ANTE-POST FLAT TURF 2011 BIG RACES THREAD.

L'Abbaye
0.5 pt e/w Sole power 14/1

Foret
0.5 pt win Bewitched 14/1

Bloo sq

L'Abbaye

0.5 points ew Captain Dunne @ 33/1 1/4 123 Billys

Foret

1 point win Worthadd @ 10/1 badblokes

Arc

0.5 points ew Treasure Beach @ 40/1 1/4 123 nrnb bet365p

Ascot 3.30

Well Sharp 2pt w 9/1 sj

Arc - Testosterone - 0.5pt ew 100/1, b0yles/korral.

Challenge Cup

1 point win/0.5 point place Parisian Pyramid @ 20/1 Badblokes 1/4 1234
1 point win/0.5 point place Atlantic Story @ 25/1 Billys 1/4 1234

Cumberland Lodge - Lost in the Moment 2pts Win 7/2, Korral.

Another half point ew on both in Challenge cup, 25/1 for parisian pyramid this time. Same firms

Challenge Cup - Imperial Guest 1.5pt ew 18/1, 3.65.

Ascot 2.40

Arctic Cosmos 3pt w 5/2 wh

adding Snow Fairy. I do wonder if she is good enough via form with Midday, but think she should be closer to 10/1 tbh than 14/1 now she is a confirmed runner, and some firms offer 1/3 odds.

1pt ew Snow Fairy 14/1 1/3 odds.

5pts staked in the race now

2pts Sarafina 14/1 ante-post
0.5pt ew Testorone 100/1.

two i put up on purple in the week were atlantic 25s & nasri 18s for the challenge..
wiv ch on arctic, but may have small cover on tregonings hoss..with his massive record..
g/l lads...great weekends racing...

Putting your balls on the line with a 100/1 shot there, Sint [;)]

Prix Dollar

French Navy 1.5pt w 0.5pt pl pmu

Alright Plat. Hope your well.

yes it is an awful name for a horse innit. Just thought IF the going was as quick as feared then from a good draw the front runners of those near the pace might get a soft leaf and be hard to peg back like At First Sight was in the Derby. Worth a tickle at the prices.

Apparently they have overwatered. ..

* soft lead

Arc Day

Topping up time

Arc
2 pts win Meandre 14/1 bills

L'Abbaye
1 pt win Sole Power 8/1 bills
0.75 pts e/w T Trees 14/1 bills

Foret

1 pt e/w Bewitched 14/1 lads

gl all

nice one on TT Pebbles ! very game horse

Cheers sint :-)

+ 27.71 0 IP

Snow Fairy making the frame acually meant scraping a profit on the race.

korral sprint trophy

Racy 1pt win 12/1 bet3.65 .. took 14/1 at PP's, but they are only 10's now.

Caveat .. dry and mild weather forecast so possibility of being a NR if it is too quick, but given he loves York and chances to win this season are running out they may chance it.

Up two pounds for his last run sint, what do you think? Looked the winner last time alright but the return to 6 furlongs is the concern for me. Will probably still back him though

the return to 6f is a slight concern I agree, but he was staying on strongly (racing post comments) over 5 on GS and actually won his maiden over a stiff 6 at Ponte. The trip is of small concern but I suspect they will hold him a bit like last time. All I know is he is in the form of his life at the moment so will back him wherever he runs. 2lbs is nothing imo, with a clear run he'd have won comfortably imo and gone up 6 or 7.

Middle Park Stakes - Samminder 1pt EW 16/1, VC.

added a further 0.5pt ew on Samminder same terms etc.

Dewhurst - Spiritual Star 2pts ew 8/1, 3.65.

Middle park - Saigon 4win 1place @16s lads

At last a top jock on board

Korral Sprint - 2pts EW Racy 10/1 Lads NRNB.

Julie Burke takes off 5lb , I suspect because Makin is at Newmarket. She has 22% strike rate for trainer so not concerned tbh, just the trip is a small ??

