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Terry Venables
04 Apr 10 10:16
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Nice prep for Saturday's big race.

There's an Irish horse lurking down the bottom of the list that I like.

Will wait for weights more bookies to price up before steaming in ;)
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Report Meat Loaf April 4, 2010 11:28 AM BST
I think I know the winner to this race. I'm hoping it will be a decent price ;)
Report Me2 April 4, 2010 11:32 AM BST
Apparently, there is an Irish horse lurking near the top of the h'cap as well. Scotsirish is a possible! Will probably get bogged down with the weight, but I love to see the top horses competing in h'caps.
Report Terry Venables April 4, 2010 11:38 AM BST
Me2

Is he a runner??
Report proctor strikes April 4, 2010 12:12 PM BST
TV - will ur one stay? (if im thinking the same one)- never seemed to get home when tried over further and u need to stay in this.
Report Terry Venables April 4, 2010 12:26 PM BST
^

agreed not a cast iron stayer, but reckon hes been prepped up for this.

Had an entry for the plate @ the festival maybe or a guide to his mark for this.

Was staying on over hurdles lto over 20F.

A lot will depend on his price.

The other one that could go well from overseas is Offshore Account.
Report Me2 April 4, 2010 3:03 PM BST
TV, Mullins says Scotsirish is a possible, in today's RP.

Personally, I'll be on Offshore Account. I've been on it each time it has run in this country this season . . .
Report Terry Venables April 4, 2010 4:02 PM BST
Me2

Thanks, I like Scotsirish I also like OA!!

Did WM mention any other targets for Aintree??
Report Far From Trouble April 4, 2010 5:15 PM BST
TV, Is this the one that I liked for the Plate as well iyo? :|
Report sintonian April 4, 2010 5:20 PM BST
I liked Offshore Account for the main event, not sure about him for this tbh.
Report Terry Venables April 4, 2010 5:23 PM BST
FFT

eye ;)
Report Terry Venables April 4, 2010 5:26 PM BST
I Think :^0
Report Far From Trouble April 4, 2010 5:26 PM BST
yep ;)
Report Terry Venables April 4, 2010 5:27 PM BST
You like for this??
Report Extreme Conviction April 4, 2010 5:28 PM BST
Oodachee's a banging price at 25-1 with Laddies imo, might get on now
Report Far From Trouble April 4, 2010 5:28 PM BST
If an intended runner TV yes. ;)
Report Terry Venables April 4, 2010 5:28 PM BST
backed him last year EC
Report Terry Venables April 4, 2010 5:30 PM BST
They jumped off at the second attempt after a false start first time in this 2m4f handicap hurdle and it was the favourite PLAISIR D´ESTRUVAL, who scored off his light weight to justify plenty of market support despite been 2lb out of the handicap proper. The fact he was 25lb better off over hurdles compared to his chase mark made him an attractive betting medium for many and he didn´t let his supporters down.

He needed every yard of this trip and it was only well up the run-in that he reeled in his market rival to score a shade comfortably in the end under a good ride. Trainer Arthur Moore will enter his winner in the Topham at Aintree and reckons the 2m6f and the National fences should suit him but Punchestown will also be considered.
Report Far From Trouble April 4, 2010 5:31 PM BST
but Punchestown will also be considered :|

i'll wait 'til the day thanks

Like Offshore as well tbh ;\
Report Terry Venables April 4, 2010 5:32 PM BST
Agreed cannot see price contracting too much.

Kilcrea Castle also interesting
Report trev w April 4, 2010 5:32 PM BST
**g bored so had a couple of plays.
oodachee 25/1 e/w
always waining 66/1 e/w
Report turnip turns April 4, 2010 5:34 PM BST
trev,always waining :0..........still s h aggin bowen then ydc :^0
Report trev w April 4, 2010 5:43 PM BST
yep :^0 bowen :x aintree
Report turnip turns April 4, 2010 5:44 PM BST
:^0
Report Extreme Conviction April 4, 2010 5:49 PM BST
Looked a bit at this earlier came up with a whole bunch of stats

Aged 7-10
124 OR+
4+ Runs Season
12+ Chase runs
10+ Handicap Chase Runs
Won over 20+
Won a Handicap Chase
4+ Wins Total
Run in Class A Season
Placed in Class A
Won Class 2
Best Chase RPR this season
Run within 5 weeks
Top 4 lot ( unless ran in FulkWKM)
2/3 Seasons Chaser
Won Double Figure Field
Placed 16+ field
Under 11st


Top Scorers

16 - Panjo Bere, Palypso De Creek, The Sawyer
15 - Scotsirish, Notstringsattatched, Daldini, Always Waining
14- Oodachee, Offshore Account, Plasir D'estruval


Panjo - Not convinced race will suit him
Palypso - National Bound, otherwise of interest
The Sawyer - Fallen last 2 races here so not for me
Scotsirish - Too much weight in all likelehood
Nostringsattached - Not sure if he'll travell with enough for this test
Daldini - Outclassed, though will have a saver if the ground stays soft
Always Waining - V.interesting if the ground dries up a lot and headgear reapplied
Plasir D'estruval - Again interesting if ground stays soft, but wouldnt back it now
Offshore Account - Nice chance.

