Sevlle v Carlton House Derby?

I concur.

seville won't turn up

recital will beat carlton house though

Carlton House will fly past Recital down the straight.

These are two totally different horses, class wise.

Carlton House is different gear, a proper race horse where Recital has quirks about him plus he doesn't have the gears to go with Carlton.

No worries about this horse. Seville will go to the Derby, he ran well in the Dante without winning.

Carlton House wont make the frame in a true run race.OBrien 1,2 followed by Native Khan.

teflontom - you are joking right???

Native Khan will not stay 1m 4f in a horse box. The horse ain't good enough.

Native Khan beat Yaseer by 2 lengths and a neck, while Carlton House has beaten Yaseer by 9 lengths in his maiden and by over 10 lengths in the Dante when he's not wound up.

You are crazy! You are also a muppet like most others on here.

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i cant see present fav winning off a true run pace.
seville to stay all day
i see it between him and godolphin horse [:x]

Carlton House - won't stay
Sire : out and out miler !
Dam  : Im2f horse at best , tried 1m4f once (at Epsom in Coronation Cup) , was 9th out of 11.

So Carlton House could be very good over 1m2F ... to win the Epsom Derby you have to stay a good 1m4F , it is not a flat 1m4f !! Uphill for the first 4f really test your stamina.

Carlton House actually got tapped for toe in the Dante. He was nudged to get going and only then ran on well. He rides like a horse who will stay 12f. Bustino on his dams side remember.

so u think he'll stay easy then?

looked to me in the dante that seville was weakening and carlton was pulling away

poor lot IMO Ocean war for me

Seville All day long

aiden o,brien said he was very happy with sevilles run in the dante indicating plenty of improvement to come + step up to 12 f will suit ,same for carlton improvement wise but seville  over 3 times the price and smooth run in run up to derby .seville of the 2 for me .