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direct route
29 Mar 10 20:50
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Must have big chance if weather forecast is correct. Race may cut up a bit. Not many will handle the ground. Looks progressive, so steep hike to 136 may not stop him. Will probably carry bottom weight, trainer has won the race before and meets most of the trends.

Worry is that he has not raced beyond 3m so possible non-stayer. Any breeding help would be welcome.

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By:
bertieboy
When: 29 Mar 10 21:17
i also fancy whinstone too, they deffo know how to win a national when the moneys down, i will be watching the weather f,cast closely
By:
stevo1
When: 29 Mar 10 23:41
Agree Direct on at 60s,backed lto not stopping over 3 miles on soft no weight if getting in could run big race.
By:
stevo1
When: 30 Mar 10 00:47
Sorry time before last i backed over 3 mile,last time was 2 mile and half miles. Backed on its own e/w 60s and 40s and in e/w doubles in 2000 Guineas with winner i hope?
By:
Roger The Butler
When: 30 Mar 10 10:30
direct route 29 Mar 20:50


Must have big chance if weather forecast is correct. Race may cut up a bit. Not many will handle the ground. Looks progressive, so steep hike to 136 may not stop him. Will probably carry bottom weight, trainer has won the race before and meets most of the trends.

Worry is that he has not raced beyond 3m so possible non-stayer. Any breeding help would be welcome.


Ok, you can come round to mine tonight if you are attractive.
By:
norn iron
When: 30 Mar 10 10:50
DR IF GETS IN WILL BE 12/1 MAX 16/1 ON DAY WILL HAVE SERIOUS CHANCE AN WILL STAY M8
By:
buddeliea
When: 30 Mar 10 12:18
Never raced beyond 3m,so doubtful stayer,and if soft a horse will need to stay well for sure.I will be looking for a proven stayer myself.
By:
town moor
When: 30 Mar 10 12:25
WHINSTONE BOY (IRE) G, 2001 DP = 4-1-4-5-4 (18) DI = 0.64 CD = -0.22
BOBBYJO (IRE) b. G, 1990 DP = 5-1-4-6-4 (20) DI = 0.67 CD = -0.15
BINDAREE (IRE) ch. G, 1994 DP = 1-1-3-4-1 (10) DI = 0.54 CD = -0.30
NUMBERSIXVALVERDE (IRE) b. G, 1996 DP = 2-0-0-6-2 (10) DI = 0.25 CD = -0.60
By:
norn iron
When: 30 Mar 10 12:27
BUDD WHINSTONE WILL STAY LONGER THAN THE MOTHER IN LAW :^0
By:
buddeliea
When: 30 Mar 10 12:33
You may be right Norn,but his form says it is not definite at all,why are you so sure mate??
By:
downallstar
When: 30 Mar 10 12:43
Have to agree with NORN, although WB doesn't fit the trends, he def does stay.
By:
norn iron
When: 30 Mar 10 13:05
BUDD , VERY FEW ON BREEDING GET OVER 4MILE BUT STATS SAY TOP 2 HALF MILERS BEST FOR NATIONAL JUST LETS SAY IF IT GETS IN STAYING WILL NOT BE AN ISSUE AN USUALLY VERY GOOD JUMPER BUT IF HE GETS IN WILL BE GAMBLED BIGTIME ON SOFT TIL HEAVY GOING
By:
duncan idaho
When: 30 Mar 10 13:14
^ an unconvincing explanation imo
By:
ninetieth minute
When: 30 Mar 10 13:27
WHINSTONE BOY (IRE) G, 2001 DP = 4-1-4-5-4 (18) DI = 0.64 CD = -0.22
BOBBYJO (IRE) b. G, 1990 DP = 5-1-4-6-4 (20) DI = 0.67 CD = -0.15
BINDAREE (IRE) ch. G, 1994 DP = 1-1-3-4-1 (10) DI = 0.54 CD = -0.30
NUMBERSIXVALVERDE (IRE) b. G, 1996 DP = 2-0-0-6-2 (10) DI = 0.25 CD = -0.60

