GRAND NATIONAL GROUND WILL BE GOOD TO SOFT AT WORSE

Yep, British weather forecasts are well known for their reliability

Depends which forecast you look at also. The forecast I looked at suggested a stack of rain on Monday with a little bit on the Tuesday and Thursday.

Same as for Cheltenham - whatever happens they will water to make sure the ground is on the soft side of good for horse welfare reasons.

dry all next week

lordnoise thats nonsense

dead ground at aintree worse than soft. rain til early next week then dry=dead ground.

There's plenty of rain forecast between now and the middle of next week. I would hazard a guess at soft/ soft heavy/ heavy. Would be great if we had genuine heavy ground for a change. Nice soft landings for all the horses and hopefully no fatalities. :)

From last year abbott :

The going on the Grand National course remains good, good to soft in places after another overcast day. Between three and six millimetres of water were put on the course today (30 March 2009).

The Mildmay and Hurdles courses have good going. These two courses were watered yesterday and more water will be applied selectively tomorrow.

Andrew Tulloch, the Aintree clerk of the course, will assess the situation tomorrow evening to see if more watering is necessary.

!!!!!

Won't need the pipes this year! Well.... I hope not, anyway.

I repeat the going will be good to soft by Saturday if not good (good to soft in places).

There is no reain forecasted from Monday.

you dont know!

The forecast I have seen predicts heavy rain on Monday followed by light rain Tuesday and Wednesday, then dry from Thursday onwards.

Soft at best imo.

Long-range (any further than the next 2-3 days) weather forecasts are pretty much total guesswork.

The fact is no-one knows what the weather will be like from Monday onwards & certainly not what it'll be like Thursday onwards. Could pour down on those days & be a bog. Could be sunny & windy & everyone will be talking about how fast Aintree dries.

My guess is that it'll rain next week & be soft or worse but it's just a guess like everyone else.

Fastbearform

Lqast time we had a heavy ground National only 2 horses got round without mishap. H

How is that "great" from a horse welfare perspective or any other ?

Good to soft by saturday without doubt

And they cant remount this year, someone said on the aintree forum that the nanny were offering 100-1 three finishers or less although i cant see this anywhere

Blu Sq.. Official Going. Grand National.
6-4 Good To Soft
2-1 Soft
4-1 Heavy
9-2 Good

Interesting, although you have to take the"Political side of what he will calk it"

Turftrax give 3.8 as a reading for the course, which is very soft

true zil.....prefer to see how the topham rides..than any official word...

At odds with all those talking heavy ground though, and there's enough of them.

Soul, its probably because unless it resembles the Somme he will call it soft............

Why won't people listen to me. Liverpool is getting no rain from Monday onwards

zilzal, I can't find any evidence to support that. When it was heavy it was Officially called heavy. Also wouldn't argue with any Official call on the ground at Aintree other years. If it was Cheltenham, I'd agree.

The fact that its heavy at Haydock 20 miles West of Aintree gives an indication of what were dealing with.

Soul, things have changed a lot since 2001

If you look at Turftrax, his current reading of 4.9 on the mildmay is given as soft(g/s in places) Now look at the History and you will see just two ticks below at 4.7 a description of soft9Heavy in places)

the current reading for the National course is the lowest on record there, and i cant see it being anything other than heavy at todays reading

zilzal, so are you saying the real going will be heavy on the day and Blu Sq are off with their prices. Cos 2-1 soft 4-1 heavy must look nice in that case.

Its now 4/5 Good to Soft 9/4 soft 5/1 Good and 7/1 Heavy


Doesnt add up with those readings

BTW, if it does rain heavily next week you wont get 4/5 for under 13 finishers as the current price...........

who cares what the ground is like

Those odds are getting too interesting now and are at odds with most on here. I think he'll call the ground as it is. No reason not to. Doesn't have to protect himself, it's not as if he'll be watering.

That'll be why you have no money I would think.

Check out the max stakes allowed before getting too excited Souldancer!

Flip Flop, 4/5 soft now

undertaker, not interested on betting on going, just fed up with soft, heavy ground talk.

They probably took a score on soft at 9/4 and a fiver on Heavy at 7/1

Aintree clerk of the course Andrew Tulloch expects conditions to improve ahead of the three-day fixture, which commences on Thursday.

He said: "The ground should dry out a bit further during the week.

"The Grand National course is basically soft, heavy by the Canal Turn and Valentine's - it's always a bit easier down there.

"The majority of the rest of the course is lovely jumping ground (soft, good to soft in places).

"I would have thought we would be around good to soft by Saturday."

nice dry day on merseyside past couple of days been good, sun out today and warm wind, still very soft in the local park

whatever drying out was done earlier today, was ruined by a heavy shower rain and hail about 1hr ago. The clerk may call its good to soft, but it will be a bog

cheers proc..keep us posted

how are you ? not seen much of you of late..

kept away really from forum as much as poss to be honest, was posting too much and getting too involved, and losing sight of the target! much more profitable. Check in now and again for any 'news' items i may have missed.

local footy games this weekend abandoned due to waterlogged pitches, that says it all.

He hasnt given a stick reading since Weds!!, mmm my experience with monitoring clerks might suggest it resembles Agincourt

trust me this will be bog heavy ground, we havnt had rain like this consitently before a national since Red Maurader, it very much reminds of that type of weather. g'teed to need bog larks, it will be at the very best tacky, after a couple of days racing.

proctor. Although haydock was officially heavy today i have it on good authority it was riding soft.

I see the 4cast has changed again. More heavy rain on wednesday. Load up on the horses wearing wellies :^0

I repeat the ground will be no worse than good to softy. How many flaming times do i have to tell you?!

It's been sunny last two days and windy too.

Nice dryish forecast now.

http://uk.weather.com/weather/10day-Liverpool-UKXX0083

Interesting that any reference to the going stick has disappeared from information given by Aintree. Good to Soft my rsole

rained locallly from about 5am to 7am this morning, now strong winds interspersed. Horibble day.

Proctor get out in the yard and start rain dancing please!