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Aidan, stop tossing off over So You Think and just let the horse do the talking.
Again we see a small race field for a "supposed" group 1 race in the UK in which SYT is entered, stop the BS, i dont want here anymore of this crap you dribble on about.
Australia says..........WAKE UP!
Again we see a small race field for a "supposed" group 1 race in the UK in which SYT is entered, stop the BS, i dont want here anymore of this crap you dribble on about.
Australia says..........WAKE UP!
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whats it got to do with him if its a small field?
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It's Bart!
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He appears to be softening up the chosen races IMO with this constant dribble, trying to scare off any opposition, that they have no chance as he has "such a wonderful, brilliant, amazing, best ever, sensational, horse fit for a Queen, yada yada yada yada, BS.
Trainers here in Australia do not carry on like a 12 year old girl with a crush on their first pony. Sorry but this is making me vomit, and im a big fan of SYT but its embarrassing now, enough is enough, just shut the **** up and get on with it. |
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Apparently Betfair need to approve my photo of Bart before i a can post it, how stupid is that, GTFO?
Anyway, clearly Bart is much grumpier than me and has bigger eyebrows than my avatar photo.  |
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He does it every year with at least one horse. I guess it's antagonizing for people. It's almost as if he thinks people are daft. Nobody is going to buy a horse on a count of his excuses or superlatives. It's a waste of time listening to the guy.
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Just got this email 2 minutes ago, I kid you not!
"Master trainer Aidan O'Brien is not a man given to over-hyping his horses. So it was enlightening to hear his comments after his Aussie import So You Think." BWAHAHAHA.............. |
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are yous two serious, he talks up his horses (for obvious reasons) and other trainers chicken out and hes the one to blame?!
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I never said that. You suffer from the Sintonians. In other words you just make it up without reading something properly.
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sorry, horse singular, on your part.
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What i mean is, i didn't make comment on So You Think's opponents, or lack of them. You can only beat what turns up. I was just agreeing with regards to the superlatives and antagonism we hear from that trainer with regards to certain horses. Nobody is going to buy horses because of what he says. Many people who buy horses have a few bob and know about horses, and for those who don't they hire someone to know for them.
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I take full responsibility for any silliness said here, Graeme has nothing to do with it.
I am the lone Adan O'Brien antagonist here. |
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O'Brien, Frankel looks beatable after that performance, stop talking $hit and get on with it.
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Say what you like, force, but tomorrow's race is a far cry from the egg and spoon races he's been contesting in Ireland and quality wise it's a step up from what he's been facing Down Under.
If he's the machine people think he'll prove it tomorrow but if there's a day he'll get beat it will be tomorrow. You should be supporting O'Brien here cos if there's one trainer who's liable to get the best out of this horse, it's him. |
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tbf he does talk every horse up.
BUT i dont blame HIM for the small fields, this was his engagement and workforce and many others had a chance to take him on here if they so wished. fwiw, bart cummings has won over 120 gr1 races and rates this fella his best. i dont know if he will win tomorrow like the rest of u, but he does have an outstanding record , (not just the 2 gash races in ireland), he won two cox plates , the first when he was still offically a 2 yr old which in oz in unheard of, it just doesnt happen, no matter how good horses are. hes a pretty short price so a cheap lay for those against him i suppose. should be a good race , and i expect him to win again. gl |
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Who exactly chickened out here anyway? Workforce was never going to show over 10f. Aiaden O'brien seems to have a fair few of the other decent 10f horses. And from all reports plantuer is one hell of a 10f horse.
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I don't think Bart is ever on record as saying that this horse is better than Galilee...
I think it was more the press down here that started the SYT is the best Bart's trained stuff. Similarly it appears the press is to blame up there, Aiden seems to be nothing more than a gentleman and when continually asked about the horse always gives his time. He is hardly going to stand there and say ' yeah he's goes okay I suppose'... |
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 This man is "not amused" and neither am I. STFU and get on with it. |
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tommyjone 15 Jun 11 01:23
Who exactly chickened out here anyway? Workforce was never going to show over 10f. Aiaden O'brien seems to have a fair few of the other decent 10f horses. And from all reports plantuer is one hell of a 10f horse. ------------------ he's not worth half as much if doesnt before he's retired. |
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This the exact scenario i was worrying about, Adan talking complete BS all month then looking like a mug.
ADAN..........LOSE. |
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Aidan now saying the horse wasn't fit and that the horses defeat was all his own fault
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beaten by a better horse?
Can't say that can you really |
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LOL, SYT is now officially Irish, I am disowning him as Australian.
ADAN IS A COMPLETE MUPPET. |
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He's pretty good at running horses unfit and never telling the public, and when they are fit and get beaten fair and square he's telling us the horse was unfit after the race, how can anybody take this slightly loopers individual serious after this?
