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bornisthekingofSB
25 Aug 10 07:56
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Thought i would start a little thread to see what you lads thinks
at moment PP go
4/5 Memory
5/1 Laughing Lashes
8/1 Wild Wind,Together,Misty For Me
12/1 Seeharn
16/1 Kissable
20/1 bar

Obviously Memory desreves to be fav after her two wins in the Albany and the Cherry Hinton,Supplemented Laughing Lashes seems solid enough but how good is the Debutante 'form' with Together not looking straight forward that day(imo).I quite liked the run of Wild Wind when beating Laughing Lashes in her maiden on C/D,but why has she been off?
Anyway i will leave it to you more astute lads to point me in the right direction of the winner

Thanks for any help.

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By:
carvillshill
When: 25 Aug 10 10:56
Would be interested in Laughing Lashes if she's a definite runner. Proven over C and D is a big plus. On breeding Memory should get it no problem but she seems to have to do it the hard way-odds-on backers will lose a few fingernails...
By:
downallstar
When: 25 Aug 10 11:35
Seeharn would be of interest if we got rain, but the forecast looks dry.
By:
downallstar
When: 25 Aug 10 14:03
Prendergast also has Seeharn engaged in Sunday's race, but revealed she will not be taking her chance.

"Seeharn is a non-runner as she just tweaked a muscle when she ran in the Debutante Stakes the last day and she isn't ready to run again yet," the trainer added.


Kissable e/w 16s is now my play.
By:
Tiswallaceno7
When: 25 Aug 10 14:07
Got to be on Jessie's purple patch. Great e/w bet. The AOB group of horses are difficult to assess.

Its wont be fast ground and could get sticky yielding ground. Might be a smart lay after Hannon's superstar got stuffed in the national
By:
jamesp
When: 25 Aug 10 14:28
Before I saw Power's odds, I felt that Memory should be a 6/4 chance, so she's no value at 4/5.  She's travelling abroad for the first time and she is reportedly working very well (which means she's showing plenty of speed), so the 7f trip must be a slight worry.  The Hannon juveniles have not quite been firing as they were a few weeks ago.  The ground should be OK - she's by Danehill Dancer out of a dam who won on the soft, so even if the going changes she should be OK on it.  Laughing Lashes has an obvious chance and the Debutante is usually a very good guide to this race (it has provided 9 of the last 15 winners of the Moyglare), so 5/1 represents solid value.  We don't know which one Johnny Murtagh will be riding, which makes it slightly tricky.  He may well stick with Together rather than switch to the filly that beat her last time (Misty For Me).  Wild Wind is an interesting one, but the others look exposed.
By:
carvillshill
When: 25 Aug 10 16:26
Sadly that 5/1 didn't last the day yesterday.
By:
bornisthekingofSB
When: 27 Aug 10 11:48
12 go to post

memory             4/5
laughing lashes    7/2
misty for me       7/1
wild wind          8/1
together           8/1
kissable          12/1
why               20/1
Gatamatala        25/1
light footsteps   25/1
palinode          33/1
mrs happy         66/1
negotiate         66/1

those are PP odds
By:
Tiswallaceno7
When: 27 Aug 10 12:43
Have to take Memory on. After Hannon's other thing was stuffed at 4/9 you gotta think you can get these English Horses beat.

