I read somewhere they were thinking of stepping Beachfire up to 1m4f, runs like he needs it...although the furious pace at 1m1f will suit, like it did Pipedreamer who had also only got to the front inside the final furlong over 1m2f on his previous start.
I read somewhere they were thinking of stepping Beachfire up to 1m4f, runs like he needs it...although the furious pace at 1m1f will suit, like it did Pipedreamer who had also only got to the front inside the final furlong over 1m2f on his previous s
That's my thinking rhinestone. Same with Caldercruix, a horse which likes a bit of cut and is still very green in his running style, needing a good gallop to run up to and then challenge without really knowing it's in a battle. Either that or it's not as good as I think, which is very possible
That's my thinking rhinestone. Same with Caldercruix, a horse which likes a bit of cut and is still very green in his running style, needing a good gallop to run up to and then challenge without really knowing it's in a battle. Either that or it's no
Turnip, I like him too. He won well last time at Newmarket. He's very well bred and has loads of potential. Only thing is, Gosden has a few entered for this and I'm just worried he won't run him in it.
Turnip, I like him too. He won well last time at Newmarket. He's very well bred and has loads of potential. Only thing is, Gosden has a few entered for this and I'm just worried he won't run him in it.
Thought Beachfire would need further than 10f myself, Fancied Forte Dei Marni for this event for a awful long time as a 9f cavalry Charge would be up its street, Now its come back down a couple of pounds you couldnt ignore Tartan Ghiga's 9f form either
Thought Beachfire would need further than 10f myself, Fancied Forte Dei Marni for this event for a awful long time as a 9f cavalry Charge would be up its street, Now its come back down a couple of pounds you couldnt ignore Tartan Ghiga's 9f form eith
Taken from Luca's site, i would wait on Forte for this reason
Forte Dei Marmi is probably due a fall next time judged on his form figures since reappearing in 2009 but it’s significant in our eyes that two of his lesser performances this year have come at York where the surface is inclined to get a bit loose on top and the official going descriptions, or those reported by the riders in general, don’t tally with the opinions provided by our own version of the ‘going stick’ which has served us well for many years. Back away from York, Forte Dei Marmi returned to winning ways with his best performance and from a handicapping perspective probably deserved the small rise in the weights that he has been given as a result. With Australia Day and Opera Gal taking each other on in front, he got the strong pace that suits him ideally and the manner in which he finished his race, going away at the finish, put to bed any doubts that he is a doubtful stayer at a mile and a quarter. His next objective, as it was probably always going to be anyway, is the Dubai Duty Free Heritage Handicap at Newbury, where he won earlier in the season, but any plans beyond that will have to wait until we see how he runs and how the handicapper responds. If he runs at Newbury, he won’t run in the Cambridgeshire – we tried that route with Monte Alto and he wasn’t the same horse afterwards.
Redal, i back quite a few Johnstone horses(never when they are short though) i think Below Zero will go close at Donny on Wednesday, and that Thebes will be winning again quite soon(preferably in a smaller field over 7f)
Taken from Luca's site, i would wait on Forte for this reasonForte Dei Marmi is probably due a fall next time judged on his form figures since reappearing in 2009 but it’s significant in our eyes that two of his lesser performances this year have c
Wow tt, Taqleed's 33's @ 365, had to have a go, too big...thought he was 16's ish gives me one that goes with cut, as I'm not sure Start Right wants cut..
Wow tt, Taqleed's 33's @ 365, had to have a go, too big...thought he was 16's ish gives me one that goes with cut, as I'm not sure Start Right wants cut..
RS,ZIL... AR,tt,earl plat , fft,gunny,TV,plat,nibble...all posting over there now. a few of us switching back & forth....but its been a graveyard overhere..so have found myself on there quite a bit lately.
RS,ZIL...AR,tt,earl plat , fft,gunny,TV,plat,nibble...all posting over there now.a few of us switching back & forth....but its been a graveyard overhere..so have found myself on there quite a bit lately.
MM, just thought that Buick took it wide to get a run there at Goodwood last time under a lot of urging, dont know if he can do it instantly as he may get stopped in a 9f charge, trainers knows how to win it though
MM, just thought that Buick took it wide to get a run there at Goodwood last time under a lot of urging, dont know if he can do it instantly as he may get stopped in a 9f charge, trainers knows how to win it though
Presumably Gosden, Johnston and others with multiple entries will wait and see what is going best nearer the time. I also am looking carefully at trainers like Simcock who has entries which haven't run for some time presumably to protect their mark.
Presumably Gosden, Johnston and others with multiple entries will wait and see what is going best nearer the time. I also am looking carefully at trainers like Simcock who has entries which haven't run for some time presumably to protect their mark.
tt, they won't let me on! It can't be because I have won too much I've sent them an email so hopefully will be on there soon if you lot don't mind me joining in
tt, they won't let me on!It can't be because I have won too muchI've sent them an email so hopefully will be on there soon if you lot don't mind me joining in
agree zilzal, took a lot of rousting, seems to be an idle horse, but with lots of ability, race could be over , by time he gets going. at the price i think its worth chancing.
agree zilzal, took a lot of rousting, seems to be an idle horse, but with lots of ability, race could be over , by time he gets going. at the price i think its worth chancing.
I'm in the Beachfire camp. I'm sure he could get a mile and a half but that's not necessarily a drawback in this race. I remember Clifton Fox doubling up in the November Handicap on soft after his Cambridgeshire win for the awesome Jeremy Glover. Nice to see his name back in the trainers list. Rambo's Hall...happy days. We were dancing in the streets of Retford.
