Where is the leadership..???

This is what I put on another thread.
'Cant see why racing behind closed doors would present any problems. How many people would need to be there? Not many.
Providing people take care it could easily get started.
I hope the GBGB are pressing to get it going otherwise it could be months'.

Surely if football are expecting to get the go-ahead then Greyhound racing must be miles in front of them. Football is a contact sport.
The GBGB must put the case because the government will not come running to the greyhound industry. I dont suppose greyhound racing ever enters politicians heads.
Cant see any reason why it would present any problems behind closed doors.

I just can’t see any evidence that the GBGB have even tried to get the sport back going. Why when they can see how it’s possible to keep going in Australia with social distancing in place, have they not been able to carry on? The sport is not on a list that says it can’t be on... there are very few people at a greyhound venue at the best of times. It carried on behind closed doors with as far as I’m aware no cases found? Then all kinds of panic spread amongst the BHA and GBGB after BOJO’s speech and the next day it was shut down. Now this virus is horrendous.. and no one wants to be in a position where there is added risk of spreading the infection, but there is no scientific evidence that this was, or would be the case at a greyhound stadium.
As far as I’m aware, there isn’t actually anything written anywhere that would prevent a meeting taking place.. they seem scared as to how it will look to the antis etc. Well the antis will always hate the sport, the public don’t have it as their highest concern, so i repeat, why don’t the powers that be try actually looking like they care..?

patience
behind the scenes shed loads is going on for it to resume
other than that I am being told bull
I believe we will resume well before other sports

i was told in may for certain dog tracks and horse tracks get to get move on loads of dogs to trial in

Questions need to asked as to what is Going on ,Other than A couple of Updates from Hobbsy  we

have heard nothing , I have raised the desperate situation we are fast approaching on here

several Times .......

HAS THE FACT THAT THE LIVES OF HUNDREDS IF NOT THOUSANDS OF DOGS ARE AT STAKE BEEN PUT FORWARD ??

BY THE GBGB ALL THEY SEEM BE INTERESTED IN IS A RUK WITH THE RGT ..................

All we have on the Racing post is how well some dogs are being looked after by their Trainers

From the bruizer boys , and long may it last ,what about the rest of the

Industry  ??     

The Bills that are not being paid people having to offload dogs  Etc .... not much

Mention of That , where is JK in all this why are there not RPTV specials that can be

Filmed from home to keep people updated .. Unbelievable TBH

What money are the GBGB actually getting from the Government would be a good starting point

Never mind the RGT funds being investigated ....

behind the scenes shed loads is going on for it to resume

Well you are getting better info than 90 % of us wedge  Other than Hobbsy I have heard Sweet F.A

case like I said other than that could be bull
end of day tracks will close fact
maybe the demise
is in progress I sincerely hope not this virus will be not the reason the greed will be

The industry will do well to survive this but maybe a few tracks will still be operating this time next year.

sparrow certain tracks will close because they are prime development

Need to be Operating next Month sparrow , This Virus is going no where ,Until a Vaccine ,

The sport needs to be up and running in the Next 2 months ,in some form be it BCD  or what

Ever , if Millions are attending Supermarkets daily ,What possible problem can 30/40  People

Following SD at a dog track cause ,its Madness ,Complete madness ....

When you have some Mob running the Show that has spent Thousands upon Thousands on Incredible

Office space over the years . it does not Instill much Confidence ,If and When the sport

Does return that Issue needs to be  addressed as a matter of Urgency  , and the saved Funds

Re directed to where they are needed ,I will be starting a Petition among the Greyhound community

Calling for The swift Movement of the So called head office to more affordable  surroundings

I would also like to Ask Mr Bird to answer why the Situation was let Continue for so long  and

Totals on what was actually Spent ... I would also like to know to who ?

There will be 100 times that amount on the TUBE NOW !!!

Fantastic to see the Monday  news column on the RP , giving us a Flash Back to 2011

Absolutely unbelievable

Could some c@nt provide some sort of a news update on there FFS  ... WTF is going on ?

case
too busy slurping the lockdown gravy

But there is no News of any sort , its crazy ...

