ROYAL HUNT CUP HERITAGE HANDICAP 1M 16/06/10

Mine one of me all time favs,probably won more money on that horse than anything else.

No tt it is not

Plat i have been lookin at Rig AM Bald may have an idea through Set the trends race with Tartan G who has good form this season had a little on already

aye , tru leg

Cityscape,could be another,Charlton does well with his handicappers at this meeting.

108???  wide berth for me

Just floatin ideas tbh

cheers earle

hits the stats bar the age but he's lightly raced

talking of charlton going to cover his one in the next at Windsor With Wilfred Pick

gl and good night

That form line links in maibait with TG so Rig looks a decent price imo

i think so but luca shippin on a good un?

st moritz looks a big price also

riggins...1st hoss i mentioned on here

johnstones..has drifted to a ridic. price on here since he lost..
tryst is of interest...

is luca gonna run acrostic in this instead of the other 2

what about Docofthebay


doesn't tend to win many races though, does he

Consistent animal, might sneak a place granted a favourable draw.

Docofthebay's  strike rate for the past 3 years has been mightily impressive imo

true fft,but dangerously well handicapped don't ya think ?

on best form yes, which was yonks ago

docofthebay is sh1t

ran well in the Thirsk Hunt Cup

tiger reigns ?  do we believe trainer waffle about needing a bend?

Point taken,but his current trainer is no mug,and has been well backed on a couple of occasions ,but in all fairness ,probably place at best.

Nibb,stop sittin on the fence will ya

agreed entirely with nibber tbf.

Ran well in this two years ago, and dogged it in front. Completely ungenuine rogue who does most of his best work when it's too late.

Besides Last Three Minutes is a shoe in

nibbledat said that about Workforce ......

this race on the Wednesday ?

yep

Yes Gunny,you going innit ?[;)]

yeah, planning to on the Tues and Wed.

going?? he's selling timeform @ the gate

I've been waiting for Oratory to run since the Victoria Cup. Withdrawn when the money was down last time

Anyone know how likely he is to run in this?

I notice he's also entered for York on Saturday which suggests he might not?

trev

off anyway mugs, laters

completely blanked here and i may have given ye the winner

mugggggggggggsssssssssssssssssss

laters trouble

St Mor ?

you've named about 10 horses platinni so you should have nailed the winner really

Long Run,soz, know nothin tbh

cant have tiger plat

Oratory slightly unlucky run lto in the Victoria Cup if memory serves me ?

why not trevor?

ga y innit

Oratory didn't get the best of runs at Ascot last time.
The money appeared to be well and truly down last time before he was withdrawn. Quite lightly raced I reckon he's well in off 91.

[smiley:crazy]

sh it his gay nappy in a big field[smiley:crazy][:p]

Apart from the ones i've mentioned,and tbh agree about Oratory,Makaamen any one ?

mull of killough spaff

Is right.

Mabait, ante-post favourite for the Royal Hunt Cup, has been ruled out of the race by trainer Luca Cumani.

Beaten only a neck in the Victoria Cup at Ascot, it was thought he would return to Berkshire for the prestigious handicap.

However, after running with credit to finish third in the Diomed Stakes at Epsom last week, Cumani is planning to miss the annual cavalry charge.

"Mabait is in good form but he won't be going to Ascot," said the trainer.

"I've got nothing in mind for him yet.

"There's a Group race in Ireland at the Curragh in early July, a Group Three race and he might go for that."

While Mabait has been ruled out of the Royal meeting, Cumani has given the green light to both Purple Moon and recent Redcar winner Forte Dei Marmi.

"Purple Moon will definitely be going for the Gold Cup after his run at York and Forte Dei Marmi will run in the Wolferton after winning the Zetland Gold Cup," added Cumani.

fck sake didnt fancy him at all

Marajaa seems to relish good ground, on a career high mark but looks in great shape.
Anyone else think Manassas is worth another go if it was good to firm?

any word from balding about riggins?

Axiom or Acrostic ?

FDM   

No way I would get involved with one of these Cumani hype machines like so many do.

