Frankel 1/3 for St James's Palace Stakes

What is going to line up against him at Ascot? The 1/3 looks about right to me - probably shorter on the day. What exactly is a re-run of the Guineas going to do to add to his reputation?

After that what? If he takes on the older milers (and I rather doubt Goldikova will be coming over so "early" in her season) again what does that prove? Canford Cliffs is an admirable horse but who would honestly rank him in the top 5 milers of the last decade.

Whichever way you look at it Frankel will have to be stepped up in trip but once again exactly what will he be lining up against over 10f in the autumn? I doubt there will be anything in the opposition that enhances his reputation and after all with his breeding who exactly is going to be surprised or impressed that he stays 10f?

Khalid Abdullah is a great supporter of the game. He is sufficiently wealthy to be able to take a minor hit if his horse is beaten over 12f (after all many on here would contend that staying 12f is a positive disincentive for breeding purposes).  Right now he has on his hands potentially the best horse he will ever own, and that's really saying something. To qualify as a true great (IMHO), as opposed to a great miler, he will have to either win the Breeders or the Arc, anything less will be an anti-climax.

Maybe the plan all along has been to honour Bobby Frankel by winning at the Breeders, in which case it will have been a long and somewhat lop-sided season. That I could understand but just keeping him to a mile at Ascot and then a couple of uncompetitive 10f Group 1's to preserve his unbeaten run would be unworthy of the owner, trainer or horse. I would understand the wholly business orientated Coolmore operation following this route but would hope for something more "sporting" from KA & co.

at 4? with that temperment? unlikely!

true most will prob avoid!

plenty in behind didnt run their race in the guineas imo. he'll get a race off a few on another day im sure!

You can forget the likes of Casamento and Pathfork ever getting near Frankel over a mile.

I'd take 1/3 with a run if I could get it

I don't think I could back a horse at 1/3 ante-post with the risk of not even getting a run

Listen people!

FRANKEL will win the St James Palace Stakes however he wants to win it.

He will be held up next time, believe me and he'll make his move turning for home.

It will be all over in 3 strides, believe me!

cant hold this horse up, will pull like stink until he hets his own way, has a fragile temperment!

ok mayweather thanks

Essexguy - you were on here giving it the large and I won your money.

You really didn't understand how good this horse was, I told you but you didn't listen you wally.

I even backed him to win by over a certain amount of lengths. I was SUPER confident.

Essexguy - you were thought of as a good tipster on here but when I come along I really did a Frankel on you lol.

I beat you. ;-)

What do you mean by a decent bet?

I generally bet between £20 to £1,000 so basically that means most bookies thanks.

I bet bigger on Group 1 races because I have my own method and happy with it.

Because you are a muppet, that's why!

Mayweather, you have just confirmed what most people have thought for some time about you, you do not have a brain cell in that big head of yours.

Essexguy - I must be pretty clever and on the ball because I did tell you Big Bucks and Frankel would win while you were telling me they won't.

Essexguy - skills pays the bills and I am the man with the minerals, unlike you muppet boy.

Henry Cecil this a.m.: 'At this stage it makes sense to stick to a mile and work towards the St James’s Palace at Royal Ascot with Frankel.

Henry Cecil. Impressive Newbury maiden winner World Domination will put his Derby credentials to the test when he lines up in the Dante Stakes on Thursday.

The son of Empire Maker faces a big step up in grade but he has always been highly regarded by his trainer and he is hopeful of a good run.

Cecil said: Cecil said: “World Domination was off for four days and missed a serious piece of work. However, if he is going to be a Derby candidate he must run in the Dante and then we will see if he is Epsom material - or, otherwise, maybe Royal Ascot.

“If he can run a really good race, win or lose, I am sure he will come on a great deal for it as he has only had one race and never ran as a two-year-old.”

Oaks hope Arizona Jewel could run in the Musidora Stakes on Wednesday following her stylish win in a Sandown maiden last month.

Cecil said of the Dansili filly: “Arizona Jewel will hopefully run in the Musidora Stakes. We shall see if she is up to Oaks thoughts - or the Ribblesdale at Royal Ascot.” 

Warren Place are hoping to be double-handed in the Group 2 Middleton Stakes with both Midday and Timepiece coming under consideration.

Midday finished second in the race last year and will again be burdened with a penalty for her Group 1 victories.

Cecil added: “Midday and Timepiece may both come out in the Middleton Stakes as a start to a long and hopefully successful season for them both.”

Native Ruler ran a tremendous race in the Jockey Club Stakes going down by just a nose to Dandino after 21 months off the track. The son of Cape Cross is a possible for the Yorkshire Cup next Friday.

Cecil said: “I may run Natural Ruler in the Yorkshire Cup. He ran a great race at Newmarket after a 21 month layoff following a tendon transplant.

“In general it has been a difficult season for many horses as the lack of rain has meant we haven’t been able to run many horses for fear of jarring them up and ruining their chances for the rest of the season

If Frankel is 1/3 in the St James Palace I'll be looking for others.  Twenty years ago that race was a match between Rodrigo de Triano and Arazi.  They finished 4th and 5th.

Oh dear Kincsem. Have you learnt nothing! Never mind - you'll tell us your laying him and then, when he wins by 20 lengths, you'll tell us you didnt in the end.

Sintonian - by the way, your breath stinks! lol