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marvinho
17 Apr 10 19:49
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This race looks like it is really going to cut up imo, similarly to the Scottish National this week, and I think Lacdoudal will go off at half his current odds (33/1 best at the Irish lot)

Loves Sandown, with the exception of his last race there and won this race 3 years ago off a 16lb higher mark. 3rd beaten 2 lengths last year off 140 (now 136).

Sure, he's 11 years old now but showed real zest in the cross country at cheltenham and the fact that it turns into a sprint on the run in wouldn't have suited him at all, he ran a blinder - with Garde Champetre in behind.

A New Story has since ran a cracker in the Irish National, franking the form of that festival race.

Lacdoudal is incredibly consistent with 20 top 3 finishes in 32 chases and looks a solid ew bet in a race where at least half of those ahead of him in the betting probably won't run, with many of those that do having hard races in the big end of season staying handicaps already

Hobbs remains in good form and won this with an old timer in Monkerhostin in 2008.

Who's with me?!
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Report Dark Destroyer April 17, 2010 8:05 PM BST
I am B-)
Report Howdi April 17, 2010 8:11 PM BST
me too
Report trev w April 17, 2010 8:37 PM BST
this is massive value imo....only backed 2 in this so far wind instrument for small money on here..probably needs it softer....and may not even make the cut..backed around 80s on here.

and lacdoudal @ 33s e/w....if he'd not shown some life at chelts...would have left alone...but now off of 136....looks a great e/w bet. g/l.
Report GT April 17, 2010 8:47 PM BST
i likey too :)
Report nibbledat April 17, 2010 8:48 PM BST
course form of 23171330 and hobbs record of 2 wins and 4 places from 11 runners screams 'go get the value'.

all aboard B-)
Report marvinho April 17, 2010 8:49 PM BST
this could be my very first forum chaaaaaaaaaaarge!
Report trev w April 17, 2010 8:52 PM BST
the way the last months gone....feel this already over the line :D
Report downallstar April 17, 2010 8:53 PM BST
B-)
1st class seat please....
Report trev w April 17, 2010 9:08 PM BST
there are only 10 1st class seats got this ride....7 been filled..3 left....

outside the 10...your in with the baggage i'm afraid.
Report nibbledat April 17, 2010 9:12 PM BST
i was thinking more the roof trev :^0
Report trev w April 17, 2010 9:13 PM BST
yeah...but dont want any feet blocking my window view.. :^0
Report nibbledat April 17, 2010 9:13 PM BST
:^0
Report downallstar April 17, 2010 9:19 PM BST
:^0
Report trev w April 17, 2010 9:21 PM BST
anything you want me too put forward to betfair gents ??
Report nibbledat April 17, 2010 9:26 PM BST
que ?:|
Report trev w April 17, 2010 9:30 PM BST
got invited to betfair for some forum chat or something....90 mins...£100 quid...

on thursday...gonna try and have a word about AR if i get the chance.
Report nibbledat April 17, 2010 9:33 PM BST
ask them if they have accepted my brothers offer of takeover
Report downallstar April 17, 2010 9:34 PM BST
Yeah, thank them for banning AR.
Report nibbledat April 17, 2010 9:35 PM BST
:^0
Report trev w April 17, 2010 9:36 PM BST
:^0
Report trev w April 17, 2010 9:37 PM BST
what about more antepost markets ?
Report downallstar April 17, 2010 9:39 PM BST
:D

Yeah - think that thread they put up was a great idea, as long as the monitor it.

They need to sort out the posting issues, dunno how many times i've had to retype a post in the past week.
Report nibbledat April 17, 2010 9:39 PM BST
ask them why the forum goes up sh1t creek every saturday
Report trev w April 17, 2010 9:41 PM BST
right gonna watch amegan fox film :x laters
Report downallstar April 17, 2010 9:41 PM BST
Maybe put up a separate thread trev? Might get some good feedback?
Report downallstar April 17, 2010 9:42 PM BST
Laters, am of to watch a dvd myself, no megan fox though :(
Report nibbledat April 17, 2010 9:43 PM BST
just watched harry brown,
the men who stare at goats is next
laters ;)
Report trev w April 17, 2010 9:43 PM BST
**k off...dont want all the nutters spouting off :^0

you 2 bad enough ;\
Report scottyroller April 17, 2010 9:54 PM BST
scottyroller 13 Apr 20:47


e.c theres a horse going carrying ur forum name and i watched it lto out aand looked to me like it would win next time out u heard iof it? it runs saturday...




