PUNCHESTOWN FESTIVAL THREAD.

barker is the only one that interests me at the prices tbh
what went wrong at chelt ?:|

Nibb - he was badly injured in the John Durkan, cant recall exactly what it was off hand. First run in a while at Chelt, hard to know if he's still as good as before?

didnt handle track imo td

see, a sensible answer was only required my good friend.

i've had a small bet on LML when the decent odds were available, but if a few of you are having decent bets on BSM, i wish you good luck.

;\

cheers down

tensions rising ;\

thank you old bean, may ur horse run like the wind for you

plat up to mischief imo. ;)

it's called discussion ydc's ;\

count me out then

:)

who will be riding twist magic please ?:|

AP or paddy i reckon

maguire ?:|

sorry should have said ..AP or a paddy :^0

Blackstairmountain looks like one that is better RH TD. He also met with a setback in the run-up to Cheltenham, missing an intended target at Naas, so I'm much more inclined to judge him on his LTO effort when he shaped a better horse than Luska Lad (who's a 150 type on his Gowran win) before the ground did for him.

:^0

Propsero - are you worried about how hard a race that was lto for Bsm? It was no doubt a big run as I said above, but it was on unraceable ground against a very tough nut.

I am. But he hasn't had a hard season and the favourite had a tough race even closer to the event. More importantly though it looks the best form and he's the joint-fourth choice the betting.

Got a flight booked from Birmingham on Thursday morning, what chance!

start bookin the ferry now mate !

Fair points Prosp, also guess Ruby agrees seeing as he picked him over Flat Out in the Supreme.

Getting that close to Luska Lad is also pretty decent form, just re watched that race and he just got tired in the ground against a very game horse, so the better ground should suit. gl.

morning gents....who's heading up tomorrow? great that it starts late in the day should get a big crowd in...

Morning... nosey, Gunward ;)

Doubt I'll get tomorrow nosey, maybe Wed? :|

You know if Rare Bob goes in the GC? Or to Sandown?

tomorrow looks a cert for me with the airports still closed - wed too if i can wriggle out of work....not sure on the other days :|

not seen owt re Rare Bob yet

is 5/2 buying money on Zaarito - fallers insurance likely to be at what price?

11/10 prob

i've never been racing in Ireland, think I should head over soon B-)

thats tight but looks fair when you consider the race and the horse!

you should Gun, always good craic at the big meets

Faller ins is usually 0.5pt shorter, but was 1pt shorter for Zaarito lto.
6/4?

hope your right Down, surely if he doesn't crumble he scoots in!?

1.01 I could spot Gunny in a packed Punchestown :D :p

The dashing good looking guy

:^0

No, the cross between Ian Poulter & Chappers :^0

1 -1155406 Baron De'l (IRE) 43 D2 b 7 (120) 11-12 Andrew J. Mcnamara
E. P. Harty, Ireland


2 120-1102 Blackstairmountain (IRE) 15 C1 D3 CD1 5 (141) 11-12 P. Townend
W. P. Mullins, Ireland


3 321115 Flat Out (FR) 34 C1 D3 CD1 5 (140) 11-12 E. Mullins
W. P. Mullins, Ireland


4 11-12U1 General Miller 10 D1 5 (148) 11-12 B. J. Geraghty
N. J. Henderson


5 221P Grey Soldier (IRE) 51 D1 t 5 (124) 11-12 Davy Russell
Gordon Elliott, Ireland


6 111214 Loosen My Load (IRE) 15 D3 6 (137) 11-12 A. E. Lynch
Henry De Bromhead, Ireland


7 338-312 Rollwiththepunches 27 t 5 (130) 11-12 Paul Moloney
P. J. Mcbride


8 14741 Some Slam (IRE) 40 D2 5 (123) 11-12 Niall Madden
Thomas Mullins, Ireland


9 1-11147 Sweeps Hill (NZ) 113 C2 D4 CD2 6 (133) 11-12 A. P. Mccoy
John E. Kiely, Ireland


