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Must have big chance if weather forecast is correct. Race may cut up a bit. Not many will handle the ground. Looks progressive, so steep hike to 136 may not stop him. Will probably carry bottom weight, trainer has won the race before and meets most of the trends.
Worry is that he has not raced beyond 3m so possible non-stayer. Any breeding help would be welcome.
Worry is that he has not raced beyond 3m so possible non-stayer. Any breeding help would be welcome.
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i also fancy whinstone too, they deffo know how to win a national when the moneys down, i will be watching the weather f,cast closely
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Agree Direct on at 60s,backed lto not stopping over 3 miles on soft no weight if getting in could run big race.
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Sorry time before last i backed over 3 mile,last time was 2 mile and half miles. Backed on its own e/w 60s and 40s and in e/w doubles in 2000 Guineas with winner i hope?
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direct route 29 Mar 20:50
Must have big chance if weather forecast is correct. Race may cut up a bit. Not many will handle the ground. Looks progressive, so steep hike to 136 may not stop him. Will probably carry bottom weight, trainer has won the race before and meets most of the trends. Worry is that he has not raced beyond 3m so possible non-stayer. Any breeding help would be welcome. Ok, you can come round to mine tonight if you are attractive. |
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DR IF GETS IN WILL BE 12/1 MAX 16/1 ON DAY WILL HAVE SERIOUS CHANCE AN WILL STAY M8
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Never raced beyond 3m,so doubtful stayer,and if soft a horse will need to stay well for sure.I will be looking for a proven stayer myself.
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WHINSTONE BOY (IRE) G, 2001 DP = 4-1-4-5-4 (18) DI = 0.64 CD = -0.22
BOBBYJO (IRE) b. G, 1990 DP = 5-1-4-6-4 (20) DI = 0.67 CD = -0.15 BINDAREE (IRE) ch. G, 1994 DP = 1-1-3-4-1 (10) DI = 0.54 CD = -0.30 NUMBERSIXVALVERDE (IRE) b. G, 1996 DP = 2-0-0-6-2 (10) DI = 0.25 CD = -0.60 |
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BUDD WHINSTONE WILL STAY LONGER THAN THE MOTHER IN LAW :^0
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You may be right Norn,but his form says it is not definite at all,why are you so sure mate??
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Have to agree with NORN, although WB doesn't fit the trends, he def does stay.
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BUDD , VERY FEW ON BREEDING GET OVER 4MILE BUT STATS SAY TOP 2 HALF MILERS BEST FOR NATIONAL JUST LETS SAY IF IT GETS IN STAYING WILL NOT BE AN ISSUE AN USUALLY VERY GOOD JUMPER BUT IF HE GETS IN WILL BE GAMBLED BIGTIME ON SOFT TIL HEAVY GOING
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^ an unconvincing explanation imo
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WHINSTONE BOY (IRE) G, 2001 DP = 4-1-4-5-4 (18) DI = 0.64 CD = -0.22
BOBBYJO (IRE) b. G, 1990 DP = 5-1-4-6-4 (20) DI = 0.67 CD = -0.15 BINDAREE (IRE) ch. G, 1994 DP = 1-1-3-4-1 (10) DI = 0.54 CD = -0.30 NUMBERSIXVALVERDE (IRE) b. G, 1996 DP = 2-0-0-6-2 (10) DI = 0.25 CD = -0.60 All got Busted in the pedigree as did Seagram, Rough Quest & Silver Birch (and 2nds Romany King, What's Up Boys & Supreme Glory) |
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Apologies Bindaree was a Roselier (like Royal Athlete & Suny Bay)
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DUNCAN ILL BET U CANT EXPLAIN WHY IT WONT STAY ?
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Iron please don't use Caps Lock.causes me eye strain
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BEST M8 sorry BUT AS MOST NO I NEED caps LOCK 2 BRAIN OPS
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BEST M8 sorry BUT AS MOST NO I NEED caps LOCK 2 BRAIN OPS
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HENCE 2POSTS :^0
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GREAT!
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Ninetieth, I just picked those at random for reference to try to help those who haven't yet read much around dosage. I haven't backed whinstone boy as I haven't yet had a look at the likelihood of him getting in, but he certainly meets the dosage trends. Norn the 2 1/2 miler argument is a common one, but the pedigree's of almost all winners are laden with stamina even though they may have been running at shorter distances- this is a handicap after all.
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Tendrleen Thyestes Handicap Chase (grade A)
90000 added, 5yo plus, 3m, 58600 penalty, 17 ran Going: Heavy Race Report » Winning Time Winning Time: 6m 45.1s Pos. Draw Dist. Horse Wt Jockey Trainer Age SP 1 Whinstone Boy (IRE) 9-11 S W Flanagan J J Mangan 9 5/1 made virtually all, joined and ridden entering straight, strongly pressed from 3 out, led from last, kept on well run-in opened 7/1 touched 7/1 |
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Then carried 11-12 n.t.o.
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ok whinstone backers, we need 14 to come out for a run, what will come out u reckon....... i think maybe madison du berlais, air force one, conna castle, pablo du charmil, deutchland, HELP?
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Can't see Dooney's Gate running.
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u think lennon will run rhinestone? its a 2miler surely
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Just got this horse on the following website so MUST come close...
www.grand-national-guide.co.uk/myhorse.php |
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Save me reading up on terms please.... If I back this horse & he does not get in, is it money back (ballotted out ?)
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yes, money back if balloted out
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bet 365 non runner no bet and 33/1,seems fair to me as wont be that price on the day if he lines up.
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Come on then who's dropping out to let him in?
Air Force One ? ? |
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hello bud has no bckers
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Still not convinced he stays,and in likely soft maybe Heavy,where they need to stay every inch, i will go with a proven one,good luck though.
Dream Alliance will like it soft,better class and proven stayer-thats more like it for me. |
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if balloted out on Betfair is it money back?
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Yes
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thanks
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the last of the 40,s gone 2day on whinestone! id like to think the moneys coming for it but its probably all my cash!
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A stone wrong at the weights with BFT. No chance.
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That's 100 lengths over 4 miles btw
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