3.05 york

0.5 points ew Harrison George @ 16/1 1/4 1234 vc bet
0.5 points ew Snow Bay @ 18/1 1/4 1234 Billys

Cesarewitch

1 point ew Sentry Duty @ 14/1 1/4 12345 spoilsports

Cesarewitch - 1pt EW Bow To No One 33/1, 3.65,5 places.

^ backed him the last few times...this jock has been on...fantastic record...but blew out @ ascot lto....not sure he's up to this but may have a small cover if i get cold feet

yeah read Martin Lane on twitter, said she just did not pick up. Not confident she might be going backwards

Challenge
3 pts win Strong Suit 6/4 lads

Middle Park
2pts win Bapak Chinta 11/2 bills

D'hst
2 pts win Bronterre 7/2 lads

Cez
?

Gl all

Two for the Ces
Sentry Duty 2pt w 16/1 cor
Beyond 2pt w 14/1 lad

Newmarket 5.35

Dux Scholar 3pt w 7/2 sj

added 1pt Win Most Improved 8/1 3.65

4.40 York

1 point ew Los Nadis @ 12/1 1/4 123 bet365 bog

poor saturdya for me, really needed Racy to win and it looked like he might

Irish Ces - 2pts ew Minsk 6/1, PP. 0.5pt ew Tawaagg 20/1, lads.

One step forwards two steps back at the moment!

+33.71 0 IP

a total shot in the dark

0.5pt ew Poets Voice Champion Stakes 40/1, sly bet.

Breeders Cup Mile - Storng Suit 2pts ew 5/1, billies.

QE2 w/o Frankel - 3pts Win Excellebration 2/1, blu sqr.

+25.71 8 IP

Fillies & Mares - Meeznah 1pt ew 12/1, PP.

added 0.5pt ew Meeznah 12/1, billies. Dettori booked now just hope there is no more rain/watering!!

+22.71 11 IP

Sprint Stakes - 1pt ew Ladies are Forever 25/1, billies. 1/4 odds 3 places only.

Sprint Stakes

2 points ew Society Rock @ 6/1 1/4 123 bet365

Champion Stakes

3 point win Nathaniel @ 13/2 PP

Doubts about trip and ground BUT imo he is the best horse in the race, as such I cannot let him go unbacked at the price

Caulfield Cup - Saptapadi 0.5pt ew 25/1, billies

Long Distance Cup

4 point win Opinion Poll @ 5/2 Badblokes

Champion Stakes
4 pts win SYT 5/2 lads

Sprint

4 pts win Moonlight Cloud 7/2 bills

Champion Stakes

0.5 point win Casamento @ 33/1 PP

1.50 ascot

COLOUR VISION 14/1 freely available
3 WIN 2 PLACE

SO YOU THINK
5/2 4 POINT WIN

Last roll of the dice before I turn my attention to posting losers on the jumps thread

Ascot
1:50 Fame & Glory 5pt win 7/2 general
3:00 Banimpire 2pt win 9/1 general
3:35 Dick Turpin 2pt e/w 25/1 general
4:10 So You Think 5pt win 5/2 general

Well done to those of you who have stuck at it all season and managed to find a few winners.

cheveton..was my biggest bet of the flat this season....

lucky numbers @ catt...will be getting close by off time...dbl figs on bf atm

Twice Over 1pt ew 16/1,sj if that stll exists. The phone's playing up

Wd with Fame and Glory iron cat. Wtf happened with him on his last two starts
Better ground, return to Ascot, or was O'Brien just fa nnying around with him??

Canadian International

2 point win Arctic Cosmos @ 11/2 SJ

+ 28.71 4 IP

wd Iron Cat.

Apoc, AOB was getting him fit on the racetrack the last twice

5.20 Naas Princeton Plains 2pts ew 9/2 lads.

Cheers Sint & APOC

Not the grand finale that I had hoped for but nice to get a winner.  Final balance -19 Good job I didn't put many selections up otherwise it could have been much worse!

No idea what happened to F&G in his last couple of runs, APOC.  Suspect that he may need 2 miles these days?  I wondered that after he made heavy weather of that listed race back in May.  Doesn't really seem to make sense though seeing as he was top class over a mile & a half at 3 and 4.  Maybe a different approach to his training this season?  Who knows!

