2011 Lincoln 2 April 2011

This may be of use to some. I have given the top rated 9-10 (Penitent) and calculated the weights of the others using the ORs. When Very Wise won the race, the lowest weight carried was 8-6.

Date	RaceTime	Course	Distance	RCN	FORM	SFHorse	AGE	Weight	OR	TS	RPR	HorseName
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	1	17125-	Penitent	5	9-10	113	100	116	PENITENT
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	2	36010-	Harrison George	6	9-7	110	101	113	HARRISON GEORGE(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	3	63112-	Nideeb	4	9-4	107	95	105	NIDEEB
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	4	46825-	The Cheka	5	9-4	107	88	110	THE CHEKA(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	5	24944-	Iver Bridge Lad	4	9-2	105	103	111	IVER BRIDGE LAD
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	6	12221-	Fathsta	6	9-0	103	107	107	FATHSTA(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	7	21107-	Nationalism	4	8-13	102	89	108	Nationalism
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	8	10006-	Castles In The Air	6	8-13	102	91	109	CASTLES IN THE AIR
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	9	05100-	Axiom	7	8-12	101	104	110	AXIOM
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	10	11/64-	Shamali	6	8-10	99	96	102	SHAMALI
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	11	30/10-	Splendorinthegrass	5	8-9	98	67	72	SPLENDORINTHEGRASS(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	12	44520-	Mass Rally	4	8-8	97	92	104	MASS RALLY(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	13	36530-	Light From Mars	6	8-8	97	99	104	LIGHT FROM MARS
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	14	41/59-	Fremont	4	8-8	97	67	84	FREMONT(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	15	142-32	Lowther	6	8-8	97	76	89	LOWTHER
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	16	15592-	Docofthebay	7	8-8	97	95	100	DOCOFTHEBAY(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	17	21211-	Suited And Booted	4	8-7	96	96	100	SUITED AND BOOTED(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	18	06153-	Irish Heartbeat	6	8-7	96	95	102	IRISH HEARTBEAT(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	19	93000-	Wannabe King	5	8-7	96	86	101	WANNABE KING
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	20	00700-	Tartan Gigha	6	8-7	96	81	101	TARTAN GIGHA(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	21	31-111	Dubai Hills	5	8-6	95	70	70	DUBAI HILLS
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	22	78107-	Kiwi Bay	6	8-6	95	87	100	KIWI BAY
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	23	10036-	Cockney Class	4	8-6	95	75	98	COCKNEY CLASS(USA)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	24	60037-	Brae Hill	5	8-6	95	83	98	BRAE HILL(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	25	00860-	Al Muheer	6	8-6	95	84	99	AL MUHEER(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	26	01006-	Prime Exhibit	6	8-6	95	86	96	PRIME EXHIBIT
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	27	86050-	Prince Of Dance	5	8-6	95	75	99	PRINCE OF DANCE
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	28	0/116-	Taqleed	4	8-6	95	97	103	TAQLEED(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	29	04325-	Charlie Cool	8	8-5	94	92	98	CHARLIE COOL
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	30	48144-	Our Joe Mac	4	8-5	94	86	99	OUR JOE MAC(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	31	30559-	Dream Lodge	7	8-5	94	87	106	DREAM LODGE(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	32	06222-	Eton Rifles	6	8-5	94	94	101	ETON RIFLES(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	33	64521-	Gunner Lindley	4	8-4	93	99	99	GUNNER LINDLEY(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	34	13181-	Brick Red	4	8-4	93	83	97	BRICK RED
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	35	12061-	Dance And Dance	5	8-4	93	90	99	DANCE AND DANCE(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	36	5540-6	Georgebernardshaw	6	8-4	93	85	102	GEORGEBERNARDSHAW(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	37	0806-7	Greyfriarschorista	4	8-4	93	107	107	GREYFRIARSCHORISTA
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	38	23869-	Manassas	6	8-4	93	87	101	MANASSAS(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	39	064-11	Bravo Echo	5	8-3	92	80	85	BRAVO ECHO
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	40	55287-	Vainglory	7	8-3	92	90	99	VAINGLORY(USA)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	41	6125-	Eton Forever	4	8-3	92	79	95	Eton Forever(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	42	6000-	Pleasant Day	4	8-3	92	95	95	PLEASANT DAY(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	43	41131-	Kalk Bay	4	8-3	92	85	89	Kalk Bay(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	44	42280-	Kyllachy Star	5	8-3	92	81	100	KYLLACHY STAR
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	45	77530-	Camerooney	8	8-2	91	81	97	CAMEROONEY
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	46	22750-	Breakheart	4	8-2	91	97	98	BREAKHEART(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	47	04040-	Hacienda	4	8-2	91	73	100	Hacienda(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	48	15260-	Smarty Socks	7	8-2	91	89	98	SMARTY SOCKS(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	49	1100-	Uphold	4	8-1	90	64	95	UPHOLD