Delighted to see them over though. Gives the race a great dimension
By:
carvillshill
When: 27 Aug 10 13:44
Just recovering from a minor heart-attack: Bestbttng had LL at 26 on here for Sunday- thankfully when you click through they've transposed the 1000 Guineas market onto the Moyglare...[smiley:crazy]
By:
CLOWN888
When: 27 Aug 10 18:02
HARD TO LOOK BY MEMORY THE WAY SHE WON HER LAST 2 RACES LAST RACE 2ND WON A GROUP3 3RD WON GROUP2 4TH WON LISTED...
By:
TD_Gunner
When: 27 Aug 10 18:50
Laughing Lashes for me. She really impressed last time and reckon she could be too strong for the fav.
By:
bornisthekingofSB
When: 28 Aug 10 09:59
right made my mind Wild Wind for pennies each way,really think this could be a decent race to look back at
By:
the lay preacher
When: 29 Aug 10 08:10
if the ground is still good to firm at the curragh memory wont win she has won her races so far this season despite the ground not because of it the 7 furlongs wont be a problem but the ground will
must be a lay.
By:
bornisthekingofSB
When: 29 Aug 10 09:21
glad i only  got involved for 'pennies' on wild wind out to 18/1 on here.lol
By:
soul of wit
When: 29 Aug 10 09:37
wouldn't give up yet on wild wind - ladds only 15/2 but biggest on together. 16/1 available at sj.
By:
jamesp
When: 29 Aug 10 09:40
I can't see that the ground will be a problem for Memory (or for any of the other fillies): the course has been watered, so there should be no jar.
By:
sintonian
When: 29 Aug 10 10:02
I liked the look of Wild Wind lto, but decided to try a few quid eachway on Light Footsteps. She finished behind WW last, but attempted to make all on just her 2nd start. She has not ran since, like WW, and she was also very green on Debut, so looks like there could be more to come. 66/1 with Fallon aboard worth a stab.
By:
sintonian
When: 29 Aug 10 10:02
* last time
By:
carvillshill
When: 29 Aug 10 10:37
Nice drop of rain here this morning.
By:
the lay preacher
When: 29 Aug 10 11:17
depends how much water they have put on it james which of course we wont know until after a couple of races.
By:
the lay preacher
When: 29 Aug 10 12:13
looks like the ground will have some cut in it james watering plus heavy rain will see to that.
it could end up perfect for memory.
By:
mythical prince
When: 29 Aug 10 12:19
the irish fillies look nothing special. so by process of elimination memory should win easily
By:
jamesp
When: 29 Aug 10 12:47
It should be noted that the Hannon team (well, Richard Hannon Jr, to be precise) thinks that Memory is the best two-year-old in the yard (better than the colts Strong Suit, King Torus, Libranno et al).  If she runs to form (and there's a slight worry on that score - see my earlier comments) and is able to deploy that potent turn of foot she should surely beat the Irish fillies.  Laughing Lashes would have been a good bet at 5/1, but at current odds I wouldn't oppose the favourite.
By:
the lay preacher
When: 29 Aug 10 16:10
the ground on the straight course still looks on the fast side .
in 2 minds now but i think the call is to lay memory.
By:
Tiswallaceno7
When: 29 Aug 10 16:21
Well Done Layers....this hannon guy is a layers dream

4/9 and even's.

Well done Tom Segal as well
By:
the lay preacher
When: 29 Aug 10 16:21
as always the ground can stop any horse.
By:
mythical prince
When: 29 Aug 10 16:28
first film directed by clint eastwood.
By:
Tiswallaceno7
When: 29 Aug 10 16:30
Hughsie can't ride The Curragh IMO.

Strong Suit and now Memory. He cleary didn't engage his brain
By:
Tiswallaceno7
When: 29 Aug 10 16:31
I just seen the replay he was at the back of the field 20l front to back and all the principles at the top of the bunch(top 3)
By:
bosra shame
When: 29 Aug 10 16:34
Champion the Wonderhorse wouldnt have made that ground up. Think Hughsie starting to believe his own myth
By:
Masterminded
When: 29 Aug 10 16:42
terrible terrible ride. too bad 2 be true.
By:
jamesp
When: 29 Aug 10 16:44
I only watched the race on TV, so don't know what the ground is like at the Curragh.  It looked a bit loose on top, which wouldn't have helped any of the fillies trying to make up ground from the rear.  Memory has a potent turn of foot on genuinely fast ground, as she showed in her last two races, but the looser ground may not have helped today, as she was never able to get into contention.  She's much much better than that.
By:
Tiswallaceno7
When: 29 Aug 10 16:47
Memory is better but she was still thrashed. I wait and see what Hughsie says and then make a firm opinion on the horse after that but that was a weakish race depth wise and was out with the rags
By:
Graeme83
When: 29 Aug 10 16:48
Always watered to favour the home team
By:
Tiswallaceno7
When: 29 Aug 10 16:57
Didn't seem to affect the Sprint races or the Round Tower's stakesLaugh
By:
Tiswallaceno7
When: 29 Aug 10 17:01
"She didn't fire today for whatever reason. A few of ours have been running like that recently. We'll take her home and check her out before making a decision. It wasn't the distance that beat her as she was all out of contention before that became an issue."

Hannon quote. Be interesting to see if she scopes badly.
By:
jamesp
When: 29 Aug 10 17:02
I have now watched the race several times and it's significant for the future that the first four fillies all had a hard race: the winner Misty For Me was hit about 12 times with the whip, the runner-up was hit at least 8 times (and flashed her tail in response), Kissable and Together were each hit about 10 times.  Memory was not hit once by Richard Hughes and that kindness will pay dividends next time, as she simply never had a race today.  I'm sure that there will be a valid excuse for Memory, as her earlier form over 6f is rock solid (she has beaten the winners of the Gr.3 Princess Margaret Stakes and the Gr.2 Lowther Stakes).  Several of the Hannon two-year-olds have disappointed recently: Strong Suit, Libranno and now Memory.  There is clearly something amiss.
By:
bornisthekingofSB
When: 29 Aug 10 17:07
anyone else think Laughing Lashes didn't really go through with it(when hit with the whip tail went abit) which is strange as she dug really deep when winning the debutant.
Quite liked the run of Kissable who could be interesting over a mile.
Anyway well done to the winners
By:
bornisthekingofSB
When: 29 Aug 10 17:08
sorry james i type a bit slow and our posts crossed you noticed LL tail as well.
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