant get over the ground CCM - nearly fell off me chair wen i seen it this morning

Has been dry for the most part the last 2 days, give or take but was wet enough b4 that

Thurles soft to heavy yest
Punch was heavy last weekend too
Naas soft to heavy tomorrow


Must be serious drying at the course!
Report Can't Catch Me February 10, 2012 2:34 PM GMT
Absolutely astounding.

I reckon its The Headmaster and his fellow 33/1 China Rock backers Plain
Report roobuck February 10, 2012 4:00 PM GMT
CCM - wishing you all the best on Sunday
Report Can't Catch Me February 10, 2012 8:24 PM GMT
Thanks alot roobuck. Pleasing to See Boyles have been forced to retreat!
Report judorick February 10, 2012 8:46 PM GMT
how is Captain Conan still fav?

NAP lay for me
Report TD_Gunner February 10, 2012 9:06 PM GMT
dunno judo

good luck on Sunday CCM Happy
Report Mr Eboue February 11, 2012 9:44 AM GMT
Good luck for tomrrow pal.
Report Can't Catch Me February 11, 2012 10:33 AM GMT
Thanks lads.
Report judorick February 11, 2012 9:29 PM GMT
Sous Les Cieux favourite on here now 3.2
Report Can't Catch Me February 11, 2012 10:06 PM GMT
Not surprised really. CC drifted a bit.....

Dont think there will be a great deal between the 3 principals in the betting at the off.
Report judorick February 11, 2012 10:09 PM GMT
or in the race either

happy with 9/2 and hope to trade out short
Report Can't Catch Me February 11, 2012 10:14 PM GMT
Probably! Yep happy with 9/2 as well, but will be delighted to tear the ticket up and stick it in the bin if it loses Happy
Report judorick February 11, 2012 10:29 PM GMT
hehe I bet! good luck anyway

anything else you fancy?
Report Can't Catch Me February 11, 2012 10:33 PM GMT
Quite interested to see how Sportsmaster goes in the first as they think alot of him.

Other than that, think Quel Esprit has a favourites chance and fortunately on at 7/2. But will be half hoping the headmaster can land his monster gamble on China Rock!

Havent had a look at much else tbh. How about you?
Report judorick February 11, 2012 10:54 PM GMT
Mate of mine is involved with Bold Chief and it should have won the last day but Jacobs cokked it up

anyway goes at Exeter and they only have one to beat apparently, Hendo horse. About 2/1 and will travel and travel so bound to shorten - they expect it to win
Report judorick February 12, 2012 2:19 PM GMT
wow put in an in running lay to green evenly all round at 1.72... and amazingly it got matched, didn't ever look like winning!

that is a bonus and a half!

gotta love Betfair for that
Report Catch Me ifyoucan February 12, 2012 5:24 PM GMT
settled on inner, 6th halfway, went 3rd before 2 out, no extra early straight and dropped to 5th before last (lame and scoped badly post-race)

Hope he's OK
Report Tucho February 12, 2012 5:28 PM GMT
Sad all the best with him CCM

no idea what to make of that race really, except SLC was flying at the end and surely has to go for the Neptune now
Report TD_Gunner February 12, 2012 5:34 PM GMT
all the best CCM, hope he's ok.
Report Catch Me ifyoucan February 12, 2012 5:34 PM GMT
Sous Les Cieux's mistake at 2nd last cost him big time
Report stevo1 February 12, 2012 8:03 PM GMT
Personally think Ruby cocked up, not sure he needs 2m 5f, as they appeared to go pretty steady.
Sous need a strongly run race over 2 miles at Festival then may see him in better light if showing.
Report sintonian February 12, 2012 8:19 PM GMT
Think SLC will be better next season tbh. Reminds me of Zaidpour.

Hope your horse is OK CCM. Looked to be moving nicely at one stage.
Report Can't Catch Me February 13, 2012 2:18 PM GMT
Sad

What a funny race. Obviously gutted... but he did scope badly and was a bit lame afterwards. Nothing major, but enough to end his race, so at least there was a reason for it. AL said he didnt feel like the same horse he rode at Xmas and his class got him into the race, he just had nothing left to give.

Hopefully it was too bad to be true, and just one of those days they all have.

Didnt think Ruby gave SLC a great ride myself.... gave the horse an awful lot to do in dead ground. Granted he got the second last all wrong, but still.
Report roobuck February 13, 2012 7:18 PM GMT
Unlucky CCM. Do you think he will be ready for Cheltenham  and if he is will that be the plan?

As regards SLC, the distance he made up in the last 2 furlongs shows he is a very good horse, just needs a distance of ground as well as time as sint says
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