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By:
downallstar
When: 13 May 10 21:24
Might add Cool Strike in the 2.10 Confused
By:
Soap
When: 13 May 10 21:24
Hills made a rick with 5s Muwakaba 2 pts win @ 5s
By:
downallstar
When: 13 May 10 21:28
3.10 Decorative Michael Jarvis, trainer: “She had a bit of a setback after she won last year. We will have a good look at the ground when we get up there, but at this stage I’d say she is a doubtful runner.”
By:
nibbledat
When: 13 May 10 21:31
downy any comments for hanoverian baron and bothy Confused
By:
turnip turns
When: 13 May 10 21:32
nibbledat     13 May 10 21:31 
downy any comments for hanoverian baron and his big bottie
Sad
By:
town moor
When: 13 May 10 21:34
I know this sounds nuts, but I'm having a little ew on reve de nuit as well as my win bet on dangerous midge. Reve de nuit about 13lb better off with dangerous midge for 6 lengths over 10f at donny, and I can't see dangerous midge being out the first couple. I'll try to lay a bit back at around 30.
By:
nibbledat
When: 13 May 10 21:35
[smiley:crazy]
By:
turnip turns
When: 13 May 10 21:39
[smiley:crazy]
By:
Soap
When: 13 May 10 21:40
Kite Wood will hate the ground also however opponants dont look up for much when i thought would be getting a a value alternative :(
By:
EastLower Gooner
When: 13 May 10 21:41
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AGcW0C3cHs&feature=playe r_embedded#!

best pitch invasion ever...30secons in :o
By:
onthenoseinfo
When: 13 May 10 21:42
looking at Himyla tomorrow, handicap debut and should love the ground lightly raced but serious ability wonder what price is likely??

Dangerous Midge looks very solid and Manifest...plenty of non runners likely so will wait till the morning for betting..

anyone a Himyla fan?
By:
Extreme Conviction
When: 13 May 10 21:45
4.20 York - ENDERBY SPIRIT

Always been highly thought of by Smart and his stable, after his 2yo maiden win connections said ' I am delighted with that. We were hoping to go for the Middle Park with him but he wasn't quite mature enough for that. He is in the Dewhurst and I will talk to Bryan about that and we will see.' Unfortunately he didn't make the Dewhurst but he finished an admirable second in a listed race at Doncaster at the backend of the season.

He then came back as three year old last season and first run he was said 'to have needed the run' when 4th to Sayif.

He then came 2nd to Total Gallery at Ascot by 1/4l, pulling a couple of lengths clear of the third in a listed race. Total Gallery has of course gone on to win an Abbaye and is now rated 118. Enderby Sprit runs off 100 tomorrow. Then followed a disappointing run on ground softer than ideal at Newbury.

Finally he came god at Haydock in July when he won a good Class 2 3yo handicap off a 2 lb lower mark than he runs off tomorrow (98). The form of this run has been franked time and again. 2nd place Servoca - won a class 2 later in the season, 3rd - Noverre To Go won at the Shergar Cup meeting next start and is now rated 5lbs highers, 5th - Dark Mischief won a nice conditions race last in the season and is now rated 3lbs higher. He then followed this up when 3rd to Total Gallery again, but only by a length and this time he was giving him 1lb (though he did have a claimer on)

He then followed this up with 3 poor efforts but there are some excuses, main one being 2 of those 3 runs were on ground way too soft for him. It seems really the quicker the better for him and we know it'll definitely be quick tomorrow, his runs on good to firm ground;

. 2 runs first time out - but he's been reported to need them badly both times
. 2nd to Total Gallery by 1/4l getting 3lbs
. 1st at Haydock in a hot race off a 2lb lower mark
. 3rd giving weight to Total Gallery at Newmarket - the ground was officially gd that day but times suggest it was definitely faster.
. Disappointing end of season 8th at Newbury.

He then started his season with a rather disappoinitng 5th at Thirsk, but he's said to have badly needed that.

Though to be honest the main reason i fancy him is the tour of Brian Smart's stable in the racing post today. If any of you haven't read it he says.

'I've always thought the world of him and i think we'll see a lot better now he's been gelded. He needed the run on his reappearance , but he has done exceptionally well since then and could be ready to go back into Listed races. I'll find him a nice little race before too long'


The fact that he think he's come on a lot for his run and will be a lot better this year suggests he could be well in, in frankly a poor class 2, and his price of 14s on here seems very appealing. There's not much pace in the race, but if there is it's probably in the lower half of the field and he's drawn nicely in stall 6 and he'll be happy enough to be up there anyway.

