The Nightingale - King George

are you saying you fancy The Nightingale to win the King George?

Yes, this one and Riverside Theatre add rather more interest to the W/O Kauto market, as both have been available there at quite nice prices up to now. He was 25/1 in the W/O Kauto market with some of the bookies when I looked earlier in the week, which also made quite a reasonable each way price in that market, I felt, albeit with the proviso he is still not a confirmed runner.

I respect your right to this opinion. RIverside Theatre ew without Kauto maybe but the Nightingale outright? As it's Christmas send the money  to Oxfam rather thnn lining the pockets of sone greedy layer on here.

I am not sure the original poster was referring to the outright market, Panto, just rightly reminding us that The Nightingale, if entered, would be among the top rated of those behind Kauto.

In the W/O Kauto market he might represent some each way value at 25/1, though clearly being taken out of the John Durkan doesn't necessarily mean the horse will be confirmed for Kempton. As second or third top rated in the likely line up, he would have to be priced at much shorter than 25/1 in the W/O Kauto market on the day, if taking his chance. That price offers plenty of options potentially for working the bet, if you are reasonably convinced at this stage he will turn up in the race.

I doubt he has the speed to trouble some of them and the forecast going may not be ideal, but against that he is more likely to be ridden in a way that, arguably, would enhance his chances of lasting home into a place.

Aka has made the point better than I did in the orignal post.  I simply think that we don't yet know how good this horse is and yet is still one of the top rated horse in the race outside Kauto.  This would be the first championship race that he will have run in that goes right handed and therefore, I suggest he could be even better than his mark.  Good enough to beat an on song Kauto - absolulety not, but certainly in my view a far better horse relative to the rest of the field than his price across a range of markets would suggest.  I feel that Nicholls would only turn down the opportunity of an excellent chance in the John Durkan (unless its injured)if the horse had a strong place chance in King George and his recent Betfair summary of his runners was pretty postive.

I am increasingly intrigued by this runner. Would n't be surprised if this thread ia at the top come boxing evening

me 3. no durkan show and v.quiet as chez nicholls re this runner.  he is normally very good at saying if one of his runners has had a setback and that's why he wont run (as far as i know, no reason offered for no durkan run)

i was only talking about this today

He won't run unless soft is in the description, and probably not if good is in there too.  Which is a shame, as I've been backing him since DR.

is it not going for the lexus,
are you not on naccarat at 8/1 without kauto

Good to see a positive write up in Nicholls column.  I really think this horse will get placed if the ground is soft and come the thaw (whenever that may be), surely the ground has to turn soft.

Yes, from a few things PN has said this season, he seems to have a pretty good opinion of this one generally, not just in relation to the KG.

Not sure they will be able to save the race for 26/27th December at Kempton, but the met office forecast for the area I looked at today suggested some small rise above freezing in daytime temperature towards the end of the work and the possibility of rain/sleet rather than snow over the weekend.