a 40-1 banker in the Hunt Cup if it gets in, trained by a Mr Jarvis and becoming well handicapped

Yup TT, shaped with promise last time, only a year that it was beaten by Bushman

no tirol m8 won't be there went last year on the saturday with a m8s stag do but was so packed couldnt see a thing, kind of put me off really. must remember to get the expensive seats in future!

will be following it on the beeb in between the footie though. take your point about age of aquarius but it would slightly concern me that he was expected to do the business last time and failed to deliver. in any case I think it's fair to say that with the retirement of the legendary yeats the race is wide open.

I just like this manifest as he has this huge raking stride which in some ways reminds me of yeats. but i just wonder whether the short straight at ascot will suit him if it becomes tactical. of course all races at ascot are highly competitive so you can only be so confident either way.

in the coventry i like this jarvis colt, elzaam, who apparently has been burning up the gallops (tipped up the weekenders newmarket correspondent tony elves) but of course it's a bit of a crapshoot.

Hypnotized - Britannia
Berling - King George v
Alsace Lorraine - Windsor Forest
Darley Sun - Gold Cup.

Just Friday Metropolitan Man.
Won a 4.5f race by over 7L ffs

Cheers. Thought he would bring more than that. Seems to be running in the Windsor Castle.

got 2 love the dirty eway races.

the system is to bet dirty, thou of course  online u soon get shut down.

Is Presvis actually a runner in the PoW?

I've just read he is. Makes that race more interesting at least.

Safina in the Sandringham

i'd like 2 add a few more

rip van winkle (as obrien reckons he won't be fit, must be a steering job)

twice over, jaqueline quest for the meetings greatest trainer, to go with manifest

and showcasing for abdulla, who's having a hell of a year.

oh right tirol good luck with that[;)]

tbh i think if manifest gets the trip theres only one winner but there has to remain a stamina doubt, i think the york race kind of turned into a sprint.

kite wood is also interesting, I know you like age of aquarius but I think the godolphin horse has a much better win ratio, also I remember his newbury win last year, he looked like a real grinder.

i'd be put off kasbah bliss and ask as horses older than six don't have a great record in this, ok yeats won it last year but he was truly exceptional.

should be a great start to the meeting tommorow, I know i've mentioned how much I like elzaam in the coventry but it was interesting how reading on another site that samuel morse scores very highly on the speed figures

could be another change of heart

lol i won't ben i'm pretty keen on this elzaam i think sometimes we can overanalyse things, just that the speed figures this guy was putting up was a bit off putting (it was on the racing forum under the coventry thread)

just like to bring some more arguments to the table!

these are the speed figures he put up- (not sure about the copyright issue here)

THE COVENTRY

Speed Ratings

- 92.68 Canford Cliffs (2009) (3.06/Good to Firm)
- 91.65 Art Connoisseur (2008) (5.38/Hard)
- 95.08 Henrythenavigator (2007) (5.38/Hard)
- 90.94 Hellvelyn (2006) (2.86/Good to Firm)
- 90.14 Iceman (2004) (3.17/Firm)
- 92.91 Three Valleys (2003) (2.90/Good to Firm)
- 88.68 Statue Of Liberty (2002) (1.49/Good)
- 87.70 Landseer (2001) (1.26/Good)
- 85.03 Cd Europe (2000) (1.23/Good)
- 85.70 Fasliyev (1999) (2.63/Firm)
(Average: 90.05) (Median: 90.54) (Average: 90.30)


Sectional

- 38.339 Canford Cliffs (2009) (3.06/Good to Firm)
- 35.890 Art Connoisseur (2008) (5.38/Hard)
- 36.651 Henrythenavigator (2007) (5.38/Hard)
- 38.228 Hellvelyn (2006) (2.86/Good to Firm)
- 38.663 Iceman (2004) (3.17/Firm)
- 37.223 Three Valleys (2003) (2.90/Good to Firm)
- 38.632 Statue Of Liberty (2002) (1.49/Good)
- 36.707 Landseer (2001) (1.26/Good)
- 38.899 Cd Europe (2000) (1.23/Good)
(Average: 37.692) (Median: 38.228) (Average: 37.960)

Ascot 6f Record – Henrythenavigator
Time: 1m 12s
Standard: 49.530 %

Contenders Speed Ratings

94.32 Samuel Morse (Curragh 5f) (GF)
90.32 High Award (Curragh 5f) (GF)
87.83 Strong Suit (Newbury 6f) (GF)
87.37 High Award (Epsom 6f) (H)
82.90 Galtymore Lad (Beverley 5f) (GF)
82.31 Elzaam (York 6f) (H)
82.30 Galtymore Lad (Pontefract 6f) (H)
81.61 Chiswick Bey (Beverley 5f) (F)
80.57 Klammer (Newmarket 6f) (GF)
79.93 Amwell Pinot (Chester 6f) (GF)
78.51 Chiswick Bey (Doncaster 5f) (GF)
77.56 Klammer (Newbury 5f) (GF)
76.91 Samuel Morse (Curragh 5f) (HVY)
76.81 Roayh (Leicester 6f) (GF)
76.73 Planet Waves (Nottingham 6f) (GF)
76.62 Sheer Courage (Leicester 5f) (F)
70.82 Move In Time (Newcastle 6f) (G)
68.99 Mullins Way (Bath 6f) (H)
66.84 Zoffany (Naas 6f) (H)
61.19 Zoffany (Leopardstown 6f) (H)

Contenders Sectional


32.506 Zoffany (Naas 6f) (H)

33.554 High Award (Epsom 6f) (H)
34.856 Samuel Morse (Curragh 5f) (GF)
35.000 Strong Suit (Newbury 6f) (GF)
35.065 Klammer (Newbury 5f) (GF)
35.131 Zoffany (Leopardstown 6f) (H)
35.990 High Award (Curragh 5f) (GF)
36.003 Klammer (Newmarket 6f) (GF)
36.208 Sheer Courage (Leicester 6f) (F)
36.275 Planet Waves (Nottingham 6f) (GF)
36.417 Galtymore Lad (Pontefract 6f) (H)
36.486 Amwell Pinot (Chester 6f) (GF)
37.109 Galtymore Lad (Beverley 5f) (GF)
37.234 Roayh (Leicester 6f) (GF)
37.311 Chiswick Bey (Beverley 5f) (F)
37.467 Samuel Morse (Curragh 5f) (HVY)
38.079 Move In Time (Newcastle 6f) (G)
38.088 Mullins Way (Bath 6f) (H)
39.257 Elzaam (York 6f) (H)
40.633 Chiswick Bey (Doncaster 5f) (GF)


as you can see according to his ratings ( I have no idea how he does them) samuel morse is well ahead overall but zoffany tops the sectionals. If his ratings are to be believed then samuel morse is already well above the average speed rating for a coventry winner.

tbh like you I don't particularly like this strong suit and i'd be surprised if the winner came from outside the obrien pair and elzaam, but i shall stick with the jarvis horse as it would be stupid to jump ship now.