4 year olds also have a very good record in the race with 4/8 winners from a quite small representative and tomorrow he's one of only four 4 year olds in the field. Also this race has tend to go towards those at the top of the weights with 8/9 winners carrying 8st 10 or more, which would already rule out half the field.

As i've said i think it's a weak race and it's full of those that;

Need Further - Al Muheer, Himalaya, Whistledownwind, Esoterica
Need Shorter - Buachaill Dona, Cheveton, Old Joe Said
Have ground worries - Sonny Red, Baldemar, Tajneed
Run off high marks - Brave Prospector, Nota Bene, Sunrise Safari, Red Cape
Aren't good enough - Magaling, Hotham

Ingleby Lady will probably run a nice race, but i'd much rather be on ENDERBY SPIRIT at a big price EW. And hopefully he'll collect on my first big bet of the flat season so far.

GL EC
By:
turnip turns
When: 13 May 10 21:48
Great write up EC,good luck with yer bet [;)]
By:
onthenoseinfo
When: 13 May 10 21:52
excellent write up EC as always....i've gone through it and came up with Himalya and Ingleby and reckon it's going to a 4 year old alright...good stuff
By:
downallstar
When: 13 May 10 21:59
Nibb...

Brian Ellison, trainer: "I'd love to run him, because he's in good order, and his recent run on the Flat sharpened him up, but I have serious concerns about the ground. If it were genuinely good ground, he'd be fine, but if it's good to firm, or riding even quicker than that, it would be a waste of time running him."

&

Tony Newcombe, trainer: "It was a nice start to the season when he ran really well at Epsom and we think he might improve at a mile and a half. He would have preferred the ground not quite so lively but his form looks good even though the winner Alainmaar looks different class."
By:
Charlton2005
When: 13 May 10 22:06
Going to back Hawafa win only tomorrow. GL all.
By:
trev w
When: 13 May 10 22:09
classic punch w/pl anything above 80s will do [smiley:crazy]
By:
redal2
When: 13 May 10 22:11
Sorry down, I backed Cool Strike earlier tonight so he probably won't be winning.
By:
downallstar
When: 13 May 10 22:18
Thought you had a good day Redal ConfusedSilly
By:
platinni
When: 13 May 10 22:21
nice work EC, its a very poor race and he's the only one i could back tbh

gl
By:
turnip turns
When: 13 May 10 22:25
Adding Mull of Dubai e/w,decent record at this track innitMischief gluckers [smiley:crazy]
By:
downallstar
When: 13 May 10 22:25
Good work EC.... was looking at Ingleby Lady myself, will be adding Enderby Spirit now. Mischief
By:
bestmate
When: 13 May 10 22:55
Cracking piece EC. It will be a sin not to back it now. Forum charge likely
By:
top div
When: 13 May 10 23:18
Very good write up from EC about Enderby Spirit and he's a horse i like a lot but i would disagree that the horse wants the ground as fast as it was today as his winning run at Haydock came on ground that was officially changed to 'good' from 'good/firm' after he ran and the second next time out at Newmarket was on 'good' ground.To me he's hung a bit late on under pressure on fast ground more than once and the Racing Post notes for his two runs in April last year mention that the ground on both occasions was probably too fast for him (officially good/firm).

Of course it all depends on the watering tonight as the ground was responsible for plenty of nr's today so perhaps they'll get a little over zelous with the hose pipe ?.

Certainly the horse is capable enough to win this race as EC points out but i'd worry unless the ground eases a touch.
By:
Belmez
When: 14 May 10 00:00
After Fareer, I have a free bet in the first so have selected Breedj (Well backed first time and appears well backed tonight - hoping for some improvement but not usually a race I get involved in.)
2.10 - difficult race but narrowed down to Cool Strike/Mull of Dubai/Antigua Sunrise
4.20 - again not easy but a low draw seems useful - Himalya/Sunrise Safari/Red Cape.

Will wait till tomorrow to see how n/r's affect market

GL everyone
By:
jair1970
When: 14 May 10 01:31
Being a bit harsh on Acrostic lads?  First time up today he surely gets one more chance? (cue head in hands man)

Purple Moon hasn't won since 22nd August 2007; his Ebor.
Double edged sword it seems!

Similar story with Wajir.  Would be a strong fancy but has been overlooked by Franklin and appears to be in Godolphin blue  Cry

Nightmare week imo
By:
mythical prince
When: 14 May 10 02:13
manifest snaff
By:
nibbledat
When: 14 May 10 06:44
210 hanoverian baron @10, bothy e/w @33
240 wajir @13/2

gl
By:
downallstar
When: 14 May 10 09:30
wajir about 11/4 now nibb, rule 4s.

Nanton worth a small play for me in that race, if allowed to bowl along in front could nick this.
By:
onthenoseinfo
When: 14 May 10 09:32
Enderby a non runner I think[:(]

let's start an Ingleby and Himalaya charge...?
By:
doogs
When: 14 May 10 09:32
N/R's at York so far  . . . .

13:40  1 Above The Stars
14:10  10 Thin Red Line (IRE),15 Bothy
14:40  1 Furmigadelagiusta,4 Kite Wood (IRE),8 Clowance
15:10  3 Decorative (IRE),4 Deirdre,7 Snow Fairy (IRE)
15:45  13 Royal Holiday (IRE)
16:20  6 Enderby Spirit (GR),8 Cheveton
16:55  2 Sunny Game,6 Zuider Zee (GER),7 Tamanaco (IRE)
By:
downallstar
When: 14 May 10 09:33
Ingelby for me Nosey [;)]
By:
onthenoseinfo
When: 14 May 10 09:37
good man down, pretty sure i'm gonna back both of them [;)]
By:
downallstar
When: 14 May 10 09:40
York
2.10 - Class is Class & Cool Strike
2.40 - Nanton
3.45 - ???
4.20 - Ingelby Lady

Newbury
2.55 - My Placelater
By:
Fastbearform
When: 14 May 10 09:49
Morning guys.

2 for me today, at York in the 2.10, I am siding with Antigua Sunrise at a nice double figure price and at Newbury in the 2.55 I've done Myplacelater which must have a cracking chance.

Good luck all.   Happy
By:
downallstar
When: 14 May 10 10:19
Bearman Love

Added a mug dbl Society Rock (2.20 Newbury) & Diman Waters (3.45 York).
By:
TD_Gunner
When: 14 May 10 10:21
looking forward to Society Rock down, was at Ascot when he won lto, seriously impressive.

could be a very good sprinter.
By:
downallstar
When: 14 May 10 10:23
Me too Gunny! Only had a saver on him lto. Is too short to get stuck into so thought a little double would do. Happy

(fav backing cnut that I am) Laugh
By:
redal2
When: 14 May 10 10:25
down, a good day yesterday. I had agood run the last month but have been poor this week. Major bets losing and the odd small stakes win like Fareer. My problem is discipline. I should concentrate on a few and stop frittering away on daft bets.

So
3 top bets
Newbury 5.40 Carr Hall
Newmarket 3.35 Cape Rock
5.20 Ocean Blaze

Newbury card is fantastic, lots of potential. The 2yo races are divisions of the race won by Canford Cliffs last year, my biggest ever winner so I'm hoping Hannon has something nice in there.
At York I'm giving Dansili Dancer one last chance to prove his superb speed figure 2 runs ago. Cool Strike as saver.
Carioca should win, especially with non runners now. I'd back Diman Waters but for the draw.
At Newcastle I'll oppose Game Lad with Floor Show and give Miss Daawe a last chance in the 8.55
By:
downallstar
When: 14 May 10 10:26
FYI Plain

MONEY TREE     14 May 10 10:21 
PLACE CERTS IN ORDER OF CHANCE.

DIAMAN WATERS
PURPLE MOON
PRIMO LADY
FORTUNI

MONEY TREE     14 May 10 09:46 
OK FIRSTLY MY LIST OF WIN/PLACE LAYS.

CARICOLA
LUCKY FLYER
FIFTH AVANUE
ANTIGA SUNRISE
NANTON
CHACHAMIDEE
BOSSY KITTY
COOL STRIKE

MONEY TREE     14 May 10 09:43 
NOW AFTER MY LAST TWO DAYS AT YOUR I HAVE DECIDED ITS MY BEST TRACK FOR BETTING.

I KNOW THAT I WON YOU ALL PLENTY SO I HAVE TAKEN MY NETBOOK TO WORK SO I CAN POST TODAYS CERTS.

GREAT STUFF
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