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why has a trainers surname come up as starts
its Bart C u m m ings |
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First official Order of Entry for the three features here:-
http://www.racingvictoria.net.au/p_Feature_Races_.aspx The one for the Melbourne Cup is below. Position in the Order Of Entry is on the left. If there is no number there, then the horse hasn't passed the qualifying clause yet. Number on the right is prizemoney since 1st Aug 2008. Eastern Aria will have gone up a place or two after today's victory. 1 Alandi 781165 So You Think 2376850 Not qualified 2 Cavalryman 2110215 3 Shocking 4143525 4 Rite Of Passage 365974 5 Shoot Out 1571950 Metal Bender 1507350 Not qualified 6 Campanologist 758685 7 Zipping 1874000 8 Monaco Consul 1278355 9 Rebel Raider 1247290 10 Profound Beauty 614008 11 Mr Medici 2348423 12 Faint Perfume 1436290 13 Illustrious Blue 336994 14 Sans Frontieres 240028 15 Tokai Trick 1468108 16 Dariana 445165 17 Zabrasive 441050 18 Once Were Wild 312150 19 Tactic 168078 20 Zavite 1677766 21 Master O'Reilly 973250 22 Harris Tweed 724919 23 C'Est La Guerre 694250 Triple Honour 637950 Not qualified 24 Buccellati 561361 25 Manighar 502343 26 Jessicabeel 464900 27 Americain 424398 28 Descarado 331183 29 Doctor Fremantle 280283 30 Bauer 971324 31 Vigor 877675 32 Black Mamba 796454 33 Red Ruler 681982 34 Mourayan 485802 35 Alcopop 384055 36 Speed Gifted 366108 Small Minds 305045 Not qualified 37 Holberg 190468 38 Extra Zero 597250 39 Drunken Sailor 503660 40 No Wine No Song 243750 41 Capecover 757596 42 Chartreux 469442 Trusting 371700 Not qualified 43 Akmal 362686 44 Keep The Peace 345261 45 Valdemoro 341888 46 Miss Keepsake 327656 Linton 210400 Not qualified 47 Moatize 501330 48 Lords Ransom 441400 49 Eastern Aria 396004 50 Hissing Sid 341080 51 Newport 810900 Doubtful Jack 483665 Not qualified 52 Once More Dubai 275581 Fanjura 264134 Not qualified Herculian Prince 212186 Not qualified 53 Above Average 171062 54 Largo Lad 509488 55 Run For Naara 256380 56 Sterling Prince 247794 Moudre 188450 Not qualified Pompeyano 175596 Not qualified Gorky Park 700 Not qualified Empires Choice 0 Not qualified 57 Persian Star 321846 58 Darley Sun 318634 59 Precedence 298970 The Hombre 156224 Not qualified Count Encosta 143150 Not qualified 60 Laristan 130522 61 Lady Eclair 103124 Libel Law 97799 Not qualified Snow Alert 399200 Not qualified 62 Scouting Wide 339080 Apprehend 297542 Not qualified 63 Berlioz 288425 Right Fong 249695 Not qualified 64 Booming 237651 65 Phaze Action 236468 Sainthood 223080 Not qualified Avienus 204438 Not qualified Ghostmilk 197656 Not qualified 66 Get Up Jude 174050 67 Ajhar 163840 Emblem Of Liberty 160241 Not qualified 68 Nothin' Leica Cat 153870 Miles Above 145729 Not qualified Our Cannavaro 145688 Not qualified 69 Exceptionally 145457 70 Becqu Adoree 138252 Montahlia 131101 Not qualified 71 Sopranist 126090 Salinas 121235 Not qualified 72 Basaltico 119663 Montjeu Madame 118025 Not qualified Golden Charmer 115785 Not qualified 73 Warringah 103804 Niptious 101328 Not qualified Martial Law 98429 Not qualified 74 Mr Charlie 96826 Muir (Johann Zoffany) 96005 Not qualified Stanstill 89497 Not qualified Token Of Honour 87626 Not qualified Star Ripper 86910 Not qualified Macedonian 81001 Not qualified Saint Encosta 78675 Not qualified 75 Gallant Lady 78400 Naadji 75738 Not qualified 76 Rundle 74900 Landlord 72900 Not qualified Triumphant Choice 72225 Not qualified Well Rounded 69270 Not qualified Jeuneys End 67095 Not qualified Zantelagh 66875 Not qualified Imposing 59715 Not qualified Ocean Dream 58675 Not qualified Joe Blow 58530 Not qualified Landlocked 56320 Not qualified Miss Alia 51800 Not qualified Olympic Win 51350 Not qualified My Bentley 51008 Not qualified 77 Sea Galleon 49540 Majestic Concorde 48186 Not qualified Hastein 44420 Not qualified Maluckyday 44186 Not qualified Sherpa Tenzing 44155 Not qualified Happy Spirit 43683 Not qualified 78 Fairfield Flame 39892 Brightnight 39850 Not qualified 79 Akzar 37374 Gothic Crown 33430 Not qualified Billson 30242 Not qualified Smokin' Gun 29151 Not qualified Home On A Wing 26360 Not qualified Crocodile Canyon 24766 Not qualified Cedarberg 24267 Not qualified Our Aristocrat 22900 Not qualified King Of Mountains 21885 Not qualified Anudjawun 17825 Not qualified Cats Fun 16250 Not qualified Ballygoran 15887 Not qualified Nazabeel 15887 Not qualified Lethal Arrow 13725 Not qualified Zabdued 12880 Not qualified Irel 12441 Not qualified Wow 3841 Not qualified |
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I was thinking that following my mention of Gai that I ought to post this article:-
