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privatehire
29 Nov 20 11:09
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Evens tenpin. Evens.
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Report dr . atkins November 29, 2020 11:34 AM GMT
well let's see if the person who was on rpgtv the sponsor of the oaks said if tenpin was evens he have 10 grand
Report FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK November 29, 2020 11:43 AM GMT
Good luck to top and bottom backers
I’ve played bottom myself
Report sparrow November 29, 2020 1:11 PM GMT
dr . atkins 29 Nov 20 12:34 
well let's see if the person who was on rpgtv the sponsor of the oaks said if tenpin was evens he have 10 grand





But will the bet be laid?
Report wedge1 November 29, 2020 1:13 PM GMT
sparrow it will on here
Report sparrow November 29, 2020 1:19 PM GMT
We shall see with interest, wedge.
Report privatehire November 29, 2020 2:50 PM GMT
11/10 tenpin 11/10. I laid evns. Now 11/10. 11/10 tenpin.
Report privatehire November 29, 2020 4:28 PM GMT
Theres over 4k matched at evns or better. Still small bit 11/10.
Report wedge1 November 29, 2020 4:47 PM GMT
cometh the hour cometh the profit
Report sparrow November 29, 2020 4:51 PM GMT
I shall take it on one way or another.
Report the old nanny ;-) November 29, 2020 4:57 PM GMT
Shyte Card  in supoort and with Swindon gone only really the final to look forward to
Report Deptford November 29, 2020 5:06 PM GMT
Think I will watch Scarface.
Report privatehire November 29, 2020 6:38 PM GMT
2.32 to £400 2.4 to £400 just bin laid.
Report Takethepaintoftherails November 29, 2020 6:39 PM GMT
GL PH. fairplay to you for laying fair bet.
Report privatehire November 29, 2020 6:40 PM GMT
Ta paint.
Report now wheres that switch!!! November 29, 2020 6:58 PM GMT
11/10!!! Christmas has come early!! Can miss it and still beat these to the bend.. can turn left out of boxes, take a few bumps and still make the bend. A class act running against some very mediocre dogs. Class will out!!
Report Captain carnage November 29, 2020 7:12 PM GMT
You wont have had many happy christmas' if you smash/depend on short
priced bang railers out of t5 in Cat 1 finals to get the turkey.
Report irishone November 29, 2020 7:16 PM GMT
Gone with three at this stage

Fair play to tenpin if he wins
Would boost his fame
Report now wheres that switch!!! November 29, 2020 7:18 PM GMT
Remains to be seen whether bang rails or not... but certainly happy to take odds against running against this average mob. Track no going s yard inside either... so not going to need to worry about the early inside as it’s like quicksand there tonight!
Report irishone November 29, 2020 8:13 PM GMT
5\4 now ...getting backable
Report sparrow November 29, 2020 8:45 PM GMT
Had a small interest on 6 in the final.
Report sparrow November 29, 2020 8:51 PM GMT
8/11 with the jolly old bookmaker Laugh
Report now wheres that switch!!! November 29, 2020 8:55 PM GMT
Guess we will never know....
Report sparrow November 29, 2020 8:56 PM GMT
Well done layers.
Report Deptford November 29, 2020 8:56 PM GMT
All over within a yard
Report FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK November 29, 2020 8:57 PM GMT
Well done ph
Two as bingo
Report irishone November 29, 2020 8:59 PM GMT
Well done p h great confidence
Report privatehire November 29, 2020 10:21 PM GMT
As an esteemed judge on here from over the water once said to me. Some guess. Others know. With that pearl i bid u goodnight.
Report irishone November 30, 2020 6:20 AM GMT
Laugh
Report now wheres that switch!!! November 30, 2020 8:59 AM GMT
And in this case “ the guessers” got it right with tenpin. Walked out the boxes. Showed by far the best early but can’t afford to miss it as bad as he did. Any resemblance of a level break and would have been 3 clear at the bend. Somehow Patrick has got  Lion to win two finals this year...
Report ItsMeSwaddle November 30, 2020 10:24 AM GMT
Strange...NWTS everyone sees it different but to me we are all"guessing" at the make up of the race out of the traps, thats the game?

If it pings and 4 clear at bend it wins.
If its moderate its probably still 1-2 clear at bend...SP
Comes out like that it can't win.

Evens about fair?
I made 13/10 big and didn't lay.
Report FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK November 30, 2020 11:16 AM GMT
Looks  to me he’s another Ferrari lover
Any draw wins fella
To call people on here guessers he’s taking the Mickey
Fella that told jet needed few zero s on end of price s
He pearls of wisdom where again Ferrari types that still running rd Notts now
Report Captain carnage November 30, 2020 11:23 AM GMT
Disagree.
Tenpin  - the fastest dog with the best ep in that race. However.
He is bang rails, watch him from T2 and his T3 romford trial.
He can cheat a modest/missed break from T1, possibly T2 because he has a straight uncontested line to
run through.
From T3/4/5 in a race like that he is charging straight into dogs like
Lettuce/Lion/Balynabee who are the same speed over the first 25 metres. In fact after a predictable shoddy start he couldnt clear the slug starting Lenson dog.
He had to smash from T5 to clear and I cant remember the last time a bang railer who has only ever been in T1/2 has done that first time in the box.

Like every other pro dog punter who did that race he was as clear and obvious lay at around evens-5/4 as you could get, it should be on the schools curriculum.
Report FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK November 30, 2020 11:31 AM GMT
Even if he smashed
Still would had get over in one
Piece with out his back end being turned rd
More in shock two cleared 1-3 imo
Two cat ones for lion that could easy turn up at hove get beat in egg spoon race
Report now wheres that switch!!! November 30, 2020 11:36 AM GMT
There are many knowledgable punters on here and I respect plenty. But my point was at the 8/15 4/6 quotes it was worth a lay for the reasons outlined by many. Once became an odds against shot I felt no value in being a layer as too much guesswork involved in to what was going to play out. As it turned out, he came out slower than JK leaving the buffet cart, and fair play to those who got the money!!
Report irishone November 30, 2020 11:43 AM GMT
You lads trying to read
The minds of dogs ?
guessing.....is probably
the best description
Report wondersobright November 30, 2020 12:21 PM GMT
my view
you lay evens about a dog that goes off 2.37, doesn't matter long term whether it wins or loses
the punter doing that time after time is no guesser
Report now wheres that switch!!! November 30, 2020 12:35 PM GMT
The above would be true if there were any strength to the market in question. Takes hardly more than £1k to either push out or cave in a price here ( even on big finals). Well from personal experience that’s how I’ve found it. My point again was that once it went to 5/4 11/8 etc... then it becomes a guess not worth taking. Too many variables to warrant a lay at that price. But laying 4/6 etc was worth that chance.
Report wondersobright November 30, 2020 1:15 PM GMT
there was over 100k matched on the race & 2.37 was a pretty fair SP imo
Report now wheres that switch!!! November 30, 2020 1:23 PM GMT
Exactly.. 100k.. terrible liquidity these days on here. By the time the books have hedged that takes out 75% of that liquidity. Means £25k been bet/layed on the race between the punters. A handful of people laying 2k or betting 2k and that’s the liquidity taken up. Hence it doesn’t take much to change a price at all
Report now wheres that switch!!! November 30, 2020 1:25 PM GMT
Not a reflection on just the greyhound markets, horse markets also running at a fraction of past good years. Whether it’s the premium charge or not I’m not sure. I don’t mind paying it along with plenty of others I know, but it becomes irritable when it’s leaving markets open to huge fluctuations for very little money...
Report privatehire November 30, 2020 2:04 PM GMT
£115,687 matched. If memory serves that was more than the derby. Not sinse the demise of sky av we seen that much traded. Only bin watching them run 55 yrs. There was no form to go on for him being out in car park. But u can form an opinion on wot u,v seen over the years. Thats y we do it. I put on twitter last night its not about the money anymore. Its about being right. Prove to myself i,m still seeing things right an keeping my mind active. Have a good day gents.
Report sparrow November 30, 2020 2:40 PM GMT
You had it spot on private by continuing to lay it up to 2.4 unlike those with no opinion saying at odds on or evens it was a lay and at 2.4 or whatever it magically became a back.
Report now wheres that switch!!! November 30, 2020 3:43 PM GMT
PH., you are one of the most knowledgable around and it’s nice that a few of the old school posters are still here and betting their judgement. Fair play to you and I’m sure this won’t be the only time opinions clash.. but that’s why this game is the best around, the way we see races, prices and value. It’s the best sport around for that and I hope it has many years to come. Be lucky all.
Report irishone November 30, 2020 4:30 PM GMT
It didnt magically become a back sparrow
It became a back when it yielded a suitable return
Weighing whether a bet yields a suitable return is what it is all about isnt it ?
Report privatehire November 30, 2020 4:31 PM GMT
It would be boring and much harder switch if we all wanted to back the same dogs switch. All the best.
Report sparrow November 30, 2020 4:48 PM GMT
irishone 30 Nov 20 17:30 
It didnt magically become a back sparrow
It became a back when it yielded a suitable return
Weighing whether a bet yields a suitable return is what it is all about isnt it ?




