Roderic o Connor.

Doesn't even look big enough to get on a roller coaster

Donkey derby maybe after that performance on Saturday. Desperate effort.

wont run! I will promise you that right now.

Another example - albeit a more extreme one - of what happens when you try to run an obvious stayer in the Guineas. They learned nothing from SNA last year.

Sorry, did'nt realise a horse had to be a certain height to run in the derby. Looks like connections of Mad Max missed a trick!

Howellsy;

Personally, I look towards the dam for stamina. how can you be sure he'll stay, when the dam only raced at upto a mile?

quite similar breeding to frankel has it not?

Think this horse might win the Dante on Thursday and then head off to Chantilly..

Can't be sure, twonky, but his 2yo career suggested as much. Maybe he just hasn't trained on anyway.

GENIUS BEAST and Roderic O'Connor could both miss Thursday's key Derby warm-up at York, the Totesport Dante Stakes, to wait for other targets.

Connections of Genius Beast, the Bet365Classic Trial winner, are considering the 1m3f Prix Hocquart on the undercard of Longchamp's Guineas meeting on Sunday as an alternative.

Godolphin racing manager Simon Crisford said: "Genius Beast is in the Dante and will also be left in the Prix Hocquart at the weekend.

"It's quite likely he will go to France, but we'll leave all options open until we make a final decision on Tuesday."

Following Recital's success in the Derrinstown Stud Derby Trial Stakes, trainer Aidan O'Brien confirmed Seville a runner at York this week, but described Roderic O'Connor as "unlikely" to line up inthe Dante.

He said: "Roderic O'Connor will probably wait for either the Abu Dhabi Irish 2,000 Guineas or the Investec Derby."

The pair's absence is likely to lead to a further contraction in the odds of the three leading contenders, Carlton House, World Domination and Seville.

got a few quid matched at 95, just waiting for the rest to be. Can see O'Brien going in mob-handed. Carlton house's price is laughable, not been inpressed with Recital (how many derby winners won over 10f at 2?), Seville looks more of a future cup horse, Native Khan is group3 at best, and the rest just make up the numbers.

Could turn out to be a very disappointing derby.

Anybody got a clue where he goes next?
Entered in the Irish 2000, yet is priced as low as 16s for the derby.

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