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inm2020
19 Jul 11 13:43
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Betting for the Nassau stakes


Misty For me 2/1

Snow Fairy 9/4

Midday 3/1

Bar 13/2

Surley Midday has to be a great price considering MFM had first run on he from the front and she had a hard race in the corination cup. The corination cup run was good considering Qually went to soon on her and got done by 1 length to st nic. Snow fairy probely needed the run at sandown and will come on for that run.
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Report tobermory July 19, 2011 4:26 PM BST
6 lengths requires a big turnaround

Crystal Capella @ 7/1 is the outstanding value IMO
Report sintonian July 19, 2011 4:31 PM BST
doesn't Crystal Cappela head for York Oaks ?
Report tobermory July 19, 2011 4:41 PM BST
No doubt , but easy to run in both and after  Newmarket they said she could run before York


Sir Michael Stoute is the only current handler to match Sir Henry Cecil’s record in the  Nassau Stakes and he could also bid for a record eighth victory with dual Group Two scorer Crystal Capella


Haven't read anything more recent than that. Appreciate if anyone knows any different though i was going to wait for the day anyway.
Report apieceofcake July 19, 2011 5:33 PM BST
Anyone else get the feeling that Misty does not like her trips abroad?

I know she won at Longchamp last year but her flops at Newmarket and Epsom must be a worry, enough for me to rule out backing her anyway.

I fancy Midday will bounce back to form if the ground is not to soft.
Report sintonian July 20, 2011 10:47 AM BST
She wasn't fit in the Guineas, imo , Apoc. And she reportedly did not handle Epsom or stay the 10f. Plausible enough to give her the benefit of the doubt imo.

But for it's best to wait and see what the ground is because there is nothing at the prices that immediately jumps out. If the ground has some cut in it then i'd expect MFM to win again.
Report sintonian July 20, 2011 10:47 AM BST
* stay 12f
Report FatoteSport July 21, 2011 10:54 AM BST
Isnt Midday due to run in the KG? That doesnt give her much recovery time?
Report sintonian July 21, 2011 1:03 PM BST
No she isn't, taken out.
Report tobermory July 25, 2011 1:51 PM BST
5 Day Stage

Midday
Principal Role
Misty For Me
Snow Fairy
Crystal Capella
Banimpire
Antara
Sajjhaa
Field Day
Theyskens'Theory
First City
Barefoot
Lady and Look At Me
Report sintonian July 25, 2011 7:48 PM BST
looks a cracking renewal, best race of the week.
Report tinkler July 25, 2011 8:36 PM BST
Very difficult race to way up. Misty for me has run poorly twice this season. Both were in England ,but shes
won in france so cann't be such a bad traveller. Snow Fairy picked up an injury towards the end of the year
and put up a weak performance in the eclipse, Is she the same horse?
Midday was slammed by Misty for me fair and square and if Misty for me reproduces has no chance of reversing form.
If Misty for me reproduces her last effort the others have little chance , but she put up 2 poor runs
out of her last 4.   
If misty for me gets to 5/2 I'll be backing her ,otherwise its a pass.
Report sintonian July 28, 2011 5:21 PM BST
Only 7 runners but looks a rip-snorter.

The ground is now officially GF,G in places so I wonder if Midday might get closer to MFM ? That said, Goodwood is not to disimilar from the Curragh so if they run from the front again she might be hard to peg back.

Snow Fiary, on the face of it, was disappointing in the Eclipse, but I think you have to give her the benefit of the doubt. She was having her seasonal debut and if you go into top races ''needing the run'', especially against the likes of SYT & WF, then you will get hammered.
Report caward July 28, 2011 5:33 PM BST
Think you will see a different Midday on Saturday, fully expect to reverse form with Misty For Me also Henry's other runner principal Role shouldn't be discounted a bit to find on form but improving rapidly.
Report A_T July 28, 2011 5:39 PM BST
Midday seems to peak at this time of year and has won this race twice already. MFM not sure what to make of her - clearly very talented. Can't have Snow Fairy she was beaten too easily at Sandown - at her best she was well beaten by Midday at York. Midday for me on the assumption that the ground beat her last time.
Report hippie July 28, 2011 6:07 PM BST
Snow Fairy wasn't at her best at York, she was at her best in Japan and Hong Kong where she was absolutely stunning.
Report TheFormMan July 28, 2011 7:52 PM BST
Snow Fairy was at her best at york hippie,it would be wrong to assume that just because she was a visually impressive winner in japan that it was a big step up in performance,it was a race restricted to fillys and mares and the opposition was simpely poor in standerd and again in Hong Kong,she showed a good turn of foot to just win by a neck,but it was just at the end of a long season for most horses which we all know can throw up funny results.
Impossible to see her turning round the form with Midday,this looks between the front 2 in the betting,Midday should get alot closer to MFM with the better ground and proven track form but it would be a big disappointment if MFM could not confirm on these terms,again getting 10lbs and having aleady won on good/firm ground

Not had a bet yet and will probably just wait for a match bet between Midday and snow fairy and take Midday to beat her no troubles and with both trading at 3/1 should get even money the pair in a match
Report hippie July 28, 2011 8:06 PM BST
You think "simpely poor" horses turn up for million-pound-to-the-winner purses jaded after long seasons? Get real, she had real stars behind her in Hong Kong, that's why the performance was stunning not because "she showed a good turn of foot to just win by a neck".
Report TheFormMan July 28, 2011 9:07 PM BST
she will never reverse form with Midday
Report FatoteSport July 28, 2011 10:20 PM BST
should get even money the pair in a match


:D
Report tobermory July 29, 2011 1:00 AM BST
It's hard to assess the level of Snow Fairy's win in Japan, but in Hong Kong she beat Planteur etc which was probably as good a field as Midday has ever beaten .

