Not sure he's bred to be a 2yo, yes Rahy get's a lot of early 2yo's but there's been a fair few who improve with age, Fantastic Light the main one.
The damsire is Silver Hawk who is notorious for his progeny improving with age.

I see your point with the strict formlines but I don't think Major Conquest ran his best that day, got very very upset in the stalls.

Re your point about him being ready, yes it does look like he was but none more so than Canford Cliffs who knew exactly what he was doing last year, and I wasn't 100% sure CC would train on to be a 3yo but he has, and suprised me.

I'm not sure he'll win the Cov, looks to want 7f already, but have taken some 33's for the guineas, just in case.

Obviously, different types though.

Yes I am pretty sure Coral will be very disappointed if Strong Suit or Elzaam wins...

elzaam will tear it a new hole [;)]

ben have a great day, the racing is fantastic.

Evening C2(or night) you seem mad keen on the Zoff, how come?
Think the winner def comes from the top 4, but not sure which one

Woo hoo

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Sent: Fri, 14 May, 2010 10:14:32
Subject: Re:




York Result
13 May 2010
« 4:20 » Stratford Place Stud For Royal Ascot 2Yos E B F Maiden Stakes
(Class 3) (2yo) 6f Good To Firm
£7,123.60, £2,119.70, £1,059.30, £529.10
WATCH RACE - 20p
RESULT
RATE RACE
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      HORSE/SP AGE WGT TRAINER/JOCKEY OR TS RPR   
 
1
6   Elzaam (AUS) 2/1F  2 9-3  M A Jarvis  — * * 
b c Redoute's Choice (AUS) - Mambo In Freeport (USA) (Kingmambo) Richard Hills
  Made all, stayed on strongly final 2f, pushed out, readily (tchd 5-1 in places)   
 
2
12  1¼  Sir Reginald 9/1  2 9-3  R A Fahey  — * * 
b c Compton Place - Clincher Club (Polish Patriot) Paul Hanagan
  Hampered start, tracked leaders, went close 2nd over 2f out, kept on well inside final furlong (tchd 12-1 in a place)   
 
3
1  2  Rerouted (USA) 6/1  2 9-3  B W Hills  — * * 
ch c Stormy Atlantic (USA) - Rouwaki (USA) (Miswaki) Michael Hills
  Dwelt, soon chasing leaders, kept on same pace approaching final furlong (tchd 8-1 in a place)   
 
« 4
17  2¼  Rojo Boy 20/1  2 9-3  A M Balding  — * * 
gr c Red Ransom (USA) - Way To The Stars (Dansili) Jimmy Fortune
  Chased leaders towards stands' side, stayed on same pace final 2f (op 18-1)   
 
5
8  5  Jibaal (IRE) 18/1  2 9-3  M Johnston  — * * 
b c Acclamation - Maid To Order (IRE) (Zafonic) Joe Fanning
  Chased leaders, driven and outpaced 3f out, kept on final furlong (op 20-1)   
 
6
2  3½  Tinkertown (IRE) 12/1  2 9-3  P F I Cole  — * * 
gr c Verglas (IRE) - Kelly Nicole (IRE) (Rainbow Quest) Jamie Spencer
  Chased leaders far side, hung badly right and lost place over 2f out, kept on final furlong   
 
« 7
14  ½  Juliet Capulet (IRE) 5/1  2 8-12  A P O'Brien  — * * 
b f Holy Roman Emperor (IRE) - Royal Ballerina (IRE) (Sadler's Wells) J Murtagh
  Chased leaders, weakened over 1f out (tchd 9-2)   
 
8
9  ½  Mariachi Man 50/1  2 9-3  T D Easterby  — * * 
b c Haafhd - Popocatepetl (FR) (Nashwan) David Allan
  Started very slowly, green and hung left over 2f out, stayed on over 1f out, will improve (op 66-1)   
 
« 9
11  ½  Bonjour Bongee 100/1  2 9-3  A J McCabe  — * * 
ch c Monsieur Bond (IRE) - Bond Babe (Forzando) James Doyle
  In rear, kept on final 2f, never near leaders   
 
« 10
15  1  Comrade Bond 18/1  2 9-3  M H Tompkins  — * * 
ch c Monsieur Bond (IRE) - Eurolink Cafe (Grand Lodge) Darryll Holland
  Chased leaders, weakened 2f out (op 16-1)   
 
11
7  ¾  Move In Time 33/1  2 9-3  B Smart  — * * 
ch c Monsieur Bond (IRE) - Tibesti (Machiavellian) Tom Eaves
  Slowly into stride, headway and hung left over 2f out, never on terms   
 
12
3  1  Market Maker (IRE) 66/1  2 9-3  T D Easterby  — * * 
ch c Trade Fair - Papier Mache (IRE) (Desert Prince) Graham Gibbons
  Dwelt, mid-division, lost place over 2f out   
 
« 13
4  ½  Dreamweaving (IRE) 25/1  2 8-12  N Tinkler  — * * 
b f Sleeping Indian - Wicked (Common Grounds) Silvestre De Sousa
  Chased leaders, lost place over 2f out (op 20-1)   
 
14
5  4  Windward Islands 9/1  2 9-3  Mahmood Al Zarooni  — * * 
ch c Cadeaux Genereux - Dominica (Alhaarth) Frankie Dettori
  Chased leaders, lost place over 1f out (op 8-1)   
 
« 15
10  9  Scatty (IRE) 28/1  2 9-3  S Kirk  — * * 
br c Verglas (IRE) - Nonsense (IRE) (Soviet Star) Stephen Craine
  Soon driven along in rear, behind final 3f (op 25-1)   
 
