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somebody posted some data regarding the bad record of the above.

can anybody remember who it was and which forum it was posted in?


just for the (Apr 4) Roderic O'Connor fans on here

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By:
Michrich
When: 05 Apr 11 21:48
Sea The Stars was born on the 6th April.
By:
db1974
When: 06 Apr 11 13:13
Happy Birthday to Sea The Stars then!
By:
jair1970
When: 07 Apr 11 22:50
I've just updated it.
Thanks for reminding me!

Looks like it should hit the winner this year Plain
By:
David Fishwick Minibus Sales
When: 07 Apr 11 23:14
are you gonna post it (the original one)?
By:
fuzzyone
When: 08 Apr 11 09:39
It is on the antepost forum.
By:
David Fishwick Minibus Sales
When: 08 Apr 11 12:44
ta fuzzy.

http://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/23588514/typical-2000-guineas-winner---early-or-late-foal

The_LUFCwaffe     18 Mar 07 15:02 
Can we discount a number of horses for the 2000 Guineas based on their actual date of birth?...i.e profile by date of birth


[updated to include last 4 winners]
2010 Makfi - 4 Mar 2007
2009 Sea The Stars - 6 Apr 2006
2008 Henrythenavigator - 28 Feb 2005
2007 Cockney Rebel - 16 Mar 2004
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2006 George Washington - 1 Mar 2003
2005 Footstepsinthesand - 15 Feb 2002
2004 Haafhd - 18 Feb 2001
2003 Refuse to Bend - 17 Mar 2000
2002 Rock of Gibraltar - 8 Mar 1999
2001 Golan - 24 Feb 1998
2000 King's Best - 24 Jan 1997
1999 Island Sands - 27 Jan 1996
1998 King of Kings - 27 Feb 1995
1997 Entrepreneur - 7 Mar 1994
By:
UTI
When: 08 Apr 11 13:00
??
By:
Arkle's Shadow
When: 09 Apr 11 21:08
Stats like this are there to be broken.
By:
jair1970
When: 09 Apr 11 22:47
Er... yeah!

It kinda massively fell down when Sea the Stars won!

However, the sheer talent /class of him lead to his entire career being a 'stats buster' so can be excused somewhat.

A similar thing has happened to my Oaks stats with Snow Fairy, who just didn't fit the criteria at all.  It seems her trainer was caught by surprise too judging by her 2yo campaign.  Like Sea the Stars, she's subsequently been shown to be freakishly good.
By:
Keith Lard
When: 11 Apr 11 16:49
I love the Confirmation Bias at play here. Sea The Stars broke the trend - therefore, he must've been a rogue result and the trend is watertight.
By:
jair1970
When: 11 Apr 11 23:46
Jeez Keith, it's not the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow but it's an interesting diversion nonetheless!
Nearly the whole field qualifies this year!

And are you suggesting that Sea the Stars wasn't a once-in-a-generation freak?
By:
grendel
When: 17 Apr 11 14:45
Dancing Brave was a May foal
By:
pox doctors clerk
When: 21 Apr 11 21:24
dancing brave , now your talking
By:
jair1970
When: 21 Apr 11 23:52
Point holds:  Dancing Brave once in a generation freak. Happy
By:
dirt
When: 22 Apr 11 13:21
The 'trend' as it were was also bucked two years in succession in 1992 and 1993 by Rodrigo De Triano and Zafonic, both exceptional horses in their own right.
I agree with the poster above about this being a diversion or at least another less significant angle than say perhaps your sire being a Group 1 winner.  I think that one is 23/23, although I'm not 100% sure.
By:
David Fishwick Minibus Sales
When: 22 Apr 11 15:24
dont forget don't forget me
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