Oh and for what it's worth Sint I think the breakdown took place long ago - I just wonder how he manages to type while wearing a straight jacket

Yes thanks for putting us on the winner sintonian and co.

the original post way back in august, highlighted Helleborine before it even ran, it was priced up as low as 7-8/1 fav at one point, it still looked to have a good chance until it's last run, even although it has cost me, i still feel it was a tremedous  shout and good detective work. other posters have made good observations, including Ben 10, who put up Moonlight Cloud early and Sacred Kingdom who said Helleborine was a late May foal, which have very poor stats in the race. there are loads of other good posts with good information,and believe it or not, i think Eric speaks a lot of sense and does knows how to work Ante-Post, but his bragging seems to upset a lot of punters, instead of being upset by punters personalities, we should be concentrating on helping each other win some dosh. i have always liked Moonlight Cloud, for it to have beaten Helleborine so easily, i think she is the one, the other French horse has been underestimated in my opinion, Nova Hawk, and Havant is the other one on my short list. i have made my book, so won't be betting anymore in the race. i think the bookies are just shortening up everything now. cheers.

Helleborine is not well drawn (in stall 11 of 16) but still looks overpriced at around 6/1 for the Pouliches tomorrow.  The favourite Golden Lilac is respected but she doesn't appeal at the odds, as her trial win was achieved in a desperately slow time.

Thanks heaps for posting your thoughts here James. Much appreciated.

Why the hell is Gosden persevering with Maqaasid over this trip? It's obvious from the Guineas that she's a sprinter.

I've no doubt it's a weaker race, but it's still false logic to expect her to find a turn of foot at the business end.

Well, the winner was good and I doubt any of the badly drawn horses would have beaten her but still, those drawn badly just never got into the race.

Winner very impressive - so much for slow trial times meaning horses can't win. Maybe Carlton House is a worthy Derby favourite after all[;)]).

Maybe now it can be accpeted that Helleborine is not top class - no more excuses.

I'd forgive those in behind Uncle, the first 4 were drawn 6-2-1-3.

Massive bias

That was impressive and clearly a 10f G1 is within it's reach very soon.

If she goes for the French Oaks will that mean she won't be coming to Royal Ascot - the Coronation would be hers for the taking.

Definition of a God complex for you eric:-

A god complex is a non-clinical term generally used to describe an individual who consistently believes he or she can accomplish more than is humanly possible or that their opinion is automatically above those with whom he or she may disagree.[1] The individual may believe he or she is above the rules of society and should be given special consideration or privileges.

I hope the winner comes to somewhere like Ascot. Probably a better price there than if she stays in France.

cruise d ... I am the best on here antepost. Analyze that.

cruise d ...

"It is a great British disease - we don't like winners. We have lot of sympathy for losers."

Especially when most of the losers are on here.

Oh cruise d .. re your quote.

The laws of society dont exist on here, kissing the bosses @ss to get on doesnt replace performance which is the only thing that matters on here. If you dont perform you are sh1t and cant make up for it by using societies herd mentality to aggrandise one another like yourself, sintonian, uncle puncle and others try to.

Deal with your uselessness try to improve and stop bringing 'society' on here @ss kisser.

That is because you dont understand what I am doing. The word is ignorance.

Can imagine Galileo trying to convince the herd they were wrong centuries ago, must have been a piece of cake compared to the n0bs with elevated opinions of their essay writing cliche riddled c@ck on here. The larger the group the greater the ignorance in uncontrolled crowds.



With the loss of many of his defenders in Rome because of Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems, Galileo was ordered to stand trial on suspicion of heresy in 1633. The sentence of the Inquisition was in three essential parts:

Galileo was found "vehemently suspect of heresy", namely of having held the opinions that the Sun lies motionless at the centre of the universe, that the Earth is not at its centre and moves, and that one may hold and defend an opinion as probable after it has been declared contrary to Holy Scripture. He was required to "abjure, curse and detest" those opinions.[50]
He was sentenced to formal imprisonment at the pleasure of the Inquisition.[51] On the following day this was commuted to house arrest, which he remained under for the rest of his life.
His offending Dialogue was banned; and in an action not announced at the trial, publication of any of his works was forbidden, including any he might write in the future.[52]

You do have a god complex tho[;)]

eric_morris 15 May 11 14:57 
Hooray jamesp your fancy for the Guineas after Helleborine was pulled out ... did not get the mile.
Moonlight Cloud gave the rest a head start and could never get into the race. She needs another chance as does Memory.
True, Hooray didn't get the mile, but let's face it neither did Moonlight Cloud.  Comments in running: "Held up in rear, good headway over 3f out, ridden to lead 2f out, soon hung left under pressure and headed, 3rd and beaten just over 1f out, weakened final furlong (beaten 9½ lengths)."