Al Khaleej for me...I have bet this at 16/1 and a trixie with

Hawkeyethenoo 16/1 and High standing at 16/1

the over the cliff method, backed up by been well weighted in a race he,s ran well in,in the past and trained by a trainer with a good record in these cavalray charges, brings me down on DOCOFTHEBAY

Platinni - Riggins runs as long as there is a bit of juice in the ground. Wont run if all good to firm.

Credit Swap appears to have been laid out for this .
Needs a fast run straight mile so the race should
be run to suit .
Just the 2 runs so far this season , a pipe-opener
followed by an outing over the wrong trip at Chester .
Will wait for the day of the race to see going & draw .

wannabe king?

Last Three Minutes for me

Dandy Boy   
Fareer   
Acrostic   
Riggins   
Bangalore Gold   
Forgotten Voice   
Tartan Gigha   
Docofthebay   
Al Khaleej   
Balcarce Nov   
Lovelace   
Tiger Reigns   
Tryst   
Invisible Man   
Marajaa   
Mia's Boy   
Mull Of Killough   
St Moritz   
Stoic   
Supaseus   
Suruor   
Huzzah   
Axiom   
Credit Swap   
Harald Bluetooth   
Makaamen   
Manassas   
Noble Citizen   
Oratory   
Swift Gift   
Vitznau   
Viva Vettori   
Al Muheer   
Proponent   
South Cape   
Truism   
December Draw   
Kay Gee Be   
Mahadee   
Shavansky   
Smokey Oakey   
Spectait   
Tartan Gunna   
Kavachi   
Tudor Key   
Wise Dennis   
Audemar   
Lucky Dance   
Moynahan   
Please Sing   
Webbow   
King Jock   
Satwa Laird   
Ballinteni   
Espero   
Officer In Command

no wannabe king?

Last three minutes not there either is he?

has stoic been put up by a major tipping line today???

someone was waiting for confirmation

BOOKMAKERS are fearful of being hit for the second year running by a Jeremy Noseda-trained horse in the Royal Hunt Cup after support for the stable's lightly-raced handicap Stoic led to the layers taking early evasive action.

The Highclere-owned Stoic, not seen in public since failing to score in three starts at Meydan in February, will be Ryan Moore's mount in a contest last season captured by heavily-backed stablemate Forgotten Voice, who once again returns for Wednesday's handicap.

Paddy Power and William Hill went 14-1 (from 16 and 20) about Stoic, **** and Stan James 16-1 (from 20) and Coral, who were already bottom price at 12-1, now have him as their 10-1 third favourite.

Highclere spokesman Harry Herbert said: "Stoic has done really well since Dubai and this has always been the plan. Everything seems to have gone to plan and his recent work has been very good."

mug money

agreed bookies gamble, queue lemmings.....

From the Cumani website:

Axiom faces a tough task in the Hunt Cup as he is 12lb higher now than he was last year when only sixth, so Acrostic probably has better possibilities in that race seeing as he at least is still a little bit unexposed, though all in all it’s difficult to be much more than hopeful

Bookies gamble  = bullsh*t

if anything i think acrostic is thoroughly exposed

Platwise selection posted on another thread.

(for anyone who hasn't already seen its Riggins btw)

Done my brief stats look today on the top 40, the stats i used were;

Age 4-5
90-105 OR
1-3 runs season
2+ handicap runs
18 or less runs
Won over 8f+
Won a handicap
Place in Class2+ or won class 3 this season
Never run in a Group Race
Never won a class a
Best RPR this season
100+ RPR this season
20- 49 day break
Ran in Class2+ lto/ won class 3
Top 2 season
Won 11+ field
Placed 16+ field

9/10 winners scored 15+/18 on this - exception ceasare....

Those that do this year are;

Riggins, Dandy Boy, Bangalore Gold, Suruor, Tiger Reigns, Marajaa and December Draw

Bangalore Gold - Likely NR
Suruour - Small horse, trainer has stated before big field might not suit
Tiger Reigns - Has the class? Trainer stated he's not as good on a straight course
December Draw - Couldn't really have it on form....

Had my first bet on RIGGINS, also will on the day probably have a bet on MARAJAA, as an exposed 8yo doesn't seem like a royal hunt winner, but 3lbs better off with Dandy Boy over a furlong further i'd rather have a bet on him at 2.5x the price.

