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By:
Terry Venables
When: 07 Apr 10 20:48
^

& me
By:
town moor
When: 07 Apr 10 20:52
Me voici in the 235 for me, though I'd guess they'll pull him out if it dries too much. Calgary bay, with some in running lays, the favourite has needed longer breaks between his runs, though if he's in decent form can't see anything getting near. Oiseua de nuit and lennon in the 420, both win bets, the former ran a cracker at donny the time befor last behind kalahari king and looks a big price here. Lennon also ran in that race- only his second since more than a year off and showed up well until between the last two, has run at cheltenham since but that isn't his track, this has been in the past. Sir harry ormesher in the last, would have won the void race at donny in december, came back in january to make up for that and is just about 6lb higher now. He did run in the coral cup and was off the bridle for a time before staying on passed beaten horses without being beaten up. Hopefully choc will be more inclined to give him a crack when he misbehaves tomorrow.
By:
Fastbearform
When: 07 Apr 10 21:44
In the 3.10 at Aintree, Carruthers looks a cracking bet at around 14/1. This horse is a small field bully and will hopefully run a big race.

:)
By:
Steeplechasing
When: 07 Apr 10 21:52
Agreed fastbear . . .

On form Imperial Commander will add the Totesport Bowl to his Cheltenham Gold Cup and on the face of it, at evens, he looks very good value to do so.

But the Mildmay course at Aintree is chalk to Cheltenham's cheese; nor (despite NTD's claims) is it that similar to Haydock other than being left-handed. The Mildmay is sharp and tight and big long-striding horses like IC (and Denman) are at a considerable disadvantage there.

IC is reported bouncing by his trainer but his owners have voiced reservations about the wisdom of running him here just 20 days after a monumental performance in the Gold Cup. There is also talk of him being best fresh though I think that remains to be proven. What is certain is that he will not be given a hard race - backers will probably know their fate after the first circuit.

In my opinion, the track will negate much of the 23lbs plus he, theoretically, has in hand.

Calgary Bay is another who, on build, will probably find it awkward round here. Arguably he did not have as tough a race in the Gold Cup as IC, but he has much to prove form-wise as well.

Nacarat is a horse I've always thought over-rated. He has never come close to replicating his RPRs in both Racing Post chases (170 in each) and much of his reputation, imo, was built on his victory in that race which very much went his way. On reflection, his defeat of Possol (rcvd 4lbs) at Kempton was far from great form.

What a Friend, on his Lexus run, and, arguably his Hennessy performance, will ideally want a longer trip, though I note his jockey said he will improve for better ground. Still, he might find himself outpaced and the run-in running out before he can gather in the leader.

That leaves Carruthers, a horse I'd have been happy to lay after what looked like he'd literally run himself into the ground in last year's RSA. I thought he might never come back from that in a race which has bottomed some promising novices.

But Carruthers has proved remarkably tough, bouncing back with a decent run at Wincanton before trouncing Big Fella Thanks at Newbury. He then failed to give 6lbs to a rejuvenated Taranis at Cheltenham prior to another valiant but fruitless run at the Festival.

Still, Carruthers is tough and talented and should be ideally suited by the Mildmay track (he's unbeaten left-handed on sharp courses). I believe he acts well on decent ground, despite his reputation as a heavy ground specialist.

Many races, are won, imo, by the horse who is ideally suited to the way the race is run rather than by the best horse in the race. For me, Carruthers is much more likely to get his ideal conditions tomorrow than any of his opponents, and at around 14s, he looks well worth an interest.
By:
Horsesforcourses
When: 07 Apr 10 22:20
[i]Uttoxeter Result

31 Oct 2008

« 2:00 » Wiser Than Most Beginners' Chase (Class 4) (4yo+) 3m Soft 18 fences

£5,529.25, £1,623.50, £811.75, £405.45

« 1 What A Friend 9/4 5 11-4 P F Nicholls
By:
Horsesforcourses
When: 07 Apr 10 22:22
Grade 1 even...
By:
Prospero
When: 07 Apr 10 22:27
I certainly wouldn't be saying that What A Friend is short of pace either.
By:
Steeplechasing
When: 07 Apr 10 22:30
I have no argument with that HFC - WAF certainly much less exposed and very probably a 'better' horse. But if the race pans out as I think it might, the 10 to 12 point difference in price is much too wide.
By:
Horsesforcourses
When: 07 Apr 10 22:33
Can see where you're coming from looking at the prices steeple and if Nacarat doesn't go after him it could make things interesting having his own way up front.

I'm also sceptical if the ground will be as good as the clerk has suggested.

I'm a WAF man but best of luck to you.
By:
proctor strikes
When: 07 Apr 10 22:59
After a nice day out on course tomorrow, and so far i will mostly be backing.

