Captain Cee Bee

yes, only the irish could have an irish equivalent to the irish independant arkle....

good news imo

yep as an Arkle backer, im happy with that :)

really glad to see him running again before chelts....and hopefully an easier confidence boosting win,than going for the irish arkle. nice to see running plans given out this early aswell :)

6/1 best price as well now :0

I'd definitely rather he didnt run again, he's already showed he can win after a lay off as he won the supreme not running after november, he's bled in the past and most 2 milers are best fresh.
strange decision to run him again imo, he'll probably win easily in feb, but will it take the edge off for march?

Must say I'm in two minds about it, both sides make sense, just have to trust them to get him right for the day.

Nonsense.
He's avoiding all the good horses in the Irish arkle and having a quiet confidence booster 5wks prior to cheltenham.
Havent backed the horse but excellent plans by the connections to give the horse its best chance of glory at the festival.
Good luck to them.

1st past....can see your point....but taking the hopefully easier route...i'd sooner see him get some more experience.....but who knows with the weather, he may not get to run anyway if we get another cold spell.

Can see both sides too. Although if they give him another run sooner rather than later they can tick both boxes imo.

If they run him first week of Feb that will still give him 5/6 weeks to be nice and fresh for the big day and if he were mine, I would definitely like to see him have a confidence booster before the Arkle.

i think AP would like to get another spin on him,before the big day also.

I agree ben, getting him to have a clear round of jumping under his belt to get him over that fall but on the flip side running him fresh in the Arkle also makes sense.

Either way I'm willing to trust connections.

Personally think its absolutely the right thing to do.

me,too - would also add that trainer has done a great job to get him back to the level where he's an Arkle contender. Nobody would have been to surprised if he'd performed similarly to e.g. Nicanor on his comeback.

^ probably not a fair example as Nicanor was off three years so getting him back at all is an achievement - but you get the point!

Those with juicy bet's on CCB, are you covering your eye's at the 2nd last..? In case he doesn't get his landing gear down again.

Nah, he'll be 10 lengths clear and easing down by then. He'll step over the last 2 fences

I'd be suprised if he's within a length or two of the leader at the 2nd last, but agree if jumping soundly looks like he'll take the world of beating.

There is a case for running again and not i think,but you have to think connections know what they are doing and just go along with it.One thing for sure if he turns up in March he is the one that i will have on my side,along with Somersby.

Forgive the lack of knowledge but has any horse EVER won the supreme then the arkle, let alone on it's only two course visits?
If they have, it's been a while.

Just going on that, plus the possible big field rough race scenario, he has to be a lay for me.

Not sure you can particularly regard that as a stat. Maybe coming back after a non specfic race to win another non specific Cheltenham race but plenty have done that.

Has anyone got a stat on how many Arkle winners fell on the previous run ?

Has anyone got a stat on how many Arkles were won by the best horse in the field?

Moscow Flyer was the last, not sure how many there have been.

Dei Lucrii 04 Jan 21:17
Forgive the lack of knowledge but has any horse EVER won the supreme then the arkle, let alone on it's only two course visits?
If they have, it's been a while.

Just going on that, plus the possible big field rough race scenario, he has to be a lay for me.

:^0 , had to laugh

http://www.pcsports.ie/AntePostRacing/race%20meetings/racing/Arkle%20Trophy.htm
15/2 for all ye fans, pretty sure it can all be done over the phone.
Serious price in comparison

plat, you backed the Captian ?:|

11/2 best price now :0

Might be a reaction to the Sizing Europe Champion Chase talk.

more likely all the srwedies latching on to it ;\

they know imo B-)

imho theres no chance of sizing europe running in qm champion chase.

9yo fav for the Arkle....................crazy stuff imo.

Why is it crazy?

Maybe FFT B-)

I agree ftm, just pointing it out.

poor fishing down.

sj - just think time/ age will catch up with soon.
Fav's have a poor record, as do fallers, as do older horses.
He's being backed as if he would have beaten Sizing had he stood up, he may have, but we'll never know, i'm not convinced he would have. Either why jumping is the name of the game.

(Classy horse though, and great effort to get him back)

I cant believe downallstar is taking on an Irish horse :0 :p

Gunny, I wasn't fishing :0
But was annoyed not to get a responce from fft :(

;)

fft ;)

Gunny - FO ;\

i dont think an oirish hawrse wins ...id be happy to take somersby,riverside and longrun against the field..

I'm not sure that he knows that he's favourite at the moment tbh

Can ask him for you ;\

Will ask him later, he's having a nap(as he's old) :D

who do you like for the Arkle down ?