Oodachee - Came 2nd in this last year off a 6lb higher mark(pulled 13l clear with irish raptor) , off a featherweight again. Showed up well for a long way at cheltenham, hopefully have the cheekpieces back on here - his form with cheekpieces back on after a race or more w/o them reads 3(pertemps final)11P1. The better the ground the better his chance, and a dry week could see his odds crumble.

Also placed horses in this coming back don't have a bad record....

Last 9 years...

F60P4691P7F1.... 2 winners isn't bad and there are a lot of excuses for the failures....

1st 0 - Form was 6PPP70 since - obviously gone
1sr PU - Was pulled up in front at melling road, went lame
9 - Hakim, came back as a 13yo
2nd PU - Dunbrody millar, form since was 8PF0F, also he started the season with blinkers on so id guess he'd been working badly since he came back into training aswell.

Take out those F64617F1.... 2 winners and a place from 6 completitions isnt bad...Aswell as Oodachee jumping round here twice, he's never fallen in his life, so you'd say he's more likely than not to jump round....

Swann's aren't in too bad form, and it looks quite a weak race tbh. 11st+ have had 50 runners in the last 9 years, and only two have made the top 2. One was the winner Gwanako - who was a major stats blip in every sense, but in 2008 it was a strange race with a lot of carnage and not many finished. Below 11st there aren't too many potential massive improvers.

Offshore accounts very interesting as is Palypso De Creek if he runs....

Quick ground - Saver Always Waining
Soft ground - Saver Daldini.

Gl EC
Report trev w April 4, 2010 6:03 PM BST
looks like we're on the same lines ec ;)
Report Me2 April 4, 2010 6:17 PM BST
Sorry TV, only just noticed your earlier question.

It hasn't been decided yet whether Deutschland and/or Dooneys Gate go for the GN.
If something goes wrong early on in the Irish National, Equus Maximus or Pomme Tiepy might go as well.

Dare To Doubt and Not Converting will run in the two bumpers.

Dorset Square will probably go for a h'cap h'dle.

That's it.
Report Terry Venables April 4, 2010 6:18 PM BST
Cheers Me2

Dorset Sq would interest me
Report Terry Venables April 4, 2010 6:21 PM BST
saying that he wont get in :^0
Report trev w April 4, 2010 6:42 PM BST
just noticed oodachee is rated 127 for the topham....but 135 for the national...mmm h/caper let him in.......
Report Terry Venables April 4, 2010 6:44 PM BST
Run @ Cheltenham innit??
Report trev w April 4, 2010 6:45 PM BST
8lbs big though tel for his only chase run this yr no?
Report Terry Venables April 4, 2010 6:48 PM BST
agree looks v fair the handicapper

you not think this is a year too late for him though??
Report trev w April 4, 2010 6:53 PM BST
for this race tel ?

with the hurdles runs...looks to have been laid out for this or a crack at the biggun...
the 11 would'nt bother me too much.
Report Terry Venables April 4, 2010 6:58 PM BST
The ground would also be key to him likes good ground.

If hes still 25/1 Friday with better ground I might have a little e/w saver
Report Terry Venables April 5, 2010 3:14 PM BST
Monies for OA today
Report Horsesforcourses April 5, 2010 9:10 PM BST
Wee Robbie for me @ 25s.

Looks to be steadily coming back to form after injury in which case he remains v. well handicapped.

Likely going (g/s) and trip seem ideal and I think he'll love these fences. Not read any quotes so a bit of a gamble in backing him now as his last race will have been only 14 days ago but worth it at the prices imo.
Report Terry Venables April 6, 2010 7:32 PM BST
ttt for nib ;)
Report nibbledat April 6, 2010 7:42 PM BST
agree with trev re always waining no doubt its target all season and 12lbs lower than last seasons 4th, stable going well 66/1 is taken
gl
Report platinni April 6, 2010 7:44 PM BST
i backed him last year

given the f/c ill have to have a dabble at 66/1
Report nibbledat April 6, 2010 7:45 PM BST
stupid price imo
Report trev w April 6, 2010 7:52 PM BST
if he stays up....will have a shout for sho....it is big eh :0
Report El Apache April 7, 2010 8:39 AM BST
Allowed a massive 8 quid on AW with Sid James at 66/1.