All got Busted in the pedigree as did Seagram, Rough Quest & Silver Birch (and 2nds Romany King, What's Up Boys & Supreme Glory)
By:
ninetieth minute
When: 30 Mar 10 13:36
Apologies Bindaree was a Roselier (like Royal Athlete & Suny Bay)
By:
norn iron
When: 30 Mar 10 13:40
DUNCAN ILL BET U CANT EXPLAIN WHY IT WONT STAY ?
By:
bestmate
When: 30 Mar 10 14:26
Iron please don't use Caps Lock.causes me eye strain
By:
norn iron
When: 30 Mar 10 14:28
BEST M8 sorry BUT AS MOST NO I NEED caps LOCK 2 BRAIN OPS
By:
norn iron
When: 30 Mar 10 14:28
BEST M8 sorry BUT AS MOST NO I NEED caps LOCK 2 BRAIN OPS
By:
norn iron
When: 30 Mar 10 14:28
HENCE 2POSTS :^0
By:
bestmate
When: 30 Mar 10 14:33
GREAT!
By:
town moor
When: 30 Mar 10 14:57
Ninetieth, I just picked those at random for reference to try to help those who haven't yet read much around dosage. I haven't backed whinstone boy as I haven't yet had a look at the likelihood of him getting in, but he certainly meets the dosage trends. Norn the 2 1/2 miler argument is a common one, but the pedigree's of almost all winners are laden with stamina even though they may have been running at shorter distances- this is a handicap after all.
By:
grade 1
When: 30 Mar 10 16:50
Tendrleen Thyestes Handicap Chase (grade A)
€90000 added, 5yo plus, 3m, €58600 penalty, 17 ran
Going: Heavy
Race Report »
Winning Time Winning Time: 6m 45.1s
Pos. Draw Dist. Horse Wt Jockey Trainer Age SP
1 Whinstone Boy (IRE) 9-11 S W Flanagan J J Mangan 9 5/1
made virtually all, joined and ridden entering straight, strongly pressed from 3 out, led from last, kept on well run-in opened 7/1 touched 7/1
By:
fact find
When: 30 Mar 10 17:17
Then carried 11-12 n.t.o.
By:
bertieboy
When: 30 Mar 10 18:29
ok whinstone backers, we need 14 to come out for a run, what will come out u reckon....... i think maybe madison du berlais, air force one, conna castle, pablo du charmil, deutchland, HELP?
By:
rhinestone
When: 30 Mar 10 18:32
Can't see Dooney's Gate running.
By:
bertieboy
When: 30 Mar 10 18:45
u think lennon will run rhinestone? its a 2miler surely
By:
Redford_Blade
When: 30 Mar 10 19:00
Just got this horse on the following website so MUST come close...

www.grand-national-guide.co.uk/myhorse.php
By:
slaphappydaddy
When: 30 Mar 10 20:27
Save me reading up on terms please.... If I back this horse & he does not get in, is it money back (ballotted out ?)
By:
Charlton2005
When: 30 Mar 10 20:30
yes, money back if balloted out
By:
punkha1
When: 30 Mar 10 21:27
bet 365 non runner no bet and 33/1,seems fair to me as wont be that price on the day if he lines up.
By:
Reefer 2001
When: 30 Mar 10 22:10
Come on then who's dropping out to let him in?

Air Force One
?
?
By:
cantspell
When: 30 Mar 10 22:11
hello bud has no bckers
By:
buddeliea
When: 31 Mar 10 07:41
Still not convinced he stays,and in likely soft maybe Heavy,where they need to stay every inch, i will go with a proven one,good luck though.

Dream Alliance will like it soft,better class and proven stayer-thats more like it for me.
By:
direct route
When: 31 Mar 10 11:48
if balloted out on Betfair is it money back?
By:
stevo1
When: 31 Mar 10 11:52
Yes
By:
direct route
When: 31 Mar 10 11:58
thanks
By:
bertieboy
When: 31 Mar 10 18:13
the last of the 40,s gone 2day on whinestone! id like to think the moneys coming for it but its probably all my cash!
By:
Charlton2005
When: 31 Mar 10 21:43
A stone wrong at the weights with BFT. No chance.
By:
Charlton2005
When: 31 Mar 10 21:44
That's 100 lengths over 4 miles btw

:)
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