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clacton 08 May 20 18:21
Wedge You put me at over 80 and 80% right. Suppose thats not too bad. I dont know how you put me at over 80 but you got it right. Clacton......The clue was Ballylanigan Tanist in 1951. |
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I was 13 at the time. I backed the first 5 winners if I remember rightly.
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clacton....My dad used to take me to White City in the 1950s when he worked as a clerk for Johnnie White senior and I would be 11 years old when Pigalle Wonder won the Derby.
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white city what a greyhound stadium iv got the steptoe and son vidio only cos its got white city in it the tote clocks the track the stadium loved the place
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one idea i've always muted for, is the bigger stadiums should try to get a casino on site, that could bring in new customers, especially wives and girlfriends, could generate more revenue, be great if Towcester started it off, they have the capacity to do it, a track like Shawfield whose patronage is poor but has huge space would thrive, just a thought. cheers.
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^^^mooted.^^cheers.
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the bairn.....We had a casino at Clapton Stadium back in the 60s and it was very popular.
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Casino horse tracks in the States flourishing , many with a Hotel on site as well
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There has to be another way , The sport is being held at Ransom by the Books , Those on the gravy train quite happy to carry on as is ...
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there was a casino at hendon greyhound track after racing was a lot of people there
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Sheffield Napoleons , How are sheff doing ??
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Theyve got the settup all badly wrong there imo, could be very very good.
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Clacton "it cant change overnight"
Wrong. It changed over night when covid turned up. |
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Nothing has changed. There are still thousands of dogs waiting to run. Bookmakers will still want a race every 5 minutes.
You tell me what has or will change. |
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Thats not my point
Just saying that accepting the situation with the "it is what it is" statement Means you dont want to see change or accept it.... Which you have proved to be so. Also one questions your motives or your incentive Hobbsy and the fat controller regularly pass things off with that statement because they are funded by the bookies Good job they werent around when hitler invaded poland |
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Im not saying its perfect, but it wont change for the reasons I stated. I have not said I dont want it to change but if you think anything will then you are in dreamland.
The only reason the game keeps going is because bookmakers get what they want, Without them there is no income. Maybe you can tell me how that can change. |
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What are the changes you want. Tell me
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Don’t think much is going to change.. but don’t think open racing is the big draw it used to be. Would have to question people paying tens of thousands for dogs when the “showcase” event is run at a gaff like Nottingham for p$$ poor money. Sadly I feel what we have had recently is going to be the norm.
On a side note.. I’ve asked this on another thread.. just which rules would be being broken if greyhound racing started up again this week? Obviously not possible.. but can’t see any rules/legal basis for why it couldn’t happen |
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People who want change never have any answers how to change it. Thats why it wont change.
When there were thousands going through the turnstiles the tracks could live without giving the power to the bookmakers. Look at Harlow for instance when its on RPTV. Its empty. So who pays the prize money? The bookmakers. Gonna be a clever man to change that. It wont happen |
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Come on Irishone, you want change, lets hear it.
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Irishone your aggresive post questionning my motives and wanting no changes, then the usual crap about Hobbsy, and then the bollocks about Hitler invading Poland. If thats the best you can do then best you stay in Dreamland.
You have had plenty of time to say what changes you want. As usual you cant name any. You just talk crap with no substance. |
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clacton
10 May 20 14:34 Joined: 28 Oct 04 | Topic/replies: 1,913 | Blogger: clacton's blog Irishone your aggresive post questionning my motives and wanting no changes, then the usual crap about Hobbsy, and then the bollocks about Hitler invading Poland. If thats the best you can do then best you stay in Dreamland. You have had plenty of time to say what changes you want. As usual you cant name any. You just talk crap with no substance. that deserves an answer from my point of view but until I know what b j says I will reserve my response |
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Who's bj. Boris Johnson? Whats he got to do with dog racing. Are you for real.
What a prat you are, Just go away. |
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Clacton
a pratt I maybe I was actually taking your stance but before the pm or bj as probably sums it talks I reserve my response like I previously pointed out I respect my elders but if you wish to abuse my thoughts in the meantime that's fine by me |
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For a start clacton i would want positive leadership and transparency from the gbgb and then trainers and owners fully represented on the board.
Then i would want the bookmakers owning tracks much more tightly regulated. Not interested in personal insults to you clacton, but the sport is on its knees because of the "it is what it is " and people failing to move with the times |
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Then there is greyhound welfare. That issue that the current gbgb put at the forefront of their policy ....bollux
Dogs running three times in ten days.....ban it Trainers that dont train Letting the track do what they should be doing ....reduce average kennel numbers per kennel hand Then there is track manipulation Do the dogs come first ? All track treatment to be logged,verified and controlled. Then there is the issue of transparency. Who is making the dosh if it aint the trainers or the owners ? |
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The biggest problem clacton
Is that greyhound racing has become too much of a business So any move to get it back to being a sport Would be very very welcome I refer here to reversing back to the sports roots More trainers more owners Smaller family operations Where the greyhounds are pets as well as racers Yep ....dreamland...but here in galway |
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Clacton
You say nothing has changed You are not right How long has covid had greyhound racing locked down over there This virus. Has shown That things we never imagined happening can and DO happen It has changed, theres no fecking racing !!!!! |
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All this in fighting within the forum sums up the sport at present!! Everyone should be pulling together more than ever right now. I’m not sure why they have not started trialling already as it wouldn’t be breaching any lockdown rules. They could have continued racing, but the GBGB bottled it for fear of how it would look to those outside the sport...
those outside the sport will never like it.. so just crack on!! |
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in my eyes now that golf and fishing are back from Wednesday
albeit with sensible measures in place the hounds will start trials once they can agree on the safe practice at the sough |
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You dont say where all the money is coming from for all these wonderful ideas.
The only place is from bookmakers and they then demand how the sport is run. Ive never said its right but it wont change. Thats all im saying about it because its not going anywhere. |
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Clac theoretically...
If someone said to you...your dogs can run 3 times in 10 days for £100 a winner, £20 if you dont win. Or you can run 3 times in 30 days for £500 a winner and £100 a loser...which would you take? Blatant pros and cons are more chances to gamble your dogs but then more chance of an injury also. Just to tie in with the other thread..I think a lot more people would be interested in owning if becoming a race was a big deal. |
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ItsMeSwaddle
11 May 20 17:43 Joined: 19 Oct 15 | Topic/replies: 5,429 | Blogger: ItsMeSwaddle's blog An idea i would lean towards is grade every dog at the start of the calendar month. Lets say you have 36 A5 dogs attached to the track that are fit. Top two win the normal dire prize money they usually would do but at-least into the next round of the A5 comp. Then 2 races acting as semi finals with all the qualifiers in.... 6 qualify from that for a final...winner of this round gets a little more than the 1st round ... Then a final with a cash incentive to win it, not loads, but something worth having...double upgrade to the winner and downgrades for 1st round losers or something like that.... Maybe a floored plan...but just serve up anything apart from the 12-14 race dross cards all 2 and 4 bends...all terrible prize money.....make people want to tune in next week. this will have more relevance here I for one would not you grading my graders |
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Just anything rather than what we have currently?
How can it possibly be any worse bar not having the sport at all? |