I'm not getting too worried yet.

They'll transport her by ferry if necessary...

We will never give up. Stand tight comrades.

I'm 99% sure I read a quote from Hannon saying she wouldn't be fast enough for the Guineas and that she'll go to the Pretty Polly or Musidora, yet every quote I've read since then seems to suggest she'll be running.

Neither. I've got Tabassum (29s, 38s, 40s), Lady Darshaan (95s), Hibaayeb (95-130s) and Sent From Heaven (90s-190s). Staked roughly £140, lowest winner's £570 (Lady Darshaan). The latter's an incredibly silly price. Beaten comfortably by Lady Darshaan and Hibaayeb but she should have held onto 3rd. If she can learn to settle and race just off the pace, she has a big shout.

Can't have Seta. All hype, no substance IMO. Can't have Music Show either. How many Group 1 winners has Channon trained? Tabassum is the best part of a stone better in my eyes, just needs to be fresh and was on the slower ground at HQ for the Rockfel.

I'd say my 1st pick is Tabassum, but I'm very keen on Sent From Heaven.

Yup, I agree. She's very free and she'll probably try to make all. You can't be a tired horse and do that at Newmarket.

SK, you have made the understandable mistake of reading far too much into these trials. Special Duty still has the best form going into the 1000 Guineas, thanks to her impressive beating of Misheer (easy winner of the Gr.2 Cherry Hinton), Lady Of The Desert (impressive winner of the Gr.2 Lowther) and Puff, who is clearly a smart filly in her own right, as she showed today at Newbury. Both Misheer and LOTD seemed to struggle over the longer trip today, but the fact remains that they were very smart 6f fillies last year and today's result at Newbury in no way undermines the Cheveley Park form. It was just a trial and we have no way of knowing how forward any of them were. Arcano was clearly nowhere near fully fit today and it would be crazy to take his running in the Greenham literally. Canford Cliffs is clearly a sprinter (as many of us had predicted) and looked impressive today until fading in the final furlong, so I fail to see how his performance undermines the Prix Morny form. We won't know for sure whether Special Duty will get the mile until she runs in the Guineas, but the trainer is certain that it wasn't the 7f trip that got her beaten in the Prix Imprudence.

If you want to pull apart the 6f form, you could make the same argument about the 7f and 8f fillies. Long Lashes beat Blue Maiden in the Sweet Solera, Blue Maiden was narrowly beaten by Music Show in the Nell Gwyn. Music Show narrowly beat Atasari and Tabassum in the Rockfel. There is very little to choose between Pollenator, Hibaayeb, Seta, Lady Darshaan, Sent From Heaven etc on last season's form over a mile: the only one of those that appeals is Seta, who is almost certainly capable of reversing the May Hill form with Pollenator. I agree that Tabassum is probably capable of better than she showed in the Rockfel - Stoute has admitted that he ran her again too soon after the Oh So Sharp Stakes - but the form still leaves her with something to find, and she's a 'fizzy' filly with very little physical scope.

Great reply as always james.

Does Seta not have to much stamina in her pedigree for the 1000?

Let's cut to the chase.this years renewal is terrible.

puff won fto!!or are you referring to Queens Grace?

Puff might stay..SD and others from Chevely wont imo.

We havent seen 1000 winner imo.

I cant have that Tabassum is a stone better personally at this stage than Music Show. Although I am a backer of Music Show so am biased. It may well turn out that way I suppose but it isn't true on current form.

If you use Blue Maiden as a guide then at the moment you could say that Tabassum could be about 4 or 5lbs better than Music Show. Given that Tabassum's best run was in the Group 3 she won beating Blue Maiden just under 8 lengths. Music Show beat the same filly on Wednesday by half a length but carrying 3lbs more. So on the very bare form you'd say 4/5 lbs.

That is of course assuming that Blue Maiden and Tabassum have trained on/improved at exactly the same level as each other over the winter since they last met. It also doesn't factor in how much more Music Show appeared to need the run than the others before the Nell Gwynn, to say she didn't look tip top in the paddock is an understatement. Unless you have some insider knowledge that suggests otherwise I think saying a stone better is a little far fetched at this stage.

I rate Tabassum a real danger to my money on Music Show but I think there is very little in it. However I'm happy to stick with mine for now given that she has won the tria,l will have needed the run and in my opinion has the best form in the book at this stage. Including winning the Rockfell in the style of a horse that looks to stay the mile better than anything else we have seen so far IMO. Tabassum may well need to be fresh to show her best but this is only speculation at this stage. I know that Music Show has trained on over the winter and I believe she will come on for the last run, there is less speculation in that for me.

Every year sprinters attempt the guineas. It's one way to identify them as sprinters.

Special Duty has nothing to lose by running in a Classic.

Enpekd, not laid yet, will be place laying on the day though.

SK, thanks for your kind words, but I really don't deserve the accolade, as my tipping has often been wide of the mark in the last few weeks (eg Dyna Waltz ran abysmally in the Nell Gwyn), and plenty of other posters, yourself included, have been making excellent and thoughtful comments

downallstar, re: Seta - I don't think she has too much stamina in her pedigree to make an impact over a mile. She's from the family of Barathea and Gossamer, she will get a mile but not much further. I'd be amazed if we saw her running over a mile and a half (she has not even been entered in the Oaks).

cruise d, I wouldn't recommend using Blue Maiden's performance in the Oh So Sharp Stakes as a guide to the Nell Gwyn form. Blue Maiden clearly failed to give her running behind Tabassum (she needed the run after an interrupted preparation and ran well below form). I also happen to think that Blue Maiden was very unlucky in the Nell Gwyn and that Music Show's win in that race has been overrated (see separate post on the 1000 Guineas thread).

I disagree.

Puff clearly has improved. Was 4/5l bhd LOTDesert in the Lowther,1l bhd her in Cheveley and 1.5l in front in the FDarling.

Misheer for me was the one to take out of yesterday, got tapped for toe a little and rallied well at the end. Definitely needs a mile IMO. No idea if she goes but should IMO.

Did rally a bit but never looked like getting back on top. She pulled herself through nearly the whole race.

Misheer didnt get tapped for toe...she was outstayed (and outpaced)...by Puff who pulled harder than anything else(see video),and from a yard whose horses have been behind...see recent runners.

SK, why wait to place lay until the day? if you laid now you get the chance of her not turning up
i would gladly take up to 100 now at evens if you (or anyone else) puts it up