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	50	13312-	Pintura	4	8-1	90	95	95	PINTURA
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	51	2001-	Medicinal Compound	4	8-1	90	86	95	MEDICINAL COMPOUND
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	52	21410-	Justonefortheroad	5	8-1	90	93	95	JUSTONEFORTHEROAD
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	53	17310-	Oriental Scot	4	8-1	90	85	96	ORIENTAL SCOT
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	54	24215-	Mata Keranjang	4	8-1	90	84	92	MATA KERANJANG(USA)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	55	22111-	Norman Orpen	4	8-0	89	65	68	Norman Orpen(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	56	63621-	South Cape	8	8-0	89	86	94	SOUTH CAPE
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	57	8216-	The Fifth Member	7	8-0	89	87	95	THE FIFTH MEMBER(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	58	77000-	Marajaa	9	7-13	88	79	91	MARAJAA(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	59	1/060-	Champagne Style	4	7-13	88	53	61	CHAMPAGNE STYLE(USA)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	60	650-27	Good Again	5	7-13	88	82	97	GOOD AGAIN
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	61	56365-	Highland Knight	4	7-13	88	77	93	HIGHLAND KNIGHT(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	62	00297-	The Osteopath	8	7-12	87	86	98	THE OSTEOPATH(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	63	409-18	Reve De Nuit	5	7-12	87	82	94	Reve De Nuit(USA)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	64	31554-	Linnens Star	4	7-12	87	70	92	Linnens Star(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	65	14269-	King Of Windsor	4	7-12	87	75	95	KING OF WINDSOR(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	66	01311-	Nazreef	4	7-12	87	84	88	NAZREEF
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	67	2117-	Dhaamer	4	7-12	87	93	94	Dhaamer(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	68	24125-	Sir George	6	7-12	87	88	93	SIR GEORGE(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	69	652-01	Avon River	4	7-11	86	84	85	AVON RIVER
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	70	10300-	Doctor Zhivago	4	7-11	86	86	93	DOCTOR ZHIVAGO
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	71	2/143-	Call To Reason	4	7-11	86	83	91	CALL TO REASON(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	72	82304-	Directorship	5	7-11	86	87	94	DIRECTORSHIP
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	73	00215-	Signor Verdi	4	7-11	86	74	94	SIGNOR VERDI
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	74	55040-	Academy Blues	6	7-10	85	93	93	ACADEMY BLUES(USA)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	75	17601-	Noguchi	6	7-10	85	55	64	Noguchi(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	76	2307-4	Beauchamp Viceroy	7	7-10	85	86	110	BEAUCHAMP VICEROY
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	77	68242-	Abergavenny	4	7-10	85	90	93	Abergavenny
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	78	6837-3	Layline	4	7-9	84	75	92	LAYLINE(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	79	50036-	Viva Vettori	7	7-9	84	69	89	VIVA VETTORI
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	80	2/126-	Xilerator	4	7-9	84	72	91	XILERATOR(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	81	4-2214	Buaiteoir	5	7-8	83	30	60	BUAITEOIR(FR)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	82	52540-	Satwa Laird	5	7-8	83	93	93	SATWA LAIRD
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	83	33022-	Duster	4	7-8	83	82	88	DUSTER
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	84	00979-	Extraterrestrial	7	7-8	83	86	87	EXTRATERRESTRIAL
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	85	53-120	Follow The Flag	7	7-8	83	73	88	FOLLOW THE FLAG(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	86	12056-	Tartan Trip	4	7-8	83	72	88	TARTAN TRIP
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	87	10478-	Kay Gee Be	7	7-7	82	95	93	KAY GEE BE(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	88	17-133	Kilburn	7	7-7	82	75	79	KILBURN
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	89	02217-	West End Lad	8	7-5	80	72	84	WEST END LAD
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	90	12133-	First Post	4	7-5	80	85	86	FIRST POST(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	91	211-91	Blue Moon	4	7-5	80	55	77	Blue Moon
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	92	349-72	Bawaardi	5	7-4	79	84	86	BAWAARDI(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	93	722-34	Miami Gator	4	7-4	79	77	79	MIAMI GATOR(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	94	544-12	Ours	8	7-3	78	71	78	OURS(FR)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	95	544-12	Ours	8	7-3	78	71	78	OURS(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	96	615-15	Zebrano	5	7-3	78	66	80	ZEBRANO
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	97	32-211	The Lock Master	4	7-1	76	63	79	THE LOCK MASTER(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	98	22029-	Mutamaleq	4	7-0	75	67	74	MUTAMALEQ(IRE)
02/04/11	03:05	Newmarket(JC)	1M3Y	99	90097-	Karaka Jack	4	7-0	75	66	83	KARAKA JACK