trev w 13 Apr 20:49


scotty whats it called



hope u were on trev

can i have a seat on the bus please guys..:D
Report Steeplechasing April 17, 2010 10:00 PM BST
Lacdoudal used to be one of my favourites before his lengthy layoff. He showed some signs of a return to form last season but I think he's gone backwards and fallen out of love with it. His apparent resurgence at Cheltenham was, to my mind, down to the novelty factor of the cross-country.

These are notoriously poor races to read 'standard' form into as there are so many twists and turns, the horses never get galloping properly as they do under normal rules (there were 11 in with a chance two out at Cheltenham). I suppose there is a chance Lacdoudal's enthusiasm for racing will have been rekindled by the race, but my guess is he is getting a bit sour and will disappoint at Sandown.

I've long thought there is a decent staying chase in Nenuphar Collonges and I think the Whitbread could be it. Value at 48 on here imo.
Report onthenoseinfo April 17, 2010 10:03 PM BST
sh it am i too late?
Report trev w April 17, 2010 10:19 PM BST
steeple..his form last yr was cack..apart from his runs @ sandown..which were both v.decent.

agree with what say about the cross country races...but his finishing position can still only be looked upon as a positive....he could easily run a big race again back here..and the price is just too big.
Report onthenoseinfo April 17, 2010 10:22 PM BST
evenin trev...that 33s still there so i'll join the stampede for a few quid...this forum has been on fire recently eh
Report trev w April 17, 2010 10:25 PM BST
nosey ;)
9 seats filled only one 1st class seat left :0
Report onthenoseinfo April 17, 2010 10:27 PM BST
only really starting to look at the race but i aint travelling with the riff raf next to the bogs and nibbs creme egg wrappers ;-)
Report Steeplechasing April 17, 2010 10:38 PM BST
trev, he rarely runs a bad race at Sandown but he was very poor there in February and his three runs this season, prior to Cheltenham, were pretty bad.

My reading of his run in the CC is that it just confirms that he has 'gone' at the game under normal rules and has had enough. He is entitled to be worn out as he invariably gave his all when running regularly, often under big weights for his relatively light frame, and with the further drawback of having to battle back after a blunder.

I hope I am wrong as he was such a brave horse in his prime.
Report CVByrne April 17, 2010 10:50 PM BST
I joined in, charge has already started so can't be missed. Season ends that day for me too :)
Report Tucho April 17, 2010 11:42 PM BST
Didn't realise he hasn't won for 4 years!
Report trev w April 18, 2010 4:42 PM BST
i see briery fox won today...who was 2nd in this last yr..just in front of lacdoudal
wonder if daly might try & turn him out again quickly...with a pen.

either way as a 12 yrd old...it just shows these old boys can produce the goods under optimum conditions..good ground/ RH.( race was @ ascot ).
Report platinni April 18, 2010 6:07 PM BST
that was a shocking race today trev
Report trev w April 19, 2010 4:03 PM BST
plat ..not a blinder i know...but knowhere ran well enough against erics charm, with dom d'orgeval behind..whos run well since... oscar parks run a couple of half decent races...and i was expecting pretty star to run a big race back @ ascot off 122...considering he ran any currency close off 131 @ ascot in nov.
but it was really just that the old boys are not completely out of it if everythings right for them..

lacdoudal best price 16s now...as low as 12s
Report platinni April 19, 2010 4:15 PM BST
i agree chief, looking at one meself

gl
Report trev w April 19, 2010 4:16 PM BST
not alderburn is it ?
Report Dark Destroyer April 19, 2010 4:18 PM BST
Hope its Eric :^0
Report trev w April 19, 2010 4:18 PM BST
and temoin needs it a bit softer ? ;\
Report trev w April 19, 2010 4:20 PM BST
been looking at both those this afters...
Report downallstar April 19, 2010 4:25 PM BST
I like one at 33/1............. not sure if he runs.................?
Report trev w April 19, 2010 4:29 PM BST
das....tam ?
Report platinni April 19, 2010 4:31 PM BST
tam is mine trevor
Report trev w April 19, 2010 4:31 PM BST
knew i'd get it in the end :^0
Report downallstar April 19, 2010 4:33 PM BST
Yes tam
Report downallstar April 19, 2010 4:34 PM BST
Plat ;) B-)

Just looking at his record over 3miles, its very good.
Report platinni April 19, 2010 4:36 PM BST
indeed das
Report trev w April 19, 2010 4:37 PM BST
nice mark now fo sho...been on the short list with all cource winners here....slight doubt about the trip ?
Report platinni April 19, 2010 4:39 PM BST
maybe trev, only shortlisting at the mo
Report downallstar April 19, 2010 4:40 PM BST
Tamarinbleu over 3miles over fences -
1st 24f Perth Hcap chase of 140
2nd 24f Haydock btn 1/2L in G1
8th 24f kempton - King George
2nd 25f Wetherby - btn shd G2
2nd 24f Donc - btn 1L by Chief Dan George - he won WH Hcap chase nto off 6lbs higher.

-
Report platinni April 19, 2010 4:42 PM BST
you can forgive the KS run
Report trev w April 19, 2010 4:43 PM BST
yes & considering what the chief may have done...nat,scottish or here...could have been made to look a whole lot better...
perhaps a mini charge within a charge :0
Report trev w April 19, 2010 4:50 PM BST
yeah i'm up for some this...the chief form lines...gives him every chance...when you look at the packages price...
Report trev w April 19, 2010 4:51 PM BST
has run well enough RH over the yrs aswell.
Report downallstar April 19, 2010 4:52 PM BST
The King George run? Well it was only a month after a (near)career best , was bound to have taken a toll. Plenty of horses have run stinkers in the GC and bounced back!
Report platinni April 19, 2010 4:54 PM BST
backed him at 33's with bet366
Report trev w April 19, 2010 4:54 PM BST
gobbled a bit on here & 33s wiv billys..........
Report downallstar April 19, 2010 4:56 PM BST
33s paddy
Report trev w April 19, 2010 4:57 PM BST
plat das....cast yer eyes over alderburn for me....the calgary / niche market races in paticular...your thought ta.
Report platinni April 19, 2010 4:58 PM BST
nearly backed him at aintre trev and should have done better, dalys course form shocking
Report downallstar April 19, 2010 5:02 PM BST
trev -
He may be a December horse? 6 runs, 3wins and 3 places.
Report trev w April 19, 2010 5:05 PM BST
cheers boys
Report downallstar April 19, 2010 5:26 PM BST
Was my CC horse in 2008 :o
Report enjbenjy April 19, 2010 5:29 PM BST
Anyone fancy The Tother One? Has a nice pull with The Package based on a couple of runs although accept The Package has improved. Shapes like he stays and has good course form albeit over hurdles. Might need some rain though.
Report enjbenjy April 19, 2010 5:31 PM BST
Just seen a couple on the other thread too.
Report nibbledat April 19, 2010 6:29 PM BST
tam is sh1t
Report CVByrne April 19, 2010 6:44 PM BST
You guys do all the work you know that. Tam looks a good one, don't know about the distance. I remember him fading on the run in in the betfair chase when Snoopy f'n Loopy won in 2008.
Report trev w April 24, 2010 2:44 PM BST
where the lacdoudal & tammy charges began ;)

g/l all
Report platinni April 24, 2010 2:49 PM BST
gl boys !

nervous ?

:D
Report proctor strikes April 24, 2010 3:07 PM BST
gl all
Report trev w April 24, 2010 3:17 PM BST
laccy did us proud @ 33s
Report proctor strikes April 24, 2010 3:18 PM BST
Well Done marvinho - nice return.
Report Steeplechasing April 24, 2010 4:08 PM BST
Unlucky lads - he ran way better than I thought he would
Report CVByrne April 24, 2010 4:57 PM BST
He ran well and the place side @ 33's is nice enough.
Report marvinho April 25, 2010 3:21 PM BST
was there to see it and was a cracking run from him and the old guard in general in the race.
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