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Some unraced two Year olds of potential interest
Some unraced two Year olds of potential interest
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I think you will see the better Godolphin two year olds coming out soon, especially those bred from their own Godolphin/Darley mares who tend to be more stamina laden pedigrees at present.
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Do we know if Punctilious (spelling may be wrong) has given birth yet?
Also has Kazzia got any other progeny out there? Really had high hopes for Zeitoper but he isnt anywhere to be seen at the moment. |
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Why does Zarooni have a 2yr old entered in Ireland on Thurs
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Rich Tapestry
Third foal; half-brother to Irish 1m winner Anywaysmile; dam placed 1m and 1m4f, sister to 7f-1m2f Group 1 (2,000 Guineas/Eclipse) winner Refuse To Bend and half-sister to Melbourne Cup winner Media Puzzle.  |
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On breeding it looks a very good maiden in Leopardstown on Thursday.
Colt out of Shawanda by Kingmambo Colt out of Cassandra Go by Dansili Colt out of Sophistacit by Galileo Filly out of Preseli by Montjeu Factum is also entered Prob none of them will be declared |
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I would not guarantee the following, but it is the position as I understand it.
Do we know if Punctilious (spelling may be wrong) has given birth yet? She has a two year old filly by Kingmambo, I don't know if you meant yearling or a foal? Also has Kazzia got any other progeny out there? Really had high hopes for Zeitoper but he isnt anywhere to be seen at the moment. Again a two year old by Monsun, filly I think. |
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Cheers Equimine. Do we know if either of the 2yos are in training and if so which yard?
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Azores - Danehill Dancer (IRE) — Flamingo Sea (USA)
A two year old filly for David Wachman. She's a half sister to Frozen fire. There's no maiden entries of yet, but she's in all the top two year old races. Shabyt - Sadler´s Wells (USA) — Shastye (IRE) A two year old filly for Jeremy Noseda. Cost £350,000 as a yearling. She's a first foal of Shastye, trained by John Gosden, she was listed place and a close 5th behind playful Act in the Lancashire Oaks. Jim Bolger has Shastye's half sister(Myrine), and she won a maiden by a distance a few weeks back. Again Shabyt has no entries in any maidens yet. |
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Another Godolphin horse with an exciting pedigree:
Jameel bay colt - Monsun (GER) - Maid's Causeway (IRE) |
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well done equimine got biondetti nice price ty also caught hannons pausinnas at gw ty
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Thread has paid its way handsomly so far - well done Equimine
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Exemplify (full sister to Special Duty) is due to make her debut over a mile at Deauville on Tuesday 10 August.
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What a maiden the 6.35 at Newmarket promises to be on Friday.
Frankel and Genius Beast two to run who have been mentioned on here already, but Elrasheed (half brother to Akmal), Man Of God (brilliant middle distance pedigree, Alborada, Quarter Moon etc.) and Nathaniel (brother to Playful Act) also very much take the eye on pedigree. Could we see another Motivator? Both maidens of the 7f maiden at Newbury on Friday also look fascinating, with Yair Hill, a brother to Jedburgh who caught the eye on debut behind Native Khan at HQ on debut, and Buckland, a major eyecatcher when third behind Murbeh over 6f at the same track on debut, are the two who look the pick on form. Then there is Dressing Room (a half brother to Lord Shanakill), Saamidd (from the family of Barathea and Gossamer), Muwasama (related to Lahan) and Pivot Bridge (a half brother to Speciosa, related to Pride) who all make their debut. General Synod (half brother to 2yo debut winner Instalment and a couple of 3yo winners over 8-10f) and Treasury Devil (out of the top-class miler Crystal Music) take the eye in the second division, as do Colebrooke (related to several winners, including useful 8-10f winner Hazeymm) and Fleeting Tiger (half brother to the top-class Rebelline). All three maidens look sure to be informative, but the 2yo I am most looking forward to seeing is Frankel in that 1m maiden at HQ! |
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Re: earlier post. Exemplify is a half-sister to Special Duty (by Dansili out of Quest To Peak), not a full sister. She won the Prix des Marettes at Deauville on Tuesday and may be aimed at the Prix Marcel Boussac.