It might have become a worthwhile bet for you irish, but not for me I'm afraid.
Report wedge1 November 30, 2020 6:17 PM GMT
eddie yet again your insight inspired my reasoning and i am a tad older than you sense is sense top man
Report Winja November 30, 2020 7:02 PM GMT
irishone • November 30, 2020 11:43 AM GMT
You lads trying to read The minds of dogs ? guessing.....is probably the best description

the potential of probability can be gained either by guessing.....lazy town......undertake the mathematical equations...only reliable with known inputs or through years of educated experience gained by watching untold races allowing the provision of analytical decisions based on expert opinion.......for my money ph falls into the last category which is in a different post code to those guessing.......
Report irishone December 1, 2020 9:33 AM GMT
you never ever know what is going through an animals brain.
Its hard enough working out humans.
So we are guessing what they are thinking.
How good we are at guessing , is what we pay to learn.
The odds that you get , and hopefully the return is your reward.
But one thing in this sport is absolutely certain in my experience.
You never know.
Report Winja December 1, 2020 7:43 PM GMT
do you honestly believe that those consistently winning at the game are just better guessers than those who struggle.........
Report Takethepaintoftherails December 1, 2020 8:41 PM GMT
some are stuck in the bracket of ok judges. bad punters imo.
Report irishone December 2, 2020 5:50 AM GMT
Exactly paint.
Big difference between judging whats going to happen in a race.....or trying to ......
Getting the probabilities right.
Then punting accordingly.
Report privatehire February 20, 2021 6:51 PM GMT
Is it me or has this dog completely changed his style of running. He has undoubted big speed but i feel 25/1 for derby is laughable. He dont finish of his races anymore imo.you do want be of front towcester but i feel 500 be beyond him these days.
Report Czechbet February 20, 2021 7:05 PM GMT
hard to make you wrong PH, front runners track or not 500 be hard to see out full tilt

win or lose 25s is silly
Report Captain carnage February 21, 2021 12:04 PM GMT
Should be miles bigger. Draw dependant dog over a searching trip!

Was the lay of lays back at central park but now even the lazy punters who thought he was
just `an aeroplane' are falling over themselves to push him out when draw outside qaw/fast up dogs.
Report privatehire February 21, 2021 1:17 PM GMT
Defo media hyped dog. They cant c it or they can and wont admit they are wrong about him. Could u imagine him running saturday night 550 h.q. impossible.
Report wedge1 February 21, 2021 3:48 PM GMT
trap 1 tenpin
trap 2 deerjet sydney
trap 3 knocknabaoul syd
trap 4 great name that
trap 5 newinn session
trap 6 auxerre
525yards or 550 yards
what price in that field the red
Report wedge1 February 21, 2021 3:53 PM GMT
obviously at hq
for the numbskulls
shelbourne
Report casemoney February 21, 2021 3:53 PM GMT
I would bet him in that race , Round tow Laugh Never been beat from red
Report casemoney February 21, 2021 3:54 PM GMT
@ CP he would be favourite IMO
Report casemoney February 21, 2021 3:57 PM GMT
Dog needs red or 2 with a slug inside  , draws have beaten many a good un .

25s Short enough but looking at whats around and where the race will be cant be much bigger
Report privatehire February 21, 2021 4:07 PM GMT
Imo he,s a 66/1 chance currently. Wedge has put up 5 random dogs. H.q. he would probably get lapped. You av to realise the difference btwn irish dogs an english dogs is huge. You only need to look at last few derbys. Cant find english dogs on radar. The irish dont sell the good dogs anymore. I reckon i could name 20 dogs 525 irish dogs that would lick him in a match h.q. upwards of 30 dogs 550.
Report casemoney February 21, 2021 4:11 PM GMT
Ill have a 2000-30 anyone wants to stick 66 up Grin
Report casemoney February 21, 2021 4:13 PM GMT
if SP i would not bet him Just that Tow hes an Ideal dog if he can grab rail would keep qualifying
Report casemoney February 21, 2021 4:15 PM GMT
Which in itself sums up the Exciting derby that we have to look forward to. Dogs are all still cascading inwards round 3rd and 4th bend Sad
Report privatehire February 21, 2021 4:42 PM GMT
Ye i dont like gaff case for reasons you give. There are several others. You dont c dogs come of rail goin into 3rd n come round dogs. Very rarely.
Report casemoney February 21, 2021 6:07 PM GMT
Spot on Ph it seems they are all being forced in wards Very strange
Report Czechbet February 21, 2021 7:46 PM GMT
agree lads am sure we would all genuinely love to support it, but its got to be sorted especially before the tote lands
Report mesi February 21, 2021 8:18 PM GMT
Wouldnt bet anything inside Deerjet
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