Bougler w/o fav
Notus De La Tour e/way (cracking eway bet imo)
Carruthers
Island Flyer
Pigeon Island (was thought to be better on good ground, so surprised he won so well when it turned soft at Chelts, has more to give on hurdle form)
The Nightengale (if only be default)
Silverhand- nap
By:
enjbenjy
When: 07 Apr 10 23:02
2.00 Big Bucks
2.35 Sanctuaire
3.10 Imperial Commander
3.45 Trust Fund
4.20 Doctor David
4.55 Somersby


The Punters will be striking back tomorrow!
By:
enjbenjy
When: 07 Apr 10 23:03
2.00 Big Bucks
2.35 Sanctuaire
3.10 Imperial Commander
3.45 Trust Fund
4.20 Doctor David
4.55 Somersby


The Punters will be striking back tomorrow!
By:
enjbenjy
When: 07 Apr 10 23:03
2.00 Big Bucks
2.35 Sanctuaire
3.10 Imperial Commander
3.45 Trust Fund
4.20 Doctor David
4.55 Somersby


The Punters will be striking back tomorrow!
By:
Far From Trouble
When: 07 Apr 10 23:04
you can say that again
By:
bestmate
When: 07 Apr 10 23:05
Ruby/Nicholls to have a cracking day tomorrow i reckon
By:
sintonian
When: 08 Apr 10 00:16
think Kayf Aramis could turn form with Souffleur if there is good in the going des.
By:
sintonian
When: 08 Apr 10 00:48
the last race looks really tough. Was looking at El Dancer but Geraghty has rejected that to ride Black Jack Blues.

Das, you got anymore stats re weight carried by winners ..
By:
nibbledat
When: 08 Apr 10 06:45
200 souffleur e/w @16
310 carruthers win @16, calgary bay win @20
345 van ness win @55 place @12
420 pigeon island win @7, safari journey win @10
455 hey big spender win @8
530 donelessthanme e/w @20, pascha bere e/w @40


gl all B-)
By:
uncle jam
When: 08 Apr 10 12:48
Really looking forward to today. Had a bit better luck yesterday so maybe coming into form at the right time.

2.00 1pt e/w Bouggler 16s
2.35 1pt win Super Kenny 9/2; 0.5pt e/w Notus de la Tour 8s
3.05 3pts win What a Friend 10/3
4.20 0.5pt win Pigeon Island 15/2
4.55 1pt win Mad Max 6/1
5.30 1pt e/w Silverhand 11s; 0.5pt e/w Pagan Starprincess 25s

good luck all :-)
By:
uncle jam
When: 08 Apr 10 12:52
Also followed nosey in on War Party at Taunton :-)
By:
onthenoseinfo
When: 08 Apr 10 13:02
finger crossed there jam, a leap of faith but he looks well treated in a poor race ;-)
By:
uncle jam
When: 08 Apr 10 14:09
Since when did Bouggler forget how to jump? :-(

Big run from Possol. Just shows that there isn't much in the way of depth in the staying hurdling division.
By:
onthenoseinfo
When: 08 Apr 10 14:26
unlucky Jam, he looks a shadow of former self really and big bucks so far ahead

me voici to go on this ground ok and should go close I hope
By:
town moor
When: 08 Apr 10 14:32
The beeb making a great attempt at beating C4 for artfy farty pics here.
By:
comeonkautostar
When: 08 Apr 10 14:42
Bit of a surprise there :-)
By:
custardcream64
When: 08 Apr 10 14:44
Jim Macs commentary there was appalling .
By:
comeonkautostar
When: 08 Apr 10 14:47
Yea, total disgrace

But he's been shocking for a while
By:
Deep Impact
When: 08 Apr 10 14:48
One of the worst-ever imo, wonder if 'Croc' over-indulged at the press-room lunch ?:|
By:
comeonkautostar
When: 08 Apr 10 14:52
1.01 ^
By:
Deep Impact
When: 08 Apr 10 14:53
:^0

Just said what he expected to happen instead of what was in front of his eyes (if he could see thru them, that is)
By:
abbott
When: 08 Apr 10 15:08
Afternoon Guys, been playing about so far today 1st big bet of the meeting Nacarat in the win market. GL
An come on Ballyfitz ;)
By:
comeonkautostar
When: 08 Apr 10 15:08
would love to see Nacarat win

:x
By:
onthenoseinfo
When: 08 Apr 10 15:12
chancing calgary but only small, gd luck
By:
uncle jam
When: 08 Apr 10 15:23
BOOOOMMMMMM!!! Hope IC is OK.
By:
onthenoseinfo
When: 08 Apr 10 15:24
wplayed jam ;-)
By:
town moor
When: 08 Apr 10 15:34
Looks like Bobby dazzler was right, hope he's ok.
By:
bestmate
When: 08 Apr 10 15:57
Gents
2011 GN winner Moncadou with AP on
By:
lordnoise
When: 08 Apr 10 16:00
Note for next year - Silver Adonis related to Papillon.
By:
onthenoseinfo
When: 08 Apr 10 16:16
pepsyrock best bet of the day for me e/w...gd lcuk
By:
onthenoseinfo
When: 08 Apr 10 16:26
some day for turn ups this!!
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