Does anyone know anything about the trainer Ed Walker?

I have found the info. Walker, who was assistant to Luca Cumani for four seasons, moved into the historic St Gatien Stables in Newmarket last month, taking over 24 boxes.

Before coming to Newmarket, Walker had a two-year spell with Roger Charlton and also worked with Richard Gibson in France after finishing his course at the Royal Agricultural College in Cirencester.  Walker also worked for a short time with Ian Balding.

riggins his first winner (i think).

Great piece of work Stow .. now what do you fancy. Give it to me in one.

3 Interest me after an initial look:

Kalk Bay
Suited & Booted
Eton Forever

At this very early stage I like the look of Taqleed. He seems to be the stand out horse from the "lightly raced 4 year old" category that has proven profitable to follow in recent times. Infact the last six winners of the race when it's been run at Doncaster have been 4 year olds. Taqleed is trained by John Gosden who sent Expresso Star to victory in this two years ago, so he knows how to ready one. He was impressive on his first two starts last term and then finished a very creditable sixth in the Cambridgeshire on only his fourth racecourse appearance. He is beautifully bred and it looks to me like there is even more to come from him now he is maturing with age. He is sitting on a handy mark of 95 for this and could easily prove to be much better than that mark in time. So with age, improvement and talent on his side I'd be plumping for him at present at around the 16/1 mark.

I started a thread for the Lincoln earlier

Had a very quick look through the entries and the two I like, though no idea if they are intended runners are:

Call To Reason - J.Noseda @ 16/1

Taqleed - J.Gosden @ 14/1

Both lightly raced improving sorts from top yards who have decent records in the heritage handicaps. Both horses were impressive winners on their seasonal bows last year (admittedly only in maidens) so first time out could be the best time to catch them.

I always like Gosden and Barry Hills runners in this as they have a history of 'readying one' for the Lincoln. So Taqleed, Nationalism and Gunner Lindley are my initial 3 picks e/w.

sorry uncle, I did not see your thread

No problem - I spelt 'handicap' wrong anyway so probably best it sinks to the bottom

Whilst at first glance the form looks at best patchy, Fremont of Hannon's interests me. The fact that the Hannon/Wood team have kept it as a four year old suggests they must think it has ability. Interested to see if it has been gelded.

Doctor crane 14-1. Gosden can get em ready

I like the look of Prince of Dance. Was hoping that he was going to get into this race last year but his owners went to the Lockinge where he failed miserably but he was good enough to win a listed race at 3.

Irish Heartbeat maybe a couple of pounds to high but could be worth a play if i can get 20s(16s best at mo)

I like the look of Prime Exhibit @ 20/1 with only a few pound extra than he carried in last years renewel in finishing a excellent 2nd. Hopefully Fahey will lay him out for the race. He is the ew steal. imo

don't understand that logic. he's higher than when he was beaten in the race last year, so realistically a place is the best you can hope for.

Yes Darren, Prime Exhibit is running of a higher rating (4lb) you might be right about a place finish. Horses can improve with age and i can see Prime Exhibit being one. So at this early stage I am sticking with Prime Exhibit. Hopefully he will have a nice pipe opener on the a-w like he did last season which will put him spot on for this years race.

I agree that the Gosden entries are as good a place to start as any.

Taqleed struck me as being more of a 10f+ performer in the making - against that many better judges thought otherwise last autumn. However I have bigger concerns about Nationalism (last run) and Doctor Crane (owned by Mrs G, quite well backed for last year's renewal but hasnt run for almost 2 years now). 16/1 e/w Taqleed will do for now pending more info on running plans.

this thread is phucked because you cant read half what has been posted thanks to the graph at the bottom!

Weights now out.

Still like Taqleed the most and 14/1 has been taken Still have no idea if it is an intended runner?

My other fancy Call To Reason may not get in off 8st.