Gai Waterhouse tells how Tulloch Lodge almost went broke * Ray Thomas * From: The Daily Telegraph * September 10, 2010 12:00AM THE knives were out. She had lost her Sydney trainers premiership title, the winners had dried up and the business was under financial pressure. This was to be a seminal moment for Gai Waterhouse. Success had followed her everywhere and criticism was largely foreign to a trainer more used to widespread acclaim. But instead of ignoring her detractors, Waterhouse took a more pragmatic view of the situation. "The criticism didn't upset me because it was true - we weren't getting the results," Waterhouse said in a remarkable admission. "So, it was pretty simple, I had to train more winners. To do that, I knew I had to change things around because if I didn't we would have gone broke." Waterhouse might have been a little melodramatic - she used to tread the boards as a television and stage actress after all - but her point was well made and revealing. Using the criticism as motivation, Waterhouse has "gone back to basics" and the famous production line of winners out of Tulloch Lodge has roared back to life in recent weeks. She led in a hat-trick of winners at Royal Randwick last Saturday including the Chelmsford Stakes and Furious Stakes and has another powerful team of runners at Rosehill Gardens tomorrow. Her all-star team is led by glamour mare More Joyous in the Group Two $200,000 Theo Marks Stakes, Melbourne Cup hopefuls Herculian Prince (Group Three $125,000 Kingston Town Stakes) and Descarado (Theo Marks), Montana Flyer (Group Three $125,000 Research Stakes) and unbeaten Halekulani (Listed $120,000 Heritage Stakes). But really there wasn't much wrong to start with. Racing's first lady still had a 2009/10 season most trainers would love to have - leading in 137 wins in total, 73 in Sydney and five at Group One Level. But she endured a quiet winter with only a handful of runners and winners, sparking the criticism. Waterhouse's comeback probably began to materialise the day she won an extraordinary 17 heats at a Randwick barrier trial session early in August. The trainer likes to test her horses in trials but this was something else again. However, the reality is she had been plotting the resurgence for some weeks, according to her husband, leading bookmaker Rob Waterhouse. "Gai is an extraordinary person, she's always so positive, but probably her biggest problem is she is too nice and can't say no to anyone," he revealed. "She always gives 100 per cent in everything she does but now she is giving more of her herself to training her horses. In Gai's business, as a horse trainer you really need to be right on top of things or it just doesn't work. "She's a great trainer and it was just a matter of getting her priorities right again." The couple were holidaying overseas in June when the trainer determined how she would turn the stable's fortunes around. "I remember saying to Rob that when we returned home I was going to roll up my sleeves, get back to the stables and spend more time with the horses, study them, see for myself what they needed," she continued. "The only way to do that is to put the hours in." It is difficult to imagine any trainer working harder than Waterhouse. She rises at 3am most mornings and it is nothing for her to work up to 18 hours a day. She is a driven woman but retains an infectious "joie de vivre" about her work and life. Waterhouse has plenty to be cheerful about as she has developed arguably one of the strongest spring carnival teams of her career. The trainer is hoping either More Joyous or warhorse Theseo can provide her an elusive Cox Plate next month. More Joyous, aiming for her sixth stakes win in succession tomorrow, was awesome winning the Sheraco Stakes first-up two weeks ago. Despite carrying 59kg, she produced some amazing sectional times in sweeping to an easy win - recording 33.09s for her final 600m, 21.71s for 400m and 11.11s over the last 200m. "She is one of the most naturally talented horses I've ever had," Waterhouse said of More Joyous. "She is so much bigger and stronger now and I'm sure she will cope with more racing." Waterhouse said More Joyous' initial aim was the $500,000 Epsom Handicap (1600m) at Royal Randwick on October 2 in preparation for the $3 million Cox Plate (2040m) at Moonee Valley on October 23. "I think she might need another run before the Epsom - either the Shannon Stakes or the George Main Stakes," the trainer added. "I'll just see how she goes [tomorrow]." More Joyous is raced by John Singleton who Waterhouse reserved particular praise. "Everyone has 'Singo' down as a lucky owner," Waterhouse said. "But he's not lucky, he's just very good at breeding top-class racehorses. "I don't think 'Singo' gets the credit he deserves. He has got the best boutique band of broodmares in the country that goes right back to a wonderful mare my father trained, Denise's Joy. "He puts his mares to the best stallions like More Than Ready and the results are phenomenal. More Than Ready is a super sire and 'Singo' is on to another winner with his new stallion Big Brown." Not only has Waterhouse changed her training routine, she is also concentrating more on developing quality stayers in a bid to finally win a Melbourne Cup. When she first took out a trainer's licence, Waterhouse cut her teeth preparing stayers and had Melbourne Cup second placings with Te Akau Nick (1993) and Nothin' Leica Dane (1995). But Waterhouse hasn't had a Melbourne Cup runner since Mr Celebrity ran unplaced five years ago and is desperate to be back on Australian racing's big stage. "I so dearly want to win the Melbourne Cup," she said. "I haven't had a runner for a few years and I told Rob I was sick of not having a good stayer in the stable. "He then went out and found some very good, tried