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By:
turnip turns
When: 23 May 10 11:18
I'm on Lady Springbank not lady D [:p]
By:
TD_Gunner
When: 23 May 10 11:22
do I keep the faith in Lady D?

was all over her for the English 1,000. Devil
By:
nibbledat
When: 23 May 10 11:23
lady darshaan is a p1g
By:
turnip turns
When: 23 May 10 11:24
Gunny,forget about the English version,joke of a race,if you fancied her for that, you got to for this,simple really [:p]
By:
turnip turns
When: 23 May 10 11:25
Nibb Laugh
By:
TD_Gunner
When: 23 May 10 11:26
post yer massive lay nibber, ta.
By:
jbarnes (no not him)
When: 23 May 10 11:28
willing to forgive lady d as well that race is worth wiping out formwise to a degree

any views on the 3.10? interested in rangefinder ran ok over to far in the chester cup any views on the opposition from the irish boys?
By:
downallstar
When: 23 May 10 11:34
Tel - sweet F A [;)][:D]Cool
By:
TD_Gunner
When: 23 May 10 11:35
i was interested in Rajik in that one, although not sure if the trip might be a bit short. Will love the ground though.
By:
Terry Venables
When: 23 May 10 11:37
DAS got ya [;)]

TD i like Rajik in that one today
By:
downallstar
When: 23 May 10 11:43
Cool

That and Music Show my only plays today. Too many runners in the 1000 to really get stuck into MS, given Channon's luck in these races. Cry Hope she wins though.
By:
enjbenjy
When: 23 May 10 11:46
Backed Music Show e/w because I'm a pu55y with my bets these days. Wanted an e/w double but couldn't see anything else.
By:
turnip turns
When: 23 May 10 11:47
enjbenjy,this is a home for stray cats[;)]
By:
TD_Gunner
When: 23 May 10 12:16
Deep - are you around Confused
By:
Akak
When: 23 May 10 12:23
Anna Salai!!LoveLoveLove She is special!
By:
platinni
When: 23 May 10 12:26
deep text me, he's in the bath td and told me to tell you to gfy [:x]
By:
Deep Impact
When: 23 May 10 12:27
Hello Gunny Love

Plat, re: Zayaan = yes
By:
Deep Impact
When: 23 May 10 12:28
Just got out of bath & now in a better mood Laugh
By:
platinni
When: 23 May 10 12:33
good stuff deep

and all the stuff about tt ill keep schtum, mums the word and all Blush
By:
PFtrader
When: 23 May 10 12:42
significant going change for anyone punting at Perth today now good to soft, soft in places with going stick reading of 6.3
By:
TD_Gunner
When: 23 May 10 12:46
ta plat.

Deep - have you read anywhere that Goldie is definitely going to Ascot ?
By:
Deep Impact
When: 23 May 10 12:55
Matt Chapman interviewed Freddie Head on ATR & said they they wanted to run her in Queen Anne but she needs a run, hence today's race at Longchamp
By:
Deep Impact
When: 23 May 10 13:01
They showed the interview on Racing News today - you can watch it on the ATR website, it's about 20 mins into the programme
By:
trev w
When: 23 May 10 13:06
a few dbls whilst sunning in the gardenCool
i believeinmiracles
shintoh
gallileos choice
cutlass bay
anna salai

cant believe i'm going with godawful tbhPlain

had a respectful bet on the lady as a few fdc appear to have backed herSilly

be lucky gayersGrin
By:
TD_Gunner
When: 23 May 10 13:13
thanks mate.
By:
Tavaris Jackson
When: 23 May 10 13:20
Kite Wood vs Kasbah Bliss over 1m7 is interesting in Longchamp later.
By:
EastLower Gooner
When: 23 May 10 13:34
want to see Kashbah back at 12furlongs.

but thats just me.
By:
EastLower Gooner
When: 23 May 10 13:35
how much did they pay for Kite wood again? £5m???
By:
Tavaris Jackson
When: 23 May 10 13:41
At least, was rumoured to be £6m.
By:
nibbledat
When: 23 May 10 14:09
curr 210

solent ridge @20
kinglachy @50

gl
By:
EastLower Gooner
When: 23 May 10 14:20
Elcanos there at perth....

remember back in the day there were some shrewdies backing that to win the german derby :o
By:
comeonkautostar
When: 23 May 10 14:21
GOLDIKOVA (32) was a warm order to win this race. And on the face of it her short odds seemed justified. After all she'd won three Group 1's in a row, culminating in the Breeders' Cup Mile before tackling the Prix d'Ispahan. But there were a couple of very big question marks about her here. Namely her fitness and stamina.