3.45 Donny Madany 1.5pt ew 33/1, b0yles,billies etc

2.00 Donny Racy 3pt Win 2pt place, 9/1, billies.

Joined you on this one sint, hopefully todays the day.

2.00 Donny

3 point win racy @ 8/1 365

Added a further half point courtesy of a free bet from 365

One race too many for Racy Apoc

several firms offering 5 places on the Melbourne Cup, so allied with a decent draw (14 of last 16 winners have been drawn 7-14) I have plumped for two obvious runners.

1.25pts ew Dunaden 7/1, 1.25pts ew Lucas Cranach 11/1, Lads.

+11.71 10 IP :(

had a few quid on Saptapadi too fwiw.

1st and 3rd sint, top bombing

I thought my 80/1 on Red Cadeaux had come in there

November handicap

1 point ew Kiama Bay @ 14/1 1/4 1234 bet365

Yup, so did I!

Strong Suit next up 

WD sint

nice work sint

you can guess who i was on

anyone think brigantin is a mahoosive price for the marathon????

I'm afraid I don't know too much about Dirt racing trev, though on his staying form in France-beat the melbourne cup winner- he would have to go close if he handles the surface.
Is he bred for it??
I would imagine he would start a far bigger price on the US tote than the current 8/1 here?

Any thoughts on the BC Turf?

I would have been really sweet on Await the Dawn, but the serious setback he suffered and subsequent long lay off make him unbackable for me
Midday looks the most likely to run to form, her experience of these race conditions should ensure she finishes placed at least imo

BC Filly + Mare Turf

2.5 points ew Announce @ 5/1 1/4 123 PP

Not looked Trev but i'd probably back Meeznah in that for the umpteenth time this season.

Apoc, I take the opposite view on ATD. Comes he fresh and positive AOB has elected for an American based Jockey. V.competitive though.

BC Classic

2pts Win Havre De Grace 9/2,various.

1pt EW Stay Thirsty 16/1, blu bear.

+25.72 8 IP

Nov H'cap.
Status Symbol 1.5pt ew 18/1, sly-bet.

You been listening to the pieman sint ?

Not often LL but did catch his piece earlier today on ATR.

re the horse, she will like conditions etc and his form in his last two runs, ofcourse she is 6 now but over half the field is 5+ so 18/1 worth a smash.

I strongly disagree with his comments on Willing Foe, though. He thinks that horse was 100% fit lto and there is no reason to think he'd improve. SBS likes to give some of his a run, but my concern would be the Soft going.

* has found form on last two runs

Juv Fillies

My Miss Aurelia 3pt w 3/1 wh

F&M Turf

Stacelita 2pt w 10/3 coral

BC Mile

Goldikova 4pt w 5/2 lad

Nice win last night scott

Badblokes 5/2 on Goldi They will get battered at that price. I expect her to go off around 11/8 tonight.

wd CH. Classy winner she was/

BC Mile

5 point win Goldikova @ 5/2 badblokes

She has just been cut to 7/4 as we speak

Surprised it lasted so long, was contemplating going in again!

Me too.


I signed in at around 11am and never thought it would be still available, couldn't resist when I'd seen they were still 5/2.

I thought it would last for about 15 min tbh.

Maybe a throwaway but Principle Role must be better than this lot so

Principle Role 2pt w 5/2 b365

1.55 St Cloud, 3pts Mandaen 11/8 bills.

ling 2.15
sillah 0.5 e/w 14/1
elshabkiya 0.5 pt e/w 9/1 both hills

+26.84 0 IP

3.15 Lingers Mountain Range 1pt ew 5/1, lads.

Last bets of the 2012 Flat pour moi.

HK Cup 2pts Ambitious Dragon 2/1 Lads.

HK Vase 1pt ew Vadamar 8/1 PP.

+20.84 4 IP.

I do have Sichuan Succes for the HK Mile at 28's but wont take any credit for that whatsoever as someone on twitter flagged it up. But I have backed him.