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Graeme83
10 May 10 18:42
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Same as before. I will put up the best price as a couple of firms have priced it up.


Paco Boy  evens
Zacinto 5/2
Pipedreamer  15/2
Ouqba 16/1
Lord Shanakill 20/1
The Cheka  25/1
Stimulation 25/1
Prince of dance 25/1
Kergali 50/1
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Report Far From Trouble May 10, 2010 6:43 PM BST
No bet - just hoping Paco lags up
Report Graeme83 May 10, 2010 6:46 PM BST
I think the value lies outwith paco Boy at those sort of prices.
Report Far From Trouble May 10, 2010 6:52 PM BST
If Paco hadn't got beat in this last year i'd say he would be a big back at the prices given his Sandown romp. That run does play on my mind though, despite his obvious class

Reckon Lord Shanakill might be worth an e/w poke
Report turnip turns May 10, 2010 7:08 PM BST
Avoiding,gash imo Devil
Report platinni May 10, 2010 7:23 PM BST
place layed him last year and got away with it because of the ground

small field , good ground, one winner
Report Teddy Sheringham May 10, 2010 7:32 PM BST
will we get bigger than evens ? am very tempted to have a few £££ on paco, not enough rain about to really soften it up looking at the forecasts
Report johnnyrant May 10, 2010 7:34 PM BST
if you bet AP with Paddy Power, beware of the place terms chaps - e/w 1st and 2nd only. How can they justify this if 8 or more runners go to post is beyond me and a bit of an outrage if you ask me.
Report Graeme83 May 10, 2010 7:42 PM BST
Well spotted Johnny. Fake irish bastarts that they are. Straight into my black book with them. Two places is a scandal.
Report Horsesforcourses May 11, 2010 12:20 AM BST
If 8 runners go to post they pay 1,2,3 e/w
Report mightymoyes May 11, 2010 1:13 AM BST
the cheka e/w at 25/1 is a great bet imo
Report unclepuncle May 11, 2010 10:46 AM BST
Pipedreamer @ 16/1 with the Nanny for me.Grin
Report Graeme83 May 11, 2010 10:56 AM BST
It can't be a runner at that price surely ?
Report unclepuncle May 11, 2010 12:27 PM BST
To be fair that was the price I thought it would be - I think the other bookies are just a bit too short - will definitely go off in double figures if it runs.
Report yaboya May 11, 2010 12:39 PM BST
Does Zacinto definitely run in this?
Report Lumberg May 11, 2010 12:41 PM BST
10 year trends for Lockinge:

AGE (Win-Place-Runners)
4yo: 8-    10-48
5yo: 1-5-23
6yo: 1-1-12
7yo+: 0-1-9
8 of 10 winners were aged 4
4yos record of 8-10-48 compares well against all horses aged 5+: 2-7-44.

RECENT/PAST FORM
10 of 10 winners won over a mile or further
8 of 10 winners had won a Group 1 or 2 (both exceptions had finished 2nd in a Group 1 or 2)
7 of 10 winners were having their first run of the season (2 of 3 exceptions had their first run of the season at the Dubai Spring Carnival)
10 of 10 winners were having their first run in the race
9 of 10 winners were having their first course start (exception had won on only previous run at Newbury)
10 of 10 winners were officially rated 113 or higher

OTHER RACES
Ben Marshall Stakes winner (Prince Of Dance): 1 (1-0-1)
Prix Jean Prat winner (Lord Shanakill): 3 (0-1-1)
Jersey Stakes winner (Ouqba): 530 (0-1-3)
Bet365 Mile winner (Paco Boy): 3553654 (0-1-7)
Gladness Stakes winner (Kargali): 7 (0-0-1)
Celebration Mile winner (Zacinto): 46 (0-0-2)
Record of horses who ran in the previous year's race: 679653366 (0-1-9)
4 of 10 winners ran in the previous season's St James Palace, finishing 2366
4 of 10 winners ran in the previous season's QEII Stakes, finishing 4221
2 of 10 winners ran in the previous season's Sussex Stakes, finishing 13
2 of 10 winners ran in the previous season's Eclipse Stakes, finishing 18
2 of 10 winners ran in the previous season's French 2000 Guineas, finishing 52
2 of 10 winners ran in the previous season's Newmarket Champion Stakes, finishing 54
2 of 10 winners ran in the previous season's Leopardstown Champion Stakes, finishing 25

TRAINERS
Michael Stoute (3-0-9) has trained the winner 3 times in the past 10 years.
Saeed Bin Suroor (2-3-11) has saddled 2 winners and 3 placed runners in the past decade, including the winner in 2008 and the runner-up in 2009 but will not have a runner in the race this year.
Henry Cecil (0-2-2) has saddled 2 runners in the past decade, 2nd in 2008 and 3rd in 2009.

PRICE
10 of 10 winners were priced 9/1 or below and came from the first 4 in the betting.
Not a race to be looking for a big outsider with the last 10 winners going off at single figure odds.
Favourites (5-1-10) have won 5 of the last 10, giving a level stakes profit of 5.37.

SUMMARY:
Based on the trends from the past 10 years you are looking for a horse:
• Aged 4
• Won over at least a mile
• Won a group 1 or 2
• Having their first run in GB or Ire this season & first run in this race
• Officially rated 113 or higher
• From the first 4 in the betting (Fav does well)
• Trained by Michael Stoute or Henry Cecil
Report downallstar May 11, 2010 12:56 PM BST
Cheers Lumberg.

Yaboya - going by the dec's (jockey declared) it would look like Zacinto runs. 3/1 looks big.
Report IrisDeBalme May 12, 2010 5:19 PM BST
Grade 1 race... and the big three have not priced it up ...

disgraceful!
Report Graeme83 May 12, 2010 5:21 PM BST
That's what i went for das. Doubled it up with a tactical bet with Workforce.
Report A_T May 12, 2010 6:51 PM BST
Very poor field for a G1. But hopefully Zacinto will become a top horse for this year.
Report downallstar May 13, 2010 12:09 PM BST
Ladcrooks go 4/1 Zacinto, thanks very much. Devil
Report ben10 May 13, 2010 12:22 PM BST
4/1 is big, best time to catch Stoute's older horses is first time up I find, he gets them ready and a line through Rip would suggest there is not a lot between him and Paco Boy (discounting wfa).
Report BritBronco May 15, 2010 10:10 AM BST
Zacinto and Shanakill on the trends then.
Joining the e/w charge on the Lord.
Report nibbledat May 15, 2010 10:27 AM BST
stoutes misfiring at moment imo so wouldnt want to be taking those prices about zacinto
Report downallstar May 15, 2010 10:29 AM BST
Not his 4yo's nibb [;)]
Report nibbledat May 15, 2010 10:32 AM BST
Plain
Report downallstar May 15, 2010 10:35 AM BST
Mischief
Report Figgis May 15, 2010 1:54 PM BST
Paco Boy wins if at his best but I think there's a real danger he could bounce after his latest win so I'm laying at the short price.
Report Figgis May 15, 2010 3:08 PM BST
Or maybe not, terrific performance.
Report geoff m May 15, 2010 3:12 PM BST
that was superb.
Looked as tho Hughsie might be a tad overconfident but the way he quickend was stunning.
Report gsus May 15, 2010 3:17 PM BST
look forward to a rematch with rip van winkle and goldikova in the queen anne at royal ascot.
Report fuzzyone May 15, 2010 3:19 PM BST
Hope they get a run into Goldikova before ascot Love
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