Last year Goldikova lost an unlisted conditions race on her seasonal debut to a rather ordinary filly called Azabara. In fact Goldikova lost her first three starts. So far she's won six out of six from July onwards and lost four out of four earlier in the year.

After she'd won her first Group 1 in August trainer Freddy Head said Goldikova had improved significantly both physically and mentally from her third start. This is the norm for Freddy Head's best horses. He tends to train them to peak for the big Group 1's in the second half of the season. So far he's blanked with all seventeen of his Group 1 runners in June or earlier but won ten times out of thirty nine in Group 1 races from July onwards.

The question of stamina was equally worrying. Previously I thought that Goldikova might well want longer than a mile. But looking at her physique and the way she runs more closely, I was not at all sure before this race. The pace she showed to win the Breeders' Cup Mile was pretty astonishing. The way she finished out that race was like a sprinter. She's muscular and close coupled too, with rather short legs and a very quick stride, again just like a sprinter.

Goldikova's sire was champion sprinter and her dam never won beyond a mile. Goldikova was tried over a trip longer than a mile just once before the Prix d'Ispahan. This was in the Prix de Diane (French Oaks) where she cruised in third place before kicking into the lead with a furlong and a half to go. She tired from there to get beat four and a half lengths into third. And she would have been fourth in a few more strides.

Since Indian Skimmer won the Prix d'Ispahan back in 1989 there have been 24 fillies that have contested it. They all lost. Eight started favourite. And in recent years we've seen smart fillies such as Six Perfections, Darjina and Banks Hill all go off at odds on in the Prix d’Ispahan and get beaten. So there was plenty of precedent for Goldikova's sub-par run.

With major doubts about her fitness and stamina it has to count as one the biggest own goals of the season by Goldikova's connections to put in a pacemaker for her here in the form of Celebrissime. She chased that one and Curtain Call hard, running a close third till emptying in the closing stages. If the pacemaker hadn't been in the race and the gallop had been slower who knows what would have happened. But she might well have lasted home and maybe even won.

I wouldn't go writing off Goldikova after this race. Her record and that of her trainer suggests she may well need another run or two before hitting her peak. But by the end of the season I'd bet on her being back at Santa Anita with every chance of taking the Breeders' Cup Mile for a second time.

I've mentioned before that Freddy Head seems to train his top runners to peak for the big Group 1's in the second half of the season. So far he's blanked with all eighteen of his Group 1 runners in June or earlier but won twelve times out of fourty one in Group 1 races from July onwards.
By:
EastLower Gooner
When: 23 May 10 14:22
french stewards had a mare there with Starfina. shouldve demoted her under their rules.
By:
EastLower Gooner
When: 23 May 10 14:24
Kauto...did u catch Bamma3 as yet?

was on bravo last night. on again tonight...11.30ish

GSP was cornering Kong Watson and typical bamma tried to make a big thing of it...loads of interviews etc...you'd have thought GSP had quit the UFC for them hahaha

...
By:
comeonkautostar
When: 23 May 10 14:26
Yes mate, seen it

Look on Reid's face when Georges walked out was hilarious

Watson could be getting a call from Coker or White soon imo
By:
EastLower Gooner
When: 23 May 10 14:27
On Byword in the D'Isphaan

progressing nicely, unbeaten this season, third run off a break, trainer and jockey in hot form.

think if he's going to beat goldikova and stacelita then it has to be today cause theres no way he's doing it when they're race fit.
By:
turnip turns
When: 23 May 10 14:32
Laid Goldie @1.91,gl [:p]
By:
comeonkautostar
When: 23 May 10 14:46
wow

that was impressive from JV

Goldie doesnt want to race
By:
EastLower Gooner
When: 23 May 10 14:46
Jan Vermeer...nice. travelled sooooo smoothly on the firmer ground.
By:
platinni
When: 23 May 10 14:46
didnt need that :(

zayaan green as fck
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