Now into 40/1.
Report keeping silent April 7, 2010 8:47 AM BST
Gone for Offshore Account e/w double with Snowy Morning in the big one.gl all
Report one bet steve April 7, 2010 3:25 PM BST
Wee Robbie
Offshore Account
Oodachee
combo f/c and tricast.for me.
Report apieceofcake April 7, 2010 5:45 PM BST
Battlecry dots up imho
Report abbott April 7, 2010 8:56 PM BST
I think Offshore Acount is a cracking bet in this and would go as far as to say my bet of the meeting.
Report doogs April 8, 2010 12:45 PM BST
Ballabriggs not declared
Report trev w April 9, 2010 1:25 PM BST
always waining 66/1
odachee 25/1 both e/w antepost

adding offshore account.
Report platinni April 9, 2010 1:26 PM BST
also on aw small at a price but main bet at 40's

some charge if it comes in :0
Report TD_Gunner April 9, 2010 1:29 PM BST
I have gone for Offshore Account and Private Be at a big price.

gl.
Report Deep Impact April 9, 2010 1:44 PM BST
Magic Sky/Offshore Account/Always Waining against the field for me , Good Luck to all :)
Report nibbledat April 9, 2010 3:28 PM BST
qhilimar and always waining
gl
Report trev w April 9, 2010 3:33 PM BST
final bet diablo 36s
Report NBK April 9, 2010 3:39 PM BST
Gaora lane for a place for me GL
Report Me2 April 9, 2010 3:48 PM BST
Just checked. Apparently my bets are Offshore Account, Pak Jack and Zachorova:0.
Report platinni April 9, 2010 3:49 PM BST
gl all
Report Deep Impact April 9, 2010 4:02 PM BST
Easy
Report ben10 April 9, 2010 4:03 PM BST
Deep,nibb,trev and EC, well done :)
Report ben10 April 9, 2010 4:04 PM BST
and plat, sorry. Great call lads
Report TD_Gunner April 9, 2010 4:05 PM BST
well done all :)
Report Deep Impact April 9, 2010 4:05 PM BST
Trev gets the kudos, 66/1 :0
Report redbag April 9, 2010 4:05 PM BST
great call fellas :)
Report TD_Gunner April 9, 2010 4:06 PM BST
66/1, congrats trev.
Report azertyioup April 9, 2010 4:07 PM BST
Top bombing
Report rhinestone April 9, 2010 4:09 PM BST
good stuff lads B-)
Report Deep Impact April 9, 2010 4:11 PM BST
Nibber on at 66/1 as well, Kudos B-)
Report ben10 April 9, 2010 4:13 PM BST
Brutal race, how many died :(
Report trev w April 9, 2010 4:14 PM BST
cant believe on twice @ 66s

double running with special envoy :0
Report platinni April 9, 2010 4:15 PM BST
66's here too

and a massive punt with crookes at 40's

:D :D :D
Report Leonardo April 9, 2010 4:17 PM BST
seriously lads-well **g done!!
Report Meadow X1 April 9, 2010 4:18 PM BST
and trev and nibs! just read full post,well done
Report platinni April 9, 2010 4:19 PM BST
nibbledat [b]06 Apr 19:42
agree with trev re always waining no doubt its target all season and 12lbs lower than last seasons 4th, stable going well 66/1 is taken
gl



platinni 06 Apr 19:44
i backed him last year

given the f/c ill have to have a dabble at 66/1



nibbledat 06 Apr 19:45
stupid price imo



trev w 06 Apr 19:52
if he stays up....will have a shout for sho....it is big eh :0[/b]
Report Deep Impact April 9, 2010 4:21 PM BST
^^^^& people pay for tipsters :^0

The Sharp Minds are on here B-)
Report platinni April 9, 2010 4:22 PM BST
no , we should just charge B-)
Report redal2 April 9, 2010 4:22 PM BST
People, what a team you make. Respect to you all.
Report Deep Impact April 9, 2010 4:24 PM BST
It's great to see lads popping on & saying thanks (happened after Bluesea also)

Remember, we are all on the same side & THEY are the enemy
Report unclepuncle April 9, 2010 4:25 PM BST
Outstanding Guys :)
Report clouded leopard April 9, 2010 5:54 PM BST
top notch stuff there chaps

v well done
Report Beryl April 9, 2010 7:01 PM BST
Thank you Trev, just great, great tipping.

I can't believe it! What great tipsters on here, Irish Grand National and now this. Both at unbelieveable prices, and tipped up days in advance.

Wow!!!
Report Beryl April 9, 2010 7:04 PM BST
Should have included Plat and Nibbledat.

Thanks guys!!!
Report Beryl April 9, 2010 7:04 PM BST
Should have included Plat and Nibbledat.

Thanks guys!!!
Report trev w April 9, 2010 7:09 PM BST
glad you was on beryl :D
Report Steeplechasing April 9, 2010 7:11 PM BST
masterful tipping - hats off. well done
Report Night Sight April 9, 2010 7:16 PM BST
Well done lads,you're on fire this week.

Tomorrow for the icing on the cake?

The National winner should be a formality after this. ;-)
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