EC

Last season Invisible Man was favourite for the Cambridgeshire looking like a group horse before an appalling effort at Goodwood during which he looked to have sustained an injury. Put away for the winter he's come back with two debatable attempts while Goldolphin were in rank form.

He likes straight tracks and I'm fairly convinced 20/1 is too big and that the money will come for him prior to the race.

I can't see Invisble Man winning . Copyright D. Thompson .

shortlist

ACROSTIC
TRYST
Viva V
RIGGINS

VERY short list

RIGGINS

A charge developing on Riggins ..

Tough draw for Riggens.

I think draw is fine for Riggins in 22 - high supposed to be better and most of fancied runners that side - should be able to get cover, before sweeping to the front 1 out to score by 3! - Come on the Riggins!

all over riggins too EC

gl

24th may 20.49

riggins & tryst of interest atm

not much changed here...did have a bito 20s stoic when the gamble got underway...

aint the far side getting a better reading re the ground..

although i cant believe i'm even talking about comments regarding ascot going readings

Posted on other side:
Riggins
Tryst
Mias

  1 other

still the same bet for me but Paul Cole in poor form. His horses are very in and out.

Shortlist:

Dandy Boy
Tiger Reigns
Tryst
Moynahan

Surprised no -one fancies Fareer

A M Balding 1-53 - his RA record, just a note for Riggens chargers.

dirty tactics das dirty ^

backed riggins lto (reminded me of a typical nonce)

does no one fancy shavansky? cracking run in the cambrigeshire. ive had a couple of small bets at big prices. bit worried re the 6 draw though

Trev - just keeping people informed, that stat plus a suspect draw would put me off backing him.

Far side quicker acording to going stick
Fareer drawn in the middle = bad draw

Im taking a chance here on PLEASE SING trained by Mick Channon. Spent all its life in Listed/Group company bar a placing behind Golden Stream in the Sandringham last year as a 3YO and off a mark off 100. Runs here off a mark of just 92. Seen the stats on previous group runners but at 50/1 I will risk half a point e/w. Good run last time in Group 3 behind winner rated 116 and only a length and a quarter behind Golden Stream over the course and distance. Only a 4 year old so could still be room for some improvement. Plus the high draw could be a bonus too, but who knows?

0.5 Pts e/w @ 50/1 Please Sing (Royal Hunt Cup)

Good luck all.

Facts Joined: 05 May 03
Replies: 2080 14 Jun 10 17:31

Surprised no -one fancies Fareer






Fastbearform Joined: 03 Dec 04
Replies: 744 14 Jun 10 19:03

Good evening.


On Wednesday it's the Royal Hunt Cup and after alot of digging, I've decided to go with the class horse in the race, Fareer at odds of 12/1. This race has slowly over recent years been starting to favour the better horses and it's possible that this one could defy a few trends to take this.

I have also had an ew saver on Tiger Reigns which looks to be a good price of 25/1.

Taken the 40-1 about SPECTAIT, ok the comeback run wasnt the best, but its 8f big handicap form stacks up here, could be drawn well and it wouldnt be the biggest surprise if a Jonjo horse won after a bad run would it??

A saver on Lovelace, who won the far side event last year

Cue a dash to the stands side rail

Backed Dandy Boy, reckon he's still quite in and i'm thinking a low draw is what we want. 8/1 looks very fair

still quite well in

wd to HUSSARD .

Hussard Joined: 08 Jan 03
Replies: 49 13 Jun 10 19:41   


Last season Invisible Man was favourite for the Cambridgeshire looking like a group horse before an appalling effort at Goodwood during which he looked to have sustained an injury. Put away for the winter he's come back with two debatable attempts while Goldolphin were in rank form.

He likes straight tracks and I'm fairly convinced 20/1 is too big and that the money will come for him prior to the race.



Very well done. Hope you had a decent bet !

Thanks guys did well out of the race.

Hussard,well done,enjoy

Very well done Hussard.

Remember him winning very well (also coming from a long way back) last year on Newmarket's July course and thought he could be a horse to follow. Unfortunately, his two runs this season were ordinary and bad, but of course I didn't know he'd finished lame LTO.

ripppppped  offffffffff 


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