Taqleed for me too. Progressive whilst the form is very solid.Backed him in the Cambridgeshire and he ran really well and I maybe being a bit critical but I thought he was ridden too close to strong pace that day.

Nationalism looked very classy at Goodwood and I think the mark is decent.Im happy to ignore his two final runs when poorly drawn in Cambridgeshire and his final race was a weird end of season race where you had to sit prominent.

I also like Our Joe Mac whose best form has come on soft ground and in bigger fields with stronger pace.

Will need soft ground for all three to probably best at their best.

Did anyone manage to get the 120/1 that Billy were offering yesterday about Taqleed?

Click on his name on Oddschecker to see what I mean!

Something wrong with Irish Heartbeat?

Out to 46 on here.

JOHN GOSDEN has warned punters that his William Hill Lincoln joint-favourite Taqleed is not certain to make it into the final line-up for the April 2 handicap at Doncaster.

Six of the front eight in the betting need others to come out if he is to make the final line-up with the Gosden-trained pair Nationalism and Doctor Crane the only two at the head of the betting guaranteed to make the final field of 22.

Gosden, who won the race in 2009 with Expresso Star said: "I see Taqleed is quite well fancied but he is not sure to get in. With these big, valuable handicaps you need to be rated 95 to get in

"Doctor Crane is in good form and I am pleased with him. Nationalism is doing fine and there is no reason why he won'trun."

Gosden, who also has the 87-rated Dhaamer entered, ruled out the possibility of going for the Lincoln Trial at Wolverhampton on March 19 with either Taqleed or Dhaamer. "They will go straight there or not at all," he added. "If they miss out on the Lincoln we could go for the consolation race."

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Something wrong with Irish Heartbeat?

Out to 46 on here.

Just spoke with Mr Fahey,he seems in good order(the horse that is) and the plan is to run

I hope Gosden declares Taqleed all the way to final decs, as if he gets balloted out then we at least get our antepost money back.

I'll still be a little surprised if he dosen't get in, especially if they really fancy him - Gosden could withdraw his other runners, and Maktoum has Fareer who he could pull out.

Thanks for the info, BITK.

no problem mate

interested to read r fahey planning to enter our joe mac for the irish lincoln.

If he gets in then the Barry Hills trained 'Gunner Lindlay' for me......

what's the max.no.of runners allowed ?

22 i think...

thanks

difficult to work out going. Forecast to be dry until mid-week at Donny but possibly wet after that. But how much rain will arrive, if any?

todays rp p 11- taqleed completed his preparation with a stylish workout on al bathatri gallop yesterday morning. can see this going off 3-1 on the day.

Tartan Gigha looks like a good EW bet to me having looked at the race card this morning! He has run two good races already this season on the all weather at Deauville and Wolverhampton and he's dropped to a rating of 96. If the weather stays dry I think this horse will love the faster going being by Green Desert! Mark Johnston seems to be in decent form as well at the moment and with Tartan Gigha fitting most of the trends the 33-1 at **** looks tempting!!!

Does anybody know if Mark Johnston has said whether he is a likely runner or not?

Tartan Gigha is a good horse and probably handicapped to win a race lacking progressive rivals, but he is a 9f horse, or extended 8. His chance will come at Newmarket or Epsom again, presuming he doesn't go up the ratings kin the mean time.

Yes your probably right Howellsy, all his better runs have been over 9f and Donny isn't one of the stiffest tracks!!! There have been some horses who have dropped back in trip to win the Lincoln in recent years, Expresso Star won a couple of 10f races and Blythe Knight was another that springs to mind!!!

The draw is another big concern as well!!!

Looks like there is a lot of rain around the Doncaster area Wednesday onwards!!! Tartan Gigha doesn't look that tempting now, I think I will wait for the draw and see where the pace is!!!

I would have to agree with crazyharrybaxter, if he got in and it came up soft Gunner Lindley would have a good chance!

The ground is pretty quick at the moment but obviously with rain around who knows what it'll be like come saturday- I'll have a jog around the course a couple of times over the next few days and feedback. The turf is very bare at the moment with (I think) far less grass cover than Lincoln day last year- which wasn't great. When I was last on the track on friday I had the feeling that there was slightly more grass on the stands side, but in truth it was almost uniformly poor.

Anyone know what de sousa rides???

Taqleed now guaranteed to get a run at number 20. Just want a nice draw now

What will "a nice draw" be Unc?

stalls 1-9 imo,

True Town Moor the grass covering looks baldish to bare in some places with more bare sprinkilings than plain old soil. Did you see that some nutter had tried to burn the water jump fence down and made a right old mess.

isn't it low draw if soft, high draw if GF ..