16
13  18  Little Oddy (IRE) 100/1  2 9-0  M A Barnes  — * * 
b c Refuse To Bend (IRE) - Archipova (IRE) (Ela-Mana-Mou) Andrew Heffernan3
  Slowly into stride, reminders after start, soon well behind, tailed off   
 

16 ran TIME 1m 11.43s (slow by 0.83s


I think this is the best maiden run this season looking at the standard time yesterday it was slow by 0.83 the first three all making btheir debuts over the 6fs,earlier the two sprints won by a 95 and 97 rated horses were slow by 0.05 and 0.18 but over a furlong shorter using the comparisons on all races this season it bares that out.The first three in the 2 yr old maiden would go near standard time on there next runs and although its not a great way of comparing times over different distances it would give them ratings of near 100,i've back tracked through most of the better 2yr old races run so far this season and this race definitely comes out on top.
The form does look solid with another 5ls back to the 5th jibaal from the 4th rojo boy,the 6th tinkertown was another 3 1/2ls back in 6th
beaten a total of 14ls by the winner but both jibaal and tinkertown relatively expensive purchases.Juliet the o'brien horse had come out of what looked a reasonable maiden and had experience but ws still beaten 14 1/2ls.
Elzaam 280,000 euros,sir reginald 75,000 gns half brother to four winners including henrik and rerouted half brother to three winners including critical moment must be wining races,hopefully the york form will be underestimated and they might go off decent prices in what will probably be races like the coventry etc.

ELZAAM
SIR REGINALD
REROUTED

A couple of days later


Sent: Sun, 16 May, 2010 3:30:35
Subject: Re:




16:00 Newbury, 14 May 2010
6f 8y


Berkshire County Blind Society Maiden Stakes (Div 2) (Class 4)  (2YO only)
Winner £4,209 - 12 ran

Good to Firm



Weighed In

Result
NEW: Future Form
Pos Dist. Silk Cloth / Horse Name (Draw) SP Age / Wt Jockey / Trainer OR
1    10. Strong Suit (USA) (10) 6/4 Fav 2 9 - 3 R Hughes
R Hannon
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  tracked leaders and always going well, chalenged when shied away from rival whip 2f out, quickened to lead over 1f out, shaken up and edged left when in command inside final furlong
2  1¼  5. Neebras (IRE) (5) 25/1 2 9 - 3 Dane O'Neill
D R Lanigan
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  mid-division, headway towards far side over 2f out, chased winner 1f out, staying on same pace and well held when carried slightly left inside final furlong
3  6  2. Formosina (IRE) (13) 5/1 2 9 - 3 R L Moore
J Noseda
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  chased leaders, effort 2f out, ridden over 1f out, outpaced by leading duo inside final furlong
4  2  9. Straight Line (IRE) (12) 4/1 2Fav 2 9 - 3 R Kingscote
A P Jarvis
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  slight lead, pushed along halfway, headed over 1f out, one pace and well held when hung left inside final furlong
5  6  4. Major Conquest (IRE) (9) 25/1 2 9 - 3 S Drowne
J W Hills
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  mid-division, headway over 1f out, stayed on same pace and no impression final furlong
6  1¾  6. Presto Volante (IRE) (1) 33/1 2 9 - 3 A Kirby
Mrs A J Perrett
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  slowly into stride, green and soon pushed along in rear, headway halfway, ridden 2f out, stayed on one pace final furlong
7  ½  3. Indigo Way (4) 16/1 2 9 - 3 E Ahern
B J Meehan
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  in touch, ridden and one pace final 2f
8  1½  7. Ree's Rascal (IRE) (2) 66/1 2 9 - 3 P Cosgrave
J R Boyle
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  pressed leader, pushed along and every chance over 2f out, weakened over 1f out
9  ½  13. Silken Thoughts (6) 100/1 2 8 - 12 I Milickova
John Berry
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  started slowly, green and soon pushed along in rear, no progress final 2f
10  2  11. Tarjeyh (IRE) (7) 7/1 2 9 - 3 R Hills
M P Tregoning
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  keen, chased leaders, well there over 2f out, weakened well over 1f out
11  6  8. Shostakovich (IRE) (8) 10/1 2 9 - 3 G Baker
S Kirk
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  dwelt, took keen hold in mid-division, behind over 2f out
12  dist  12. Bournefree (IRE) (11) 100/1 2 8 - 9 P Hills (3)
S Kirk
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  started slowly, outpaced and always in rear, tailed off
     1. Capaill Liath (IRE) (3)  Non Runner -
   

Off Time: 16:01:23
Winning Time: 1m 12.73


After waiting ages for some outstanding 2 yr olds within 2 days comes another in the shape of strong suit and neeebras,the york race won by elzaam was the strongest and quickest formlines seen this season till one day later produced by these two.
The time was 1.12.73 only .67 slower than angels pursuit rated 111 beating society rock rated 107 earlier on the card again these two look to be heading to group races,just to back up the times on the card the other maiden div 1 won by memen was 2.21 seconds slower than that of the second division.Memen had already run and been beaten 4 1/2 ls by todays winner klammer that performance itself looked half decent the formlines of that newbury race and the time produced would suggest that these two are on paralell with elzaam if not better.These two races have been miles infront of anything produced so far,these two infact could be and are likely to be the strongest formlines so far this season,infact the latter looks even better than the formlines produced by elzaam

STRONG SUIT
NEEBRAS

[;)]

Absolutely devastated - Elzaam had it won everywhere bar the final yard.

Fav really should have won by another length or two so don't feel too sick

uncle you're right yet the exacta paid £9.40, can't believe it