FRANKEL..is this the worst tactics ever used on a top class horse??

Possibly,but maybe the horse aint as good as they thought?

Queally seems to lack a clock in his head/confidence & b@lls to hang on to the best horse hes ever likely to sit on.
The horse settled beautifully , i can understand he wanted to move up the rail when the oppourtunity arose but to then ask Frankel to quicken to reel his pacemaker in so suddenly seemed bizzare.
Piggott & Cauthen the 2 best ever jocks @ Warren Place would have been mortified watching that.

It's right up there  with Jimmy Fortune's insistance that Raven's Pass needed holding up regardless of what fractions ( the crawl of that year's  Sussex Stakes is a case in point ) were being set.

If Barcelona put Messi in goal and beat my local pub team 3-2, does that make it a good tactic?

queally had to be under instructions to do wat he did..he got away with it this time but i would be surprised if they use these tactics again esp over further.....

*great post i meant to say about barca

To answer the question, yes. He ran all the way to the line over a mile at Ascot last year, but they've arguably made him look a doubtful stayer the last two times. Whatever about the Guineas, Cecil clearly wasn't happy with today's ride judging by post-race interview on ATR.

I mean where you have a useless horse which has no hope if the race is run in a normal way, so the jockey tries to to go for broke and hope the others are caught out and don't respond.

cecil said on timeform radio it was more like plan z...so tom didnt ride horse to instructions....that aint good for tom...he could b dropped by the grimster and co...in fact i would go so far as to say he will now lose the ride....i hope not but these connections show no mercy..i sense a greville starkey moment coming on::000

unleashing on the bend would have had us all salivating tonight

point is if he does that against serious milers he wont win

I think some on here are being a bit OTT on their assessment of the race.

Frankel won in a time only 1 second outside the course record.

Yes tactics weren't the best but as for suggesting Queally should lose the ride even with a 100% record on the horse is crazy.

With hindsight, the horse wasn't ridden to best advantage. He's far superior to the likes of Zoffany, Neebras etc. But it's not hard to imagine Queally's thinking after a couple of furlongs yesterday: "Frankel raced hard from the outset at Newmarket and won by a street but he's settled and raced within himself so far today so if I quicken it up now he should be able to maintain a strong gallop all the way to the line." He almost certainly overdid it in terms of the speed he asked Frankel to go at thereafter. But how many of the people criticising Queally now actually thought as he went past Rerouted yesterday that Frankel was going to win impressively? If you were sitting there thinking that this was ridiculous and he'd gone far too soon then you're entitled to have a go. If you thought he was going to dot up then you're aftertiming.

It was a very poor ride. If the race had been over 100 yds more Zoffany would have gone past him. Frankel
is a much better horse than Frankel and was only given a chance by poor race riding. Queally seemed to panic
for some reason . The horse has a dramatic turn of foot why use it 3f out?. He ended up giving the horse
a hard race when if he'd  held on to him he'd have won 2 lengths still on the bridle. These hard races
Queally keeps giving Frankel could catch up with the horse. Canford Cliffs would have Beat Frankel easily
today assuming frankel was ridden the same way, yet I think Frankel is a better horse. It's been mentioned
before that Queally is a big problem for Frankel backers and the race bore this out. If lester was on him
he'd be virtually unbeatable with Queally on him ,as seen yesterday, he is very beatable.

tinkler Lester is not on him and never will be so its a pointless case that you put, we see all the top jockeys make mistakes Hughes, Moore Dettori and Spencer make big clangers. In a race you have very little time to think Queally made the decision to go and he won. Imagine if he sat and waited and got boxed in that would be worse. Give Queally a break ffs.

Steamship
My comments are from a betting perspective. From a non betting point of view i hope Queally keeps the ride
and gives Frankel dream rides in the future. His old mentor Barney Curley could help him out. No one knows
how to operate more under pressure than Barney.

The only time i've seen tactics like those before, going flat out from halfway and hoping to not drop dead before the end, is where a jockey at Fontwell or somewhere like that tries to 'pinch' a seller on a 33/1 shot

Couldn't agree more, employing these tactics on a long shot is a worthwhile risk to take, because "stealing" the race is the only hope you have.

Using these tactics on a long odds on favourite is just ridiculous. The jockey is lucky Frankel is still good enough to win despite him. Had he lost a lynching was in order.

I don't see SHC jocking him off.. do you? 

TQ's Guinneas ride on Jacqueline's Quest last year was a shocker... watch out for her today with Murtagh up, btw...

Does the Owner have a record of jocking off or will the racing manager demand it? 

Someone ring up Kinane and tell him to get in the shower and Sauna... it needs someone of his craftiness to teach the horse a little more and to utilise the unbelievable talent and speed there in new/different ways... MK on Seathestars was the epitome of race-riding genius... horse never looked like getting beaten as a 3-yr old and the way he won the Arc weaving through the pack in the last furlong still gets me screaming at the tv every time I watch it!

Quelly did give him a bad ride the same as last time out he went too early, I would love to see him bolt around 2 and a half furlongs out, he would take it out of every horse atm. Sir Henry clearly doesn't want him ridden like that so can't see past a new jockey next time out for Frankel and a big win maybe by 8 - 10 lengths

Need Stevie Cauthen to stop quaffing the champagne, or ven the Long Fella, they knew how to ride fractions