Another one I'm looking forward to seeing on the track is Claiomh Solais (by Galileo out of Scribonia), a full sister to Gile Na Greine and Cuis Ghaire. She's in the Moyglare Stud Stakes, but no other entries at present. I wouldn't put it past Jim Bolger to run this one first time out in the Moyglare! |
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Cream,
As you say interesting races, but certainly not betting races! I might have considered Frankel until I noticed Henry Cecil's comments on S/Life. "I was thinking of running a very nice Galileo half-brother to Bullet Train called Frankel in the juvenile maiden. I may go to Newmarket though, he's slightly highly strung and a bit of a baby and crossing the Knavesmire can be an ordeal. It may be more sensible to start off just down the road." |
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Yes, those comments didn't exactly fill me with confidence either, but he has always worked well and has a very smart pedigree, so it would still be something of a disappointment if he wasn't up to the task today, for all it's clearly a very warm maiden on paper.
Will also be keeping a close eye on Treasury Devil in the 2.00 at Newbury. Bred in the purple and Gosden felt him good enough to give him an entry at the five day stage for the Washington Singer Stakes tomorrow; yard in top form at present, and they introduced a couple of winning newcomers last Saturday. |
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Saamidd just won pulling a caravan.
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Well done Cream of the Crop - nice win for Treasury Devil and for sure one to keep an eye on.
I am intruiged to see when the better Ballydoyle two year olds come out. Apart from Zoffany, there hasn't been a lot to rave about and considering the firepower at their disposal, its only a matter of time before we see some more classic contenders. Has anyone heard any gallop reports or any to look out for? |
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I like Gosden one tonight, Nathaniel fwiw
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Best of luck tonight with that one Ben.... I'll keep an eye on it. :)
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Aren't Amen (b c Galileo - Kitza) and Diogenes (b c Galileo - Sophisticat) meant to be pretty decent, re Ballydoyle's unraced 2yos? Don't hold me to that, but pretty sure they were mentioned in a positive light at one time or another.
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Wont pay off but have done a £25 e/w double on Genius Beast and Auden tonight to give Godolphin a nicely bred four timer of first time out 2yos today.
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Good day Cream, well done.
I will try and do a review of the horses mentioned thus far over the weekend, together with future entries. Regarding the Balldoyle's. Diogenes was mentioned to me some time ago, certainly Coolmore want/need some good Galileo colts this year for future stallions. I hope readers, and contributors, to the thread have enjoyed it and also made a betting profit. |
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With regards to Ballydoyle's 2 yr olds i started a thread over on trf since the start of the season just going through the pedigree's and entries.
http://www.theracingforum.co.uk/horse-racing-forum/bloodstock-and-sales/ballydoyle-2yr-olds-2010-pedigree-t81819.html First post is the list and markings signify my amateurish opinion |
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Was very impressed with Genius Beast keeping on for third today, hated the ground and was under pressure a long way out. Cecil's winner looks a nice type obviously.
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Liked the look of Frankel too. Looked quite a powerful individual and jockey was very kind on him.
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bloody tank that frankel init
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An update on entries etc. and the odd comment on some of the horses.
UNRACED: FASTEST MAGICIAN – No entries, did hold a Gimcrack entry. Could have met a setback, or taking longer to come to hand. GULF OF NAPLES - No entries, apart from the Totepool . AIR TRAFFIC- Unable to find any data. ALMAGEST – Unable to find any data. ALL TIME - No entries except the Meon Valley Stud Fillies Mile @ Ascot. CENSUS – No two year old entries, Derby entry. COMMUNICATOR - No two year old entries, Derby entry. CORSICANRUN - Entered in three of the Auction races and 2011 Derby. DENY - Entered in the Champagne and Royal Lodge stakes, couple of the Auction races. DURANTE ALGHIERI – Entered in two of the Auction races. END OR BEGINNING - Entered in three of the Auction races and the Royal Lodge. ENJOY TODAY – Entered in the Champagne and Royal Lodge. GUESSING – Entered in the Meon Valley Stud Fillies Mile and the Cheveley Park. LORDOFTHEHOUSE - Entered in the Tattersalls Millions. MOHEDIAN LADY – Entered in five of the Auction races. PURE SCIENCE - Royal Lodge entry. TANJUNG AGAS - Champagne, Royal Lodge, Dewhurst and Racing Post entries, plus two of the Auctions races. Must have been showing something for Michael Jarvis! DUMBARTON – Royal Lodge and Racing Post entries. MAKEYNN - Maiden entry @ Brighton on Tuesday, also two of the Auction races. AZORES – Entered in five of the Auction races the Moyglare and Meon Valley Stud. AMEN – Entered in the Champagne, National, Royal Lodge, Dewhurst and Racing Post. Also some of the Auction races. DIOGENES - Entered in the Futurity, National, Royal Lodge and Racing Post. Raced still maidens: FACTUM – Satisfactory debut when clearly not fancied @ 14/1. Should win a maiden, entered in a range of the two year old pattern races. ARC LIGHT – Okay debut run, when beaten favourite behind Biondetti. Holds Maiden entries at Kempton, Sandown and York this week. At a guess Nurseries beckon? ABTASAAMAH – Beaten a head on debut, on the line, when favourite. Effectively a winner without a penalty if going for another typical maiden. No entries apart from the Totepool. YASHILA – Looked fairly average on Goodwood debut over 6f, but can forgive any horse a bad debut run, especially at Goodwood. Might need step up in trip. Entered in all the Auction races, no other Maiden entries. GENIUS BEAST- Staying on third behind Frankel. Should win a Maiden, but looks to have the makings of a nice three year old. NATHANIEL - Second to Frankel on debut, but probably least impressive of the first three. Royal Lodge and Racing Post entries. Raced winners: SHROPSHIRE – Impressive debut win visually, yet to see a winner from the race. Still holds Gimcrack entry on 18 August. BIONDETTI- Debut win looked fair for the course but nothing exceptional. Entered in the Acomb on Tuesday, and Listed race at Salisbury on 20 August. PAUSANIAS - Cosy debut victory at Goodwood. Fifth placed horse subsequently second when favourite in Salisbury maiden. Entered in the Weatherby’s @ Doncaster. FRANKEL – Impressive debut winner in less than ideal conditions. Strong powerful two year old, but was a February foal, interesting to see how progresses physically. Royal Lodge, Dewhurst and Racing Post entries. |
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BIONDETTI is declared for the Acomb on Tuesday.
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Midday's half brother is entered for a 7f maiden race at Sandown on Friday
Midsummer Sun is by Monsun and I think I read somewhere he was Frankel's galloping companion |
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PFTrader, he is indeed Frankel's regular galloping companion, and he shows plenty of promise himself. However, I must confess I am surprised to see him kicking off over 7f given he is by Monsun and a half brother to Midday, a daughter of Oasis Dream (a much bigger speed influence than Monsun) whose first victory over 1m as a 2yo. He is sure to be quite a prohibitive price given his pedigree, connections and the fact it seems to be a well known fact he works with Frankel, and I would have been more keen to take the risk if he'd have started off over a mile.
John Gosden runs what is apparently a very nice half brother to Rainbow View called Utley, and he would have to be considered very seriously given the run of the yard's 2yos at present. It always an informative maiden which has been contested by some top-class performers in the past, most notably Oasis Dream and North Light (both runners up). |
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The 3.30 maiden at Newmarket tomorrow looks a cracker. I am personally quite sweet on Utley for the in-form John Gosden, but both Deny and Tanjung Agas also make a great deal of paper appeal. Chilled and Musical Flight a couple of other eyecatchers on pedigree in what could be a potentially hot maiden.
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The two divisions of the fillies' maiden at Newmarket (1.50 and 2.20) also look very interesting. In the opener, Stoute's newcomer Abergeldie is by Street Cry out of a half-sister to Barathea and Gossamer; the Jarvis and Dunlop newcomers would have been of considerable interest but have been declared non-runners because of the soft ground. In the second division, Stoute's newcomer Havant is a Halling half-sister to top-class Leadership, and Meehan's newcomer Vita Lika is closely related to Guineas runner-up Vital Equine.
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There are some lovely pedigree knocking about, aren't there, and it's such a shame that Nahrain was unable to take up her engagement in the opener. Just out of interest, do you think Abergeldie will go on the ground? Obviously being a Street Cry you'd tend to think not, but Saamidd, himself a son of Street Cry from a Gerald Leigh bloodline, fairly flew in on rain softened ground at Newbury a fortnight ago. Abergeldie, as you say, is from the family of Barathea and Gossamer, and she is also related to a lightly raced filly called Zibilene, dam of one Aryaamm who in turn is the dam of Saamidd. Interesting.
I actually quite like the look of Havant in the second division, and she should be able to act in those testing conditions being a daughter of Halling, although half brother Leadership (by Selkirk) seemed to need top of the ground, albeit another sibling, admittedly hurdler Rougham, acted very well with plenty of cut in the ground. I think she looks interesting in what is a weakened race with the absence of Tameen. |
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ttt..excellent thread imo.
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I think the 2.00 Doncaster result will make the Cecil/Abdulla camp pretty happy.
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Just wanted to reiterate what a brilliant thread this is. Its what this forum is all about and I would LOVE IT if we had one of next years classic winners in here. Hope you've all made a bundle!
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What a shame there aren't many other threads like this on these forums.
Excellent work. |
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It looks as though Henry Cecil has got a vintage crop of 2yos from Juddmonte this season. He's already had Frankel and Picture Editor make winning debuts, whilst Waferia came out and built on earlier promise to win a 1m maiden at Kempton.
He looks to have some really nicely bred sorts still to emerge for Khalid Abdulla: Air Traffic (16/3 b c Dansili - Emplane) - full brother to the smart but ill-fated Wingwalker, Aviate, 1m 2yo debut winner who won the Musidora at three, and the very smart French performer Early March All Time (31/1 b f Dansili - Clepsydra) - full sister to the top-class 2yo Passage Of Time; half sister to the high-class Father Time and the very useful Timepiece Cursory (24/2 b f Hurricane Run - Half Glance) - closely related to dual middle distance winner Brief Look (by Sadler's Wells), out of a May Hill winner from the family of 1000 Guineas winner Wince (dam of the top-class Quiff) Imperial Unity (14/5 b c Empire Maker - Dokki) - half brother to the top-class US pair of Aptitude and Sleep Easy, from the family of another top-class US duo in Coastal and Slew O'Gold Midsummer Sun (7/3 b c Monsun - Midsummer) - half brother to the top-class 10-12f performer Midday Monopolize (4/3 b c Oasis Dream - Modesta) - half brother to the useful 7f 2yo winner Intense, out of a lightly raced but smart middle distance/staying performer who was a half sister to Elmaamul and Reams Of Verse (family of Zafonic) Sacred Shield (3/5 b f Beat Hollow - Quandary) - half sister to the smart middle distance performer Double Crossed (dam of the top-class Twice Over) and to the dam of smart trio Father Time, Passage Of Time and Timepiece Searing Heat (19/3 b/br c Empire Maker - Valentine Band) - half brother to the very smart Await The Dawn and smart French performer Putney Bridge; from the same family as yesterday's debut winner Picture Editor Word Power (2/2 b f Oasis Dream - Novellara) - first foal of a lightly raced 14f Listed winner who's a half sister to the top-class pair of Elmaamul and Reams Of Verse, the high-class High Walden and Manifest, and to the dam of Midday World Domination (25/3 b c Empire Maker - Reams Of Verse) - half brother to the smart 7f 2yo Ithaca (dam of Zacinto), 6f 2yo debut winner Western Verse and the high-class Many Volumes, out of a top-class 2yo who placed in the Oaks at three It looks like he could be in for a very exciting end to 2010/beginning of 2011 with this lot. |
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The Kazzia 2yo is called Moonsail and is entered up in a 1m maiden at HQ on Friday.
Monsun (GER) - Kazzia (GER) Plenty of stamina on both sides there so should be really suited by distances as a 3yo. |