Doubts after Sandown about wether Snow Fairy is going to perform to that level this year i suppose, but if losing to Midday last year was her running poorly, then she has already shown she can recover her best later in the season. Midday may herself just not be as good anymore based on this season's runs.

Am i on my own in liking Crystal Capella for this? Beat Redwood - a consistent ,Sri Putra level horse - out of sight at Newmarket, while  Redwood was himself easily beating the same sort of horses Await The Dawn had behind him at Ascot.
Report turnip turns July 29, 2011 5:10 PM BST
UNSUITABLE ground has ruled Irish 1,000 Guineas winner Misty For Me out of Saturday's Group 1 Markel InsuranceNassau Stakes at Glorious Goodwood.Shocked
Report A_T July 29, 2011 5:19 PM BST
No doubt now Midday is the one.
Report sintonian July 29, 2011 5:41 PM BST
Cry
Report tobermory July 30, 2011 1:53 AM BST
My ratings convert to these odds.....

Nassau Rating Price
Crystal Capella 122.5 2.75
Midday 122 2.98
Snow Fairy 120 4.3
Barefoot Lady 112.5 27
Principal Role 108.5 58
Field Day 107 74


..... so obviously i am on Crystal
Report TheFormMan July 30, 2011 9:57 AM BST
Think CC needs a strong gallop over 12f on soft ground to be seen at her best,she will get non of that today,Snow Fairy also needs a really strong gallop as she likes to sit in and come past horses at the finish and non of the above have the speed of Midday,everything about todays race will be much more suited to her than the other 2,fast or slow gallop does not matter to her either way and she has the speed to outgun them off a slow pace,ground and track will be fine for her,has already slammed SF into the wall at york last year with any amount in hand giving her 10lbs,see no possible way that SF can turn around that form off level weights today.

You are only getting 7/4 as she was not at her best last time out and it looks a huge price for me,cant see any other result than a Midday victory and have had a serious bet on her
Report ilikewavingatbuses July 30, 2011 11:29 AM BST
^same for me!
Report Figgis July 30, 2011 11:33 AM BST
Midday has the best form but I reckon she's only 3lbs better than an on song Snow Fairy. I wouldn't be totally confident either of them will be at their best today but it has to be considered that SF is the fresher. The prices look about right to me so it's a no bet race.
Report EastLower Gooner July 30, 2011 12:02 PM BST
3yr olds have been relentless this season vs their elders. not just here but its happening worldwide so cant truly put a line through Barefoot Lady despite the seemingly tough task with the ratings.

Still very unexposed at this distance (raced too freely early on in the Musidora only 10 days after a hard race in the guineas).

Very good 3rd vs the French duo in the Coronation and given a nice 43 day break since then. That looks good. I would guess that if theres a problem with the pace ie mediocre gallop and a sprint finish that she could be the one to capitalise as she's clearly one of the fastest horses in the field.

If Snow Fairy returns to her Far East form then its her race to lose. Nice post Eclipse quotes from Dunlop. Said he tried to tell everyone she badly needed the race and that Johnny said she was unsuited by the track. Dont really understand that last comment as she's plenty experienced but at least its an excuse and she quickened up oh so well when winning the Height of Fashion over course and distance here last year before the Oaks.

I'm going split stakes.

80% - Snow Fairy
20 % Barefoot Lady

and hope for the best.

I dont think Crystal Capella will be fast enough but a complete pace meltdown (which seems a bit unlikely but hey it could happen) would have me worried as she could just run over the top of them in that scenario.

Principal Role - I'm guessing is the pace maker for Midday???

Midday - tough cookie in this race but she does have her moments when she can just leave herself vulnerable. I'll take her on at the price but wont lay her.

Field Day - Well at least you get £2500 for finishing last here. Fallon holds her up plum last and tries to pick off what he can late on.
Report ilikewavingatbuses July 30, 2011 12:49 PM BST
just back midday i-r she always trades bigger her, that way at least u got the value if she gets beatLaugh and if she never trades bigger at least u didnt do your moneyPlain
Report EastLower Gooner July 30, 2011 3:20 PM BST
yep yep...wd winnders. kudos.
Report tobermory July 30, 2011 3:29 PM BST
wd Form Man and Midday backers.

Imoressive, travelled very well.
Report caward July 30, 2011 3:38 PM BST
At no time was Principal Role in the race to make the pace good filly in her own right probobley could have finished 2nd, Midday cracking mare just a shame Misty For me wasn't in the race think she would have proved the run at the Curragh all wrong IMO.
Report TheFormMan July 30, 2011 4:11 PM BST
Great Mare,Great performance,well done all backers
Report Figgis July 30, 2011 4:54 PM BST
Good to see her bag the 3, well done backers.
Report sintonian July 30, 2011 7:40 PM BST
well done TFF, Buses.
Report cryoftruth July 30, 2011 9:19 PM BST
Another brilliant effort.
Report A_T July 30, 2011 10:17 PM BST
Another terrific win for Midday - I do wish she could be produced a bit later though she does doss about in front and my heart can't take it Laugh
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