I'm in the Beachfire camp. I'm sure he could get a mile and a half but that's not necessarily a drawback in this race. I remember Clifton Fox doubling up in the November Handicap on soft after his Cambridgeshire win for the awesome Jeremy Glover. Nic
Start Right for me so far as at least Luca has signposted him as a likely runner on his site. The number of runners make this a pretty poor e/w race so even if 1/4 1st 6 is available on the day I will probably look for 1 or 2 others win only.
Not blown away by Cityscape's performance on Saturday as the runner-up and his jockey made a most unfortunate partnership.
While I like both of the Gosden horses mentioned on here I'm not convinced either would be ideally suited by the drop back in trip. Against that neither of them have been entered in the valuable 10f at Newbury on the 18th - which is interesting.
Finally Absinthe looked impressive when beating little at Windsor. Connections skipped the opportunity to run in a decent race the following weekend and may be aiming her at this. Unclepuncle might have some insight here as he is often on the ball with this stable.
Morning all.Start Right for me so far as at least Luca has signposted him as a likely runner on his site. The number of runners make this a pretty poor e/w race so even if 1/4 1st 6 is available on the day I will probably look for 1 or 2 others win o
I've been following Sandor off a cliff this season so he's my only bet so far at 38 - can't see him being any bigger than about 16/1 on the day if he runs, though I expect they will go to the Newbury race first.
I've been following Sandor off a cliff this season so he's my only bet so far at 38 - can't see him being any bigger than about 16/1 on the day if he runs, though I expect they will go to the Newbury race first.
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Thanks for reading sir tom.
Julius Caesar ( JC 100 BC ) Joined: 13 Jul 09Replies: 1492 06 Sep 10 12:48 Betfair eddie already booked for wallys. Bullet cant do the weight. Rain would be nice Thanks for reading sir tom.
'Beachfire & Clockmaker are unlikely to run. The others remain possibles, but a lot is down to the weights and getting in the race.'
I've looked at the weights and Taqleed and Nationalism are on 8-5, whilst High Twelve is on 8-2.
TV, he said;'Beachfire & Clockmaker are unlikely to run. The others remain possibles, but a lot is down to the weights and getting in the race.'I've looked at the weights and Taqleed and Nationalism are on 8-5, whilst High Twelve is on 8-2.
Fair Trade has a massive chance,thought good enough to contest a classic at the start of the year he has the potential to a group horse judged on several efforts this season notably when an eyecatching fourth behind the highly progressive sea lord and the subsequent group 2 winner poets voice in a group 3 on his latest start.Added to this he represents a yard who have had success in this twice in the non to distant past
Fair Trade has a massive chance,thought good enough to contest a classic at the start of the year he has the potential to a group horse judged on several efforts this season notably when an eyecatching fourth behind the highly progressive sea lord an
Was a bit surprised they ran Sandor in the Sandown race - guess they were looking for a win rather than running for place money in the big Newbury hanidcap that was run today. He seems to find one or two too good each time and maybe is pretty exposed now but the Sandown race that Forte dei Marmi won has worked out really well with Forte and Elliptical fighting out the big handicap today and Jo'Burg winning at York, so I haven't given up hope of a decent run from Sandor, and hopefully the unique demands of the Cambridgeshire will suit him.
I've also had a little nibble on Jo'Burg at 70 just in case he goes for the race.
Was a bit surprised they ran Sandor in the Sandown race - guess they were looking for a win rather than running for place money in the big Newbury hanidcap that was run today. He seems to find one or two too good each time and maybe is pretty exposed
This lookes to be for taqeel,with connections keeping top weight in,well drawn,will inprove and go on ground+I liked the way R.Hills gave the knowing wink when interviewed today.
This lookes to be for taqeel,with connections keeping top weight in,well drawn,will inprove and go on ground+I liked the way R.Hills gave the knowing wink when interviewed today.
1 Look for a progressive and unexposed horse to win or even place, That probably means a 3yo (only if good enough) or 4yo that has not had many runs.. The winner is very likely to be group horse in waiting.
2 Old timers have little chance of even placing, unless there are few progressive horses in the race. Lay anything that hasn't shown its best form on the day of race ground condtions, or non-stayers
3 Selections must have proven they can stay 10f or at very least that 8f has seemed inadequate.
4 Big strong galloping types should be preferred, and big weights for this type of 3yo should not deter.
FWIW, here are some notes I made last year.1 Look for a progressive and unexposed horse to win or even place, That probably means a 3yo (only if good enough) or 4yo that has not had many runs.. The winner is very likely to be group horse in waitin
Emirates Dream for me, looks like he's improving again now (only beaten just over a length by the Arc fav BEHKABAD last year), he's near the top of my handicap, fits all the stats for this and looks value for me at 18/1.
Frankie will trying to win the weekends big handicap for the 3rd week in a row and Godolphin have a very good record in handicaps.
Good luck...
Emirates Dream for me, looks like he's improving again now (only beaten just over a length by the Arc fav BEHKABAD last year), he's near the top of my handicap, fits all the stats for this and looks value for me at 18/1.Frankie will trying to win the
Pendragon 140.0 win, 22.0 place. Just cause he's one I've been following. Never run on soft is a worry.Improving 7 y o, low weight and at the price, I'll take a chance.
Pendragon 140.0 win, 22.0 place. Just cause he's one I've been following. Never run on soft is a worry.Improving 7 y o, low weight and at the price, I'll take a chance.