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Anyone know where I can find this information? I know it's out there, racing journo's have it.

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By:
Me2
When: 06 Apr 10 08:36
This question was asked on the forum that I'm a member of last year. Seems they get it from Weatherbys? Timeform get it from Weatherbys as well? Us plebs can't access it? There doesn't seem to be an obligation to report this, so sometimes the first time people find out is when the horse is in the parade ring, or I think on one occasion a few months ago, in the winner's enclosure.
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Me2
When: 06 Apr 10 08:50
Found the RP article.

Geldings who won as 'entires' spark probe
By Ed Watson 6:36PM 9 DEC 2009

THE BHA is to investigate why racegoers and punters were left unaware Danum Dancer had been gelded before he won at Southwell on Tuesday before deciding if amendment is needed to the procedure for trainers informing them of the operation.

The Neville Bycroft-trained five-year-old's victory was the second high-profile example in a week of a horse winning who had undergone a gelding operation - often cited as a means of improving performance - while still officially registered as a colt or entire.

Paul Struthers, the BHA's media relations manager, said due consideration would be given to both Danum Dancer's case and that of the Linda Jewell-trained R Woody, a 100-1 winner at Southwell on December 5 on his first run since a gelding operation, but still listed as a colt at the time.

Struthers said: "Danum Dancer has been running as entire when we know now that he isn't one. Mr Bycroft said he informed us of the change by completing the necessary paperwork at the time.

"That is something we will look into to establish if there has been oversight on our part. Once we know, we can then consider whether any amendment to the current procedure is necessary."
By:
SOULDANCER
When: 06 Apr 10 09:59
Cheers Me2,
Total disgrace that we can't get this information. Sir Louis won yesterday and Quasi Congaree 20-1 won the week before, both after being gelded. I only knew because either Spotlight or Timeform mentioned it.
By:
notenough
When: 06 Apr 10 10:05
If you can't read form thats your fault.
By:
SOULDANCER
When: 06 Apr 10 10:32
notenough,
yes well, I find it difficult to remember every horse that's an entire so I'll know if it's recently been gelded. Obviously it's no problem for a genius like you.
By:
Me2
When: 06 Apr 10 10:32
All you'll get is that the horse is a gelding currently. When you look at a previous race, there is no mention of whether the horse is a colt or a gelding, so it has nothing to do with reading the form.
By:
Equimine.co.uk
When: 06 Apr 10 10:47
FYI,

Gelded first time out today are Avongate (FLass 4.35) and Hindu Kush (FLass 4.05)
By:
sandysboy
When: 06 Apr 10 12:02
Know for deffo was in Racing Post Spotlight about Sir Louis
By:
Rowley Mile
When: 06 Apr 10 12:32
R woody had one after his run in september 09 and bolted up at 100-1 in december 09, were connections even on though ? The public were still giving out stink about not having the info.
By:
Rowley Mile
When: 06 Apr 10 12:37
sorry just noticed it already mentioned.
By:
duncan idaho
When: 06 Apr 10 15:22
'If you can't read form thats your fault.'



I see we have another forum knowall/d ick in our midst
By:
lordnoise
When: 06 Apr 10 18:07
Should have
By:
ben10
When: 06 Apr 10 18:10
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