This seemed the ideal sport to bring back 1st but I suppose its got very little clout compared to the nags and football.  I think the GBGB needs dissolving.

Perhaps those at the top have dibbed into the fund to furlough each other.... is it actually written anywhere that anyone can see that prevents racing taking place? It says persons can work if they are not able to work at home..? Surely it then follows that trainers etc can travel to work.? A bags meeting can’t count as a social gathering so that rules that reason out.. there is more chance of catching or spreading the virus in a local newsagent still open as there is at Perry Barr on a Tuesday morning! So my question is why don’t those who proclaim to be running the sport provide evidence of just what they have been doing for the past 5 weeks?

With a dearth of betting content available worldwide, British greyhound racing is poised to be up running as soon as the current social distancing regulations are relaxed. The last piece of sporting action in the UK before the lockdown was the 9.22 from Nottingham on the evening of Monday 23 March. Mark Bird, managing director of the Greyhound Board of Great Britain told Gambling Compliance; “we were the last show in town when we were racing behind closed doors and we’re hoping to be the first to return when conditions and regulations.”
Bird is leading an industry wide group that examining ways racing can resume; “we are looking at how we can race at tracks with increased social distancing while maintain high welfare and integrity standards.”
“We’re looking at how we limit contact between trainers, handlers and track staff and enhancing hygiene controls in line with any new government guidelines.” He added that feedback from government and key politicians suggests that the sport’s efforts to comply with social distancing regulations while racing behind closed doors has been acknowledged.
It will not be a simple matter of just resuming racing as greyhounds will need to be got fit and ready after weeks of inactivity. Under the Rules of Racing there is a requirement for greyhounds which haven’t raced for 28 days to have two trials before they can race again, which would suggest a three week delay to the resumption of racing. Bird says that is an issue the working group is looking at; “sprint trials don’t take as much out of the dogs so can happen more frequently than full trials. We are also looking at the possibility of some dispensations.”
Satellite Information Services (SIS) own the media rights to a number of tracks and broadcast races to betting shops and for online operators. SIS Product Director Paul Witten told Gambling Compliance that SIS was ready for a resumption: “We’re absolutely ready to race, but we would probably need a week to 10 days’ notice. Some trainers have their own schooling track so their dogs could be fit and ready straight away, but many do not. We need to have racing that is competitive, fair and safe.”
Witten adds that a possible problem could be if betting shops remain closed; “If we are racing but betting shops remain closed, as seems likely, there is going to be a significant funding gap. We would be limited to providing content for the online market.” Online greyhound betting turnover is likely to rise, however, if it is the “only show in town”.
There are also financial implications for the sport as a whole. The GBGB is funded through a voluntary levy of 0.6% of betting turnover and is facing an increased welfare spend. It has been paying trainers £0.50 a day for feed for their dogs and has paid out over £250,000 so far. The longer racing is suspended, the more strain will be put on the sports finances. As Bird puts it; “We need to be racing to stop a financial crisis becoming a welfare one”.

"Witten adds that a possible problem could be if betting shops remain closed; “If we are racing but betting shops remain closed, as seems likely, there is going to be a significant funding gap. We would be limited to providing content for the online market.” Online greyhound betting turnover is likely to rise, however, if it is the only show in town”.

DONT MAKE ME LAFF

WIN MUNNEE REDUCED FROM £100 to £40.

Dogs need to be trialing ASAP absolutely no reason why that cannot go ahead .

I’m seriously starting to think the bookmakers are happy with this furloughed scheme and think that by starting up racing again they’ll have to pay staffs wages and will be worse off than they are at present, as without horses the dogs won’t bring them enough money in to actually make it better than the furloughed situation. I’m really struggling to find another reason as to why no steps to start racing again are being made.