10 0345-1 Tilabay (IRE) 217 D1 5 (130) 11-12
Shane Buggy, Ireland

1 0112-1UP Barker (IRE) 32 C1 D4 CD1 9 (155) 11-12 D. J. Casey
W. P. Mullins, Ireland


2 4-F23154 Cornas (NZ) 31 D2 8 (150) 11-12 D. A. Jacob
Nick Williams


3 47-P0433 Don't Be Bitin (IRE) 13 C1 D4 CD1 9 (134) 11-12
Colm A. Murphy, Ireland


4 21-22222 Forpadydeplasterer (IRE) 10 C1 D4 CD1 8 (165) 11-12
Thomas Cooper, Ireland


5 7-411261 Golden Silver (FR) 13 D2 8 (161) 11-12
W. P. Mullins, Ireland


6 1212-13F Kalahari King (FR) 10 C1 D3 9 (162) 11-12 G. Lee
Ferdy Murphy


7 50P2-162 Natal (FR) 50 D1 9 (147) 11-12
J. J. Lambe, Ireland


8 12751-33 Salford City (IRE) 318 D6 b+t 9 (146) 11-12
Gordon Elliott, Ireland


9 -3543162 Scotsirish (IRE) 10 C1 D3 9 (157) 11-12
W. P. Mullins, Ireland


10 5-411111 Sizing Europe (IRE) 34 C4 D5 CD2 8 (155) 11-12 A. E. Lynch
Henry De Bromhead, Ireland


11 6F1-311P Twist Magic (FR) 33 C1 D7 CD1 8 (172) 11-12 A. P. Mccoy
P. F. Nicholls

lol down, same colour hair as those two

1 -4314544 China Rock (IRE) 32 7 (138) 11-10 Niall Madden
M. F. Morris, Ireland


2 1F/F3411 Jadanli (IRE) 15 8 (148) 11-10 A. E. Lynch
P. J. Gilligan, Ireland


3 -2F2211P Kempes (IRE) 15 7 (144) 11-10
W. P. Mullins, Ireland


4 -32144F4 Lenabane (IRE) 10 C1 8 (141) 11-10
D. T. Hughes, Ireland


5 7043111F Saddlers Storm (IRE) 14 D1 8 (128) 11-10 Davy Russell
A. J. Martin, Ireland


6 3-14F313 The Midnight Club (IRE) 32 C1 9 (140) 11-10 E. Mullins
W. P. Mullins, Ireland


7 21F66F23 Whatuthink (IRE) 14 8 (143) 11-10
Oliver Mckiernan, Ireland


8 3F21FF1F Zaarito (IRE) 15 C1 8 (150) 11-10
Colm A. Murphy, Ireland

Gunny, I guessed as much ;)

Some Slam - Whoosh!

Looks like I didn't gain any advantage backing LML, back out to 10s, Bsm into 5s :|

How come only PP have any races priced up?

Forpady ew @9/2 1/4 odds a must?

Also why is Sweeps hill 5/1 when it's been hammered last two runs?

thats the play das imo

no idea why sh is 5/1 tbh , shocking price

Agree about Sweeps, wtf?
Same with KK why is he still fav?

hype

Whats your views on Sizing & Twist, plat?

:x sizing but he's a bit short

never been a fan of TM. that said have never backed FPTP either tbh :0

Sizing is the interesting one.

Twist is a place lay for me.

Forpaddy e/w is the sensible play though.

Yeah love Sizing was my biggest winner at Chelt :x
Alway back forpady(ew)

Hate Twist Magic(lol) - he is def going the right way - RH, but is a hard horse to ride, and only wins for Ruby imo. Am wary of him though, as he's won here before. :|

maybe some of the other books will take on SE? 5, 11/2 would be a play imo. 3's not so much

Hopefully, could be good support for Twist maybe force a few prices out? 3s is a bit skinny.

Denman looks a top price... if hes in decent shape he has no real competition... maybe along the same thinking as PoS i would put up TSea as he hasnt been tested over the distance

other early plays include captain cb and twist magic...

handicaps dont look great really

TM's beating of Natal here is hardly great form is it.

I don't think the Ruby Factor is relevant with Twist Magic as he has run well and won for other pilots. I would be more concerned that this race looks a lot stronger than the one he won last year and it's not as if he won easy.

also in the Sizing Europe love camp :x hope he wins, but he's had a long season.....

Kempes ew at 16s ? A much better animal on decent ground.

Got to admit I can't see why Blackstairmountain is considered a shoe in. Would prefer to be on Flat out especially since he has had a longer break.

Flat Out and Tavern Times are the sniff jobs imo wherever they turn up.

Did Townend even get a choice on riding Flat Out? E.Mullins was on him before chelt when he won, and obviously didn't ride at chelt because he was injured.

zaarito is a shoo

zaarito is a shoo

Thought he was a horse?

Nibber :x

would be if he doesn't decide to fall down again :|

wont be taking fallers insurance either

:x

nibb manning up B-)

Is Condon on again?

Yeah he is Benjy.

Cheers.

Captain Cee Bee out of Champion Hurdle

BY RACING POST STAFF 1:07PM 19 APR 2010

CAPTAIN CEE BEE will not revert to hurdles for Friday's Rabobank Champion Hurdle at Punchestown after being withdrawn by trainer Eddie Harty at Monday's confirmation stage.

Captain Cee Bee burst a blood vessel when 5-2 favourite for the Irish Independent Arkle Chase at the Cheltenham Festival last month and finished down the field.
Harty had suggested that JP McManus' nine-year-old could contest the Grade 1 2m hurdle if it "cut up terribly", but he is now likely to line up in the Ryanair Novice Chase on Thursday.

Last year's first and second Solwhit and Punjabi were among the 12 still in the running, along with 2009 Evening Herald Champion Novice Hurdle winner Hurricane Fly, star mares Quevega and Voler La Vedette and Spinal Research Supreme Novices' Hurdle third Dunguib.

Can't be arsed going through the whole thread but why exactly should Blackstairmountain reverse Cheltenham form with Flat Out please? ?:|

Prospero 18 Apr 21:39
Blackstairmountain looks like one that is better RH TD. He also met with a setback in the run-up to Cheltenham, missing an intended target at Naas, so I'm much more inclined to judge him on his LTO effort when he shaped a better horse than Luska Lad (who's a 150 type on his Gowran win) before the ground did for him.

Twist Magic has yet to beat a decent horse away from Sandown. So opposing him especially with no Ruby on board is prob best.

Exeter run with loads of weight was pretty decent though.

Grey Soldier for Gordon Elliott at 16/1, highly regarded. Kempton was too bad to be true, very heavily backed, also look what Escort'men has done since at Aintree. Escort'men's form in France was nothing to write home about and it was a shock for punters.

I just have to look past Willie Mullins this week with no Ruby Ruby Ruby.

Other thoughts this week: strongly against Denman and Kalahari King, but not laying. I like Son Amix a lot in the 4 y-o hurdle, wonder if Orsippus will run.

Would love to see War of Attrition win the gold Cup, would be sick to see Punjabi win the Punchestown CH on Friday, having backed him heavily win only at 4/1 last year.

Denman meets Joncol in Guinness Gold Cup

BY RACING POST STAFF 10:19AM 20 APR 2010

DENMAN and Joncol will clash in Wednesday's Guinness Gold Cup at the Punchestown festival after both were among 12 horses declared on Tuesday.

Tony McCoy retains the ride on Denman, as does Alain Cawley with Joncol, while Paul Carberry stands in for the injured Paddy Flood on last year's Boylesports.com Champion Novice Chase winner RareBob.
Cooldine and J'y Vole, to be ridden by Paul Townend and David Casey respectively, represent champion trainer Willie Mullins and former winners of the race Notre Pere and War Of Attrition are also set to do battle.

For War Of Attrition, the mount of Davy Russell, it will be the final run of his illustrious career.

The Queen's Barbers Shop and the Philip Hobbs-trained Planet Of Sound complete the British-trained trio.

Miss Mitch, Master Medic and Royal County Star were the three horses not declared.

B-)

Joncol running on good ground :0

Reports say it top quality NH Good ground. Plenty of water been put on.

Think Willie has the 2m nov hurdle wrapped up with Blackstair and Flat Out. The CC is a wide open race, can't wait to see how SE gets on against the big boys. Like Rebecca Curtis' in the Land Rover Bumper and I think Zaarito is a huge price to win the 3m1f nov chase!
Agree that Tavern Times is a great bet in the PP Champ Bumper tomorrow, that Cheltenham Bumper form is working out really well! And don't forget Sivota tomorrow too.......

I'm thinking Joncol and Denman forecast is the one. The rest of the field not so good. I feel Joncol is an improver and don't buy into him being a swamp fiend. Denners just too good for rhis lot if even remotely interested

Denman has put two good runs back to back since he won his Gold Cup, a concern for anyone?

has notput....

Denman has put two good runs back to back since he won his Gold Cup, a concern for anyone?

I know he fell twice but he was running well at both Aintree and Newbury til he fell.......

He was not running well. He looked beat both times.

Denman is a massive lay. He needs soft ground. He had another hard race in the GC. Don't get taken in regarding comments along lines of, 'never had him better' etc etc - heard it all before only for horses to disappoint.

Cant agree COM. Was beaten both times before falling. Niche Market had him in trouble even before the first mistake at Newbury too.

Come off it das, he'd have won at newbury. Aintree is too soon after cheltenham. Punchestown is not.

Cv - he was in trouble at Newbry before the 1st mistake, take of the rose tinted... :|

I think I have to oppose him tomorrow.........?

He was in trouble alright, but he'd still have won. How fr was tricky trickster behind? Niche market tired cose to home, denman had run it out of him. Also you'd think nicholls would hve learnt his esson with denman after aintree ast year. So I think he'll be in good enough shape to beat the rag tag horses we have as staying chasers over here.

I'm not sying he should be backed but he defo woud have had enough t newbury.

Eye Mall Inn 20 Apr 15:11
heard negative word for Blackstairmountain in the ring.

Geraghty seems to think Ruby would have ridden Flat Out fwiw.

Already on Some Slam

1 11612143 Archie Boy (IRE) 11 D4 cp 8 (144) 11-12
Paul Flynn, Ireland


2 11P/1F18 Captain Cee Bee (IRE) 36 C2 D5 CD2 9 (154) 11-12
E. P. Harty, Ireland


3 3111U529 Fosters Cross (IRE) 36 D2 8 (135) 11-12
Thomas Mullins, Ireland


4 -411141P Let Yourself Go (IRE) 17 D1 8 (143) 11-12
Adrian Maguire, Ireland


5 0-112332 Osana (FR) 11 D3 cp 8 (150) 11-12
E. J. O'Grady, Ireland


6 025-1711 Psycho (IRE) 16 C1 D3 CD1 9 (145) 11-12 Davy Russell
A. J. Martin, Ireland


7 114-3115 Riverside Theatre 36 D4 6 (149) 11-12 B. J. Geraghty
N. J. Henderson


8 -52F113F Roberto Goldback (IRE) 17 8 (145) 11-12
Mrs J. Harrington, Ireland


9 U332144P Schelm (GER) 11 D2 8 (139) 11-12 D. J. Casey
Ronald O'Leary, Ireland


10 -211-120 Sports Line (IRE) 36 C2 D3 CD2 7 (145) 11-12
W. P. Mullins, Ireland

sepp blatter 18 Apr 20:32


this race is the race no one can win,think denman is coming to the end of his career,plus the gold cup was a very poor race,imperial got beat after,mon mome got 3rd.joncol - heavy,whats up with cooldine,

the only possible winner - dont laugh - planet of sound,will like the going - untried at 3m,but as beat calgary,close to albertas,3rd in an arkle - the usual route to gold cup success,if you ignore its last 2 runs - reported breathing problems lto,its 3rd top rated and the unknown but potentially the best horse.none of the others look capable

hope some off you at least had a look at planet of sound

very well done sepp ;)

Sepp - I hope I didn't put you off at all, I actually changed my mind (see day2 thread) and backed him :^0

dc

get **ked