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Apparently AOB is taking responsibility for not having pushed SYT harder. Yup - he says he brought a horse not fully fit to Ascot. You couldn't make it up. The horse wasn't good enough to win. Accept defeat and the bubble's burst. This is no world beater. A very good horse yes, but he's been running to RPR128 in all his recent races, & Rewilding came into the race a progressive horse on RPR124+. He's no doubt improved from his seasonal debut 124 run & looked to be going away at the finish so the Arc looks beyond SYT as well, especially with Workforce capable of 130+. I'm not even sure SYT will prove to be the best in his stable, should SNA (125+) or Await the Dawn (124+) get the chance to take him on, there surely wouldn't be much in it.
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Apparently AOB is taking responsibility for not having pushed SYT harder. Yup - he says he brought a horse not fully fit to Ascot. You couldn't make it up. The horse wasn't good enough to win. Accept defeat and the bubble's burst. This is no world beater. A very good horse yes, but he's been running to RPR128 in all his recent races, & Rewilding came into the race a progressive horse on RPR124+. He's no doubt improved from his seasonal debut 124 run & looked to be going away at the finish so the Arc looks beyond SYT as well, especially with Workforce capable of 130+. I'm not even sure SYT will prove to be the best in his stable, should SNA (125+) or Await the Dawn (124+) get the chance to take him on, there surely wouldn't be much in it.
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Just a blip on his career.
He did marvellous jobs with Starspangledbanner and Haradsun and will do the same with SYT. |
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Infact I wouldn't be surprised if some phantom injury is found tonight and the horse is promptly retired in the morning, never to race again. Isn't that the norm for such hype horses when they are finally beaten? Make an excuse and send em to the breeding sheds at inflated prices... ;)
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He be kept in training....that was still a unbelievable run smashing horse by 6l and beat Plantuer on of sight.
Rewilding is a Top class horse and proved it today but you needed to take a leap of faith |
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Do you honestly think Planteur has run to his best? He was beaten by 66/1 shot Sri Putra! Sri Putra could be put on 118 but Planteur has run to 124 previously so it looks very doubtful Planteur has run to his best. If he had, you'd have to put SYT and Rewilding both in the 130s (!)
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The fact is he was beaten by a better horse on the day. Rewilding is obviously a horse with distance dimension. I couldn't see him beating SYT over todays trip considering he's won over 14-15f. All this rubbish about not training the horses hard enough was embarrasing to listen to. Take it on the chin. Excellent race.
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Have to agree with biggie77, if he SYT wants to patch the burst bubble it will be over 10f, doesn't look like a horse that would be suited to a strong run 12f like the Arc.
How far would Rewilding have finished in front if they covered another furlong say? |
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A lot of Aussies will be using Adans head as a dart board tomorrow.
Anyway well done to the winner and Frankie. |
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Same logic applies to SYT. I dont think he ran up to his best and his pacemaker was a joke actually being a negative to the horse he wanted to help. It was a bad a piece of riding by Joesph O Brien in a Group 1 actually cutting off SYT and not setting quick but good fractions. He couldn't inject any sort of pace until after 2f where SYT was incredibly keen. It was a disaster from start to finish and still beat the field 6l.
Rewilding has put in a superstar performance and wore him down because he had stamina in abudance and was settled early. SYT is still a Superstar and will prove it but Jan Vermeer is not the pacemaker??....What was wrong with Windsor Palace?. A complete muck up by the trainer's son and you could say employing a Derby Favorite as a pacemaker. Bad day for Coolmore but that is racing... |
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He never raced much in Australia. I don't know why they would want his head on a dart board. You can't question his ability to train a horse, such as Haradasun. SYT simply isn't as good as people would have you believe.
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Graeme but your logic Rewilding isn't a Superb Horse....I actually think Rewilding is a superb Horse and is worthy to be called such after that performance over 10f when 12f could be his best. I think the Front 2 are superb Horses.
One thing is for sure...what a division we have this year. Unbelievable Races to come. |
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Agree with the above poster, Aidan comes across terribly, talking about the horse as if the horse flew the plane himself from Aus.
He did the same with Starspangled last yr. In these sprints there is a length or two between the front 5 and he is talking about the horse as if it could speak himself and was from Mars. It is truly embarassing and now the bubble is burst with SYT, in order to protect its value at stud, he blames himself. Great trainer, which is all that matters for Coolmore, but little wonder there is little good will towards that operation. |
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"Graeme but your logic Rewilding isn't a Superb Horse"
What logic is that ?....i think i said i didn't think he was a 10f horse. I said this because his last 6 runs before today had been over 11f(twice), 12f(3times) and 15f. He also skipped the Dubai gold cup for the Sheema classic. The King George is looking like a hot race. I think Workforce would win it, so i don't see how he's being pushed out, unless he doesn't go. |
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The tactics went all wrong for SYT today.
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Claiming SYT was not spot on - he's had 2 runs, and was this not the horse Aidan's wife tweeted about on Sat, after his final piece of work, claiming he'd effortlessly pulled clear of his work-partner? !
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