New Zealand stayers in Herculian Prince and Descarado. "He's a genius at finding these good stayers early in their careers and it's a method we used with a lot of success in the past. We found stayers like Te Akau Nick, Hula Flight, Electronic and Coco Cobanna this way." Waterhouse said about a decade ago she decided to concentrate more on training sprinter-milers and this left the stable cupboard bare of quality stayers for a few years. "My clients wanted the more precocious types so we were more actively trying to find Golden Slipper horses," Waterhouse said. "For a while there I went away from the stayers a bit but I love training these distance horses. It's very satisfying to watch a quality stayer emerge." Waterhouse believes she has three legitimate Cups contenders this spring in Herculian Prince, Descarado and AJC Australian Oaks winner Once Were Wild. "I still have to qualify Herculian Prince for the Cups but he is doing everything right," she continued. "His run in the Tramway [third to Neeson] last week was outstanding but just wait until he gets to 2000m. He's crying out for this distance. He's heading towards The Metropolitan and then he'll go to Melbourne. "Descarado is already qualified for the Cups because of his second in the [AJC Australian] Derby to John Wallace's very good horse [Shoot Out]. I'll send him to Melbourne after [tomorrow's] race. "I can't tell you how excited I am with Once Were Wild. This mare, who is another bred and owned by 'Singo', is the ideal Caulfield Cup horse. "She's in for a big spring - I've never been so confident about a horse going into the feature races as I am with her." Despite losing her premiership title to Peter Snowden, Waterhouse revealed it isn't high on her priorities to regain the title this season. "The only goal I've set for myself is to improve my strike-rate and try to win as many Group One races as I can," Waterhouse said. The final word goes to Rob Waterhouse who found an ideal way to encapsulate his wife's training career. "They once said Gai only trained stayers and couldn't train two-year-olds but she proved them wrong," he said. "Then they said Gai couldn't train fillies, then it was stallions and she proved them wrong again. "The only thing left for her to prove now is whether she can train hurdlers and steeplechasers. I'm sure she can but she will probably never get the chance." A bit of a confession, that she wasn't spending enough time with the horses! ![]() |
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Big Moves on Booming, Akmal, Muir,
Interesting to see how they shape up . long way to Go at this point in time. |
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So You Think was very impressive last night beat shocking who could only finish 4th with minimum ease...Also seen that Camponologist is being prepared for a tilt at the Melbourne Cup..Goldolphin always has 1 horse that runs a nice race i cant see this horse being it though..
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it was 1m1f has little bearing on the Melbourne Cup besides the fact Shocking was so impressive again over a short distance
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So You Think won 2nd up 1800m.
Master trainer. Won with ease. could be something very special. |
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agreed they should be aiming for breeders cup classic with this, certainly not melbourne cup
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I think some people are being blinded by how brilliant So You Think is at 7-10f, and just assuming that the horse won't get 2 miles.
He is by High Chapparal, who won the Derby and Irish Derby, and was 3rd in two Arcs. Kudos to whoever has heard of the Damsire, Tights. Is by Nijinsky, so there is more stamina there.In the bottom quadrant is the Derby winner Pinza. If he stays fit, and doesn't go over the top, I think the big question isn't whether he will stay, but will he settle. Remember, in his barnstorming win in the Cox Plate, after the initial hurry up to get a good position it was the horse's decision to stroll on, not the jockey's. The jockey just went along with it. |
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WHAT are the IRISH doing?
Rite of Passage and Profound Beauty. Trainer does it every year, never gives intentions clearly |
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yep Weld does that quite often. Very coy about his targets for horses, very coy indeed. Borderline infuritating .. what's the big secret ?!
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Rite Of Passage ruled out of Melbourne Cup...Weld will make a decision on the participation of stablemate Profound Beauty in two weeks.
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08 Sep 10 21:06 One thing I'd like to comment on are the fillies and mares. I know they have put up impressive performances, but I'm surprised by how short they are in the market, and it has been consistent. 26 Dariana, 25 Faint Perfume, 32 Jessicabeel. It was the same thing last year with Daffodil. I wonder whether some people are looking for the next Makybe Diva, and that is influencing the prices? Well, got that bit right at least. All three got withdrawn on Saturday. ![]() |