Gunny - race is doing my nut in, too hard to call, however from a trends viewpoint - like Somersby, Sports Line & Riverside Theatre.
Tat also fits these, but am not convinced.

If MDH turns up, with a run under his belt I think he'll massacre them!

Would love to see Sizing go for the CC! He is an 8yo, and has 4 runs, which is decent experience for a novice. I'd say if MM doesn't make it he'll def go for it!! If MM turns up prob 5% chance of turning up?

hope you're right about Sports Line, have 33/1. B-)

Gunny has the Arkle winner (nap)

^ CV KNOWS

B-)

Thats fair enough downallstar. I dont think age matters. Horses should be judged season on season not a big beliver in stats

CVByrne 09 Jan 15:04


Gunny has the Arkle winner (nap)



Indeed he has, at 8/1 B-)

While we have him at 20's fft ;)

FFT has 25/1 I'll have you know CV.

lucky b.ugger :p

Sports Line win :p

where do you think Sports Line will run next CV?

Haven't a clue mate. Few meetings at Leopardstown this month hopefully. But he's got to find chases for MDH too

Will he have a go at the Irish Arkle?

sports line will go irish arkle shirley?

:0

who else is gunna run in that, any ideas?

reckon zarrito will....PN said take the breeze might go over

osana , sizing?

oh yeah just seen the entries, looks a winnable race for Sports Line, as Sizing isnt going to run.

take the breeze would p1ss all over them tbf.

Won't come over I don't think.

Well impressed with Take The Breeze though there were some non triers imo amongst the favs in his last race. Nicholls said Irish Arkle for the soft think he could miss Chelts he said Tationa was there main Arkle hope when asked by Luck who said he'd backed TTB.

Could be a The Listener type

Not long now :)

B-)

Sizing :x

Oh dear :(

B-)

:D

B-)

Gwaaaaaaaannnnnnnnn yoooooouuuuuu beeeeeeaaaaaassssssttttttttttt

Gutted :(

Didn't jump well enough early on, well done Sizing backers.

Burst a blood vessel apparently, was akin to Aintree if you think about it

Another chance tomorrow?

one to take on imo think hes best with large breaks in between runs

Captain wins tomorrow.

Hope he dont burst a blood vessel on us again..I love this horse gave me my biggest ever win when he won the supreme..Im a loyal follower and on again tomorrow..All aboard the Cee Beast yesss

place lay imo

In the sense that if he doesn't win he won't place - yes. Class above this lot but will either be first or last (or fell).

Jumps like a snooker table.

Yeah thats the best way to go about it big win bet..Small place lay to cover it..Everyones a winner baby thats no lie..

Champion Chase, full steam ahead ;\

Taken my 16s

I was wondering after a shocking Cheltenham, who I had to look forward to next season that excites me. Dunguib beaten, CCB beaten, Kauto beaten, Tranquil Sea beaten, RoP beaten. But Captain Cee Beast is burying his way right into my heart, gwwaaaaaaan the Captain :) :)

Peddlers Cross Champion Hurdle/Captain Cee Bee Champion Chase double, WADE IN, WADE IN

Peddlers Cross Arkle **

:)

eeF eeF Teeeee Come Celebrate.

Cee Beast, oh yeah.

What a horse..Great scenes at punchestown..You have done me proud Cee Bee won my cheltenham stake on you back and my Zaarito stake this week..I love you Captain Cee Bee

Took some more at 16/1 for Champ Chase, also have him at 23's.

TD, nah he's only 6 isn't he? Win a Champion Hurdle first then an Arkle imo :)

Laddies not quoting him?

They are now 14s

WHAT A HORSE. CAPTAIN CEE BEAST!

William Hills are 10/1 what a joke firm do they think wer all mugs..Is 14/1 now the best price for the Cee Beast.

Congrats on today backers but a very poor ante-post proposition. Two extended periods off with injury and a proven bleeder . . . Not for me!

REDEMPTION

Doubled him with Super Villan at Uttoxeter though, dc :_|

tingle creek should be a hell of a race next year, that speed ball of nicholls that won at aintree, whos name i cant spell, golden silver, big zeb, the captain, sizing europe, somersby, mad max, twist magic, master minded to name a few all potentially in the mix, could be a classic. not to mention the queen mother itself of course. the two mile division has suddenly gone from being a poor relative to a fascinating conundrum.

Even if Jesus himself turned up at Sandown Twisty would muller him.