Downy/Sint, I'm not sure there is enough evidence yet on the draw since the track was relayed. I can see the stats re 6 of last 9 drawn low, but that isn't much of a sample, and consolation race run on same day often seems to throw a different result.
Liberator, I think the turf is the worst I've ever seen it. I was amazed that somebody was stupid enough to burn the fence, the racecourse is one of the few reasons anyone from outside would visit donny, and people try to damage it!

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Gunner Lindley for me, think many factors will be in favour...

I'm on GL, any news of some rain yet?

My guess is that Kalk Bay is still v. well hcapped but will he have the experience for a cavalry charge?

Irish Heartbeat looks the best of Fahey's but the fav. remains to me the one with the ticks in all the boxes.

Anyone know why Kalk Bay turned it in at newcastle,i like the horse but something is rather off putting whenever i watch that race again

trainer does not think kalk bay will get in.

Very light rain overnight, just a couple of mm, no further rain yet today.

fremont well fancied!!!!!!!!

Going by prices on here looks like Fareer, Doctor Crane, Penitent and Shamali all will not be declared. Looks like Donny hasn't received much rain this week and dry forecast over next few days. Ground on fast side of good possibly, which Fareer would have loved.

4/1 - 7/2 Taqleed now.

same price as Penitent last year

Actually, money lined up for Shemali so maybe he will run. Strange that Fareer looks like being taken out. Will Taqleed be ok on good ground possibly on the fast side? My only doubt.

If the going stick reading is reliable its nearly soft now, check out Turftrax for the history!!!

We had steady very light rain throught last night, which again amounted to a couple of mm. We now have very strong winds and a bright sunny afternoon so will be drying. Though I wouldn't disagree with the current going description.

Plenty of pace nearside with Brae Hill and Gunner Lindley and as the stalls are placed there id think that high is the place to be

spring mile will tell us a lot kalk bay in 1, eton forever in 16.

It should do but history is littered with misleading races on the same day, remember last year when they did the complete opposite in the two races

Indeed, the winners came from opposite sides last year.

The dark horse Fremont has the right profile for me - 12/1 not as good as 33/1 but will do for me, especially if Tom Segal picks one from each side 'cos Frement could well then be in the firing line.

what's peoples opinions of the draw ? fav drawn middle for diddle, ( 11 of 22 ). or do we wait till spring cup run ?

Spring Mile (know what you meant).

Can't say I like Taqleed's draw all that much. Should go low though, and I'd say that was the place to be.

Stupid question, what were the balloted out horses ?

*Having said that, fancy the fav.

Prince Of Dance from left field.

Light from Mars... whooooooosh.

Hugh Taylor tipped Light From Mars fyi.

not played in the race myself(except few shillings e/w Irish Heartbeat)but another plus for Light From Mars backers?

Queally 3/3 for yard

Prime Exhibit 3 pts
Prince Of Dance 1 pt
Castles In The Air 1 pt

Like the look of the low drawn horses, unless something weird happens in the opener I'd expect one of the low drawn horses to be winning this.

Out of those drawn 1-5 I cant have Tartan Gigha who wouldn't have beaten Prime Exhibit last time out without help in running and is now 4lbs worse off with the weight allowance for Prime's apprentice jockey who has won on the horse before. Also can't have the top weight.

The Eaton double could it happen?

:)

What a terrible decision to pull Taqleed out of the race at the last minute. Sweet Lightning shouldn't be winning a Lincoln. Taqleed would have won in my opinion if they had let it take it's chance a la Expresso Star under the same circumstances. Such a shame.

agreed VK

poor excuse imo pulling horses out on good ground

it was to do with the grass cover not firmness imo. they felt the ground was false.

obviously they think a lot of Raqleed and dont want him injured.

Yeh I can understand the reasoning but when he's backed down from 16/1 to 7/2 and then you get Sweet Lightning beating Brae Hill it does leave a bitter taste. You'd have to think he would have won if given the chance to show what he can do.

Gosden stating he didn't want punters to lose their money !! What about the fortunes backed at ante post - all gone !!The man really does have a touch of arrogance

The trainers first priority is to look after the horse for it's owner .
He felt the ground with the bare patches and sand was not suitable so withdrew the horse . Gosden shouldn't be slated just because punters ante-post bets went down the drain .If you back ante-post [ i don't ] then you are taking a big chance .The only thing i find a bit strange about all this is why he ran his other horse ?