Agree, don't see the harm racing with small crowds distancing or at the very least, behind closed doors

It's an animal rights issue now

Question...
Would the GBGB be breaking any rules imposed if meetings were going ahead behind closed doors? Social distancing in place.. it’s a trainers work which cannot be undertaken from home, like many who are still in the motor trade etc. Mot’s still going ahead, car showrooms still open. Not a social gathering as only licenced persons on site.. so would it actually be stopped if it resumed?

Where are the leadership.? They are all shut mate, cant collect cheltenham monies or ave a bet on the high street

When this current LOCKDOWN IS LIFTED , trials must start .

Even if dogs can get a spin or two round a track ..............

I see no reason why trials cannot start up , perhaps GBGB can explain what the Problem is ?

A month of Trials racing back June ??

Case, the article says they will go for it as soon as possible. If there is a dispensation that sprint trials can count to grade in over four bends, you could have two sprint trials in a week and then race over four bends the following week.
That would have to happen after the lockdown has been lifted, but it seems certain that social distancing guidelines will still apply to most sectors. 8 race meetings with four trainers supplying the dogs has been muted as being the easiest way of complying with the guidelines.

Trailing has to be ridiculously low % chance of spread if you are using 1 kennel in 1 out system?

Catford the Whole situation is Becoming rediculous , as Stated  millions daily at Supermarkets , There is horse racing in America ,its like the 7th cavalry has turned up with outriders Etc ,  The welfare issues regarding our Sport
are unique ,I want dogs trialing I am not interested in Racing at the present Moment

B N Q have reopened FFS , Get the Dogs Trialing Look at BCD racing in June

Got a feeling this forum is going to be down in numbers in future. Average death age is 80 over there isnt it ?

12 days and not an update on the Post Dog site ,Incredible tbh

Horse site world wide updates daily ..........

As I previously said , What happens when the Gambling Adds are pulled ?  How will RPTV operate while that lasts ??

Getting silly now, no news?

I think they are best stamping the little authority they have (a bit like the german and french horses did) and saying we will race X dat, to me that date should be June 1st?

With a bit of luck, room for 3 trials before it?

X date

Why are they not able to tell the government that they intend to start back on such and such date.... they were never told to stop! They were carrying on with suitable measures in place until the government went into dads army mode. Other countries that are managing to carry on must be questioning the leadership over here too? Grow a pair, and get the show back on the road. This virus isn’t going to go anywhere anytime soon.. however greyhound racing starting again is not going to make any difference to how many persons catch it, or when they do..

Deffo plans etc being sorted at the Moment  , So should be new in a few days when does this LOCKDOWN period End ??


I would imagine there will be an update in the post tomorrow .....

don't see how any announcement can be made until the pm sets his plans on the 7th
appreciate something is in place but gun jumping
could and would be detrimental

With the current Carry on Between the GBGB  v RGT  complete lack of any news or plans being made available to Joe Public

The word Detrimental Covers Matters ... 

The plans are there and I would Imagine have been put forward , be nice for everyone to know what they are .....

I believe we may well be returning to 8 race cards if and when there is any resumption ..

We could have updates from various tracks on how they are Coping or may cope ??   Its been weeks FFS 

Will the betting industry still be able to provide the same level of Financial support , there are many many questions

That will concern us all  , BUT nothing ....

As I stated what Harm JK having a special on RPGTV  people could email in Questions and Concerns the post could provide Updates The whole thing
could be done online ,Like most businesses in the UK, is it too much to ask for a few updates ??

Does anyone know whats going on with their Local Track , Bar owners and Trainers that's if they know , Because I don't ...

Its like everything is some kind of TOP SECRET business ...

I put on another thread what the editor of The Greyhound Star said. He seems to think everything is being done to get the show back on the road. He also thought the plan had been well received by the greyhound world.
But as you say we are never told anything. The horseracing people have started to make a programme of meetings if it gets going soon.
Have the BGBG done this?
It will take a long time to trial every dog in every kennel. Why not get this going now.

Anyone else heard rumours that Hove are to start trialling in a week or 2. ??

Sounds About right  Glