King Stands Stakes Group 1 Tues 15th June 3.05

Sounds crazy but I think Mister Manannan could run a race in this, should blaze a trail over 5 and could be a decent back to lay in running at minimum.
Overdose still in there but changed trainer

kingsgate @14s
fleeting spirit @15s
for me so far.

Scratch both

Overdose

OVERDOSE was on Tuesday ruled out of Royal Ascot, but the 'winner' of the voided Prix del'Abbaye two years ago is ready to make his comeback in France this month.

The Hungarian sprinter, nicknamed the 'Budapest Bullet', missed all last year with a foot problem, but owner Zoltan Mikoczy remains upbeat about the five-year-old.

He said: "Royal Ascot is definitely off as it would be wrong to go there without a run. Any other horse maybe, but Overdose needs two runs before a Group 1 race."


West Ocean

KENTUCKY DERBY-winning trainer Todd Pletcher will not be visiting Royal Ascot this year after his sprinter West Ocean was ruled out of the meeting.

The Wertheimers' four-year-old filly was entered for both the King's Stand and the Golden Jubilee, as well as the Darley July Cup.

The owners' racing manager Pierre-Yves Bureau said: "West Ocean's last work didn't satisfy Todd and you can't travel a horse all that way when she isn't 100 per cent for a Group 1 race."

Bookies appear to have factored both these absences into their prices as no changes.

There has to be doubts about
Fleeting Spirit - Golden Jubilee option? Would halve in price if confirmed.
StarSpangledBanner - I think this may go for Queen Anne as the silence on Rip Van Winkle is deafening!
Kingsgate Native - Golden Jubilee?

nibbledat Joined: 25 May 05
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fleeting spirit 3rd time lucky 

Rumours that Fleeting Spirit will be going for the Golden Jubilee?

The fact that no money is lining up to back her suggests to me that there has to be some doubt. I think that the Golden Jubilee is a tough race and the King Stand is a Group 1 now so why not take the easier option?

If confirmed, I would snap the bookies hands off for 10/1 e/w as I think it could well be 3rd time lucky as Nibbledat states!

FS...record 1st time out 1,1,2...only scenic blast to good last yr...i'm on as already posted on here...no overdose or the yank hoss...got to go for this imo..

asked on the aussie forum thoughts between scenic & nic...
gen. vote was in favour of scenic...so i'll go for 3 rd time lucky..

i think fleeting spirit primed for a big run,and other horse of interest is total gallery no penalty now,10s and 14s to big.

nicconi aint getting beat

trevor has this race by the balls imo

On nicconi e/w at 5/1. Looks like I have the price at least. I wouldn't mind him just being s shade below Scenic after he won easily from stall 15. I'm on quite large and my large bets never seem to win so already getting ready for the disappointment.

Enjy

Been experimenting with randomizing the size of my bets with some success! Bottom line is we're not always right either in the horses we back or in the amounts we put on, so if you have say 10 bets in a day, try randomizing the amounts and see what happens (even just as a test to start).

Kingsgate Native will not attempt to emulate his victory in the 2008 Golden Jubilee Stakes at Royal Ascot and will instead run in the King's Stand Stakes next week.

Sir Michael Stoute's sprinter looked exceptional when winning at Haydock on his seasonal reappearance and the five-year-old holds entries in both Group One sprints.

The Mujadil gelding was just touched off on his racecourse debut in the Windsor Castle Stakes three years ago and took in both the King's Stand over five furlongs and the Golden Jubilee over six a year later, winning the latter contest.

He finished only 13th in the Golden Jubilee last year on his first start for Stoute following an abortive spell at stud but has since proved all his old ability remains.

"I've got some important work to do this week with the potential Ascot runners so I've not tidied it up just yet, but the plan is to go for the King's Stand with Kingsgate on Tuesday," Stoute told At The Races.

Nicconi   
Kingsgate Native   
Fleeting Spirit   
Total Gallery   
Equiano   
Starspangledbanner   
Triple Aspect   
Borderlescott   
Amour Propre   
Gold Trail   
Markab   
Mister Manannan   
Blue Jack   
Spin Cycle   
Alfred Nobel   
Bould Mover

yeah....i've had to cover my other bets with nicconi

mister manamaman [too many ms?] or the aussie horse that ran so well in singapore gold trail i believe are my two against the field

whats the reasons behind nicconi last 2 runs?

Das, KK.Just be careful with Markab (at any price). That last run was not a race and needs to be thoroughly ignored. There is no possible way a 7-y-0 can be improving. If he beats more than 2 home here I will give up the game. A 200/1 shot with no chance save the biggest draw bias in history.

I strongly believe there's plenty of value to be had in Gold Trail at 16/1.

His overall profile is a little misleading as he's all about speed and really anything beyond the minimum trip stretches his stamina(He has won a Gp1 over 6f but he dictated a steady pace from the front and his class told against inferior opposition).

In 5½f Galaxy Stakes last year he looked sure to win before fading behind Nicconi inside the final half furlong and for good measure he repeated the trick in this years contest.

The International Spirit was a familiar story as it appeared for a moment that he had fought off Rocket Man but he faded once again inside the final furlong.

I believe the later was a noteworthy performance against dyed in the wool Group 1 international sprinters and he wasn't done for class but for stamina.

He's proven he travels well so with optimum conditions and some luck with the draw he should find this much easier against our stodgy sprinters.

rowing in with a few of you who think Fleeting Spirit can make it third time lucky.
GL to you all

Now that Starspangledbanner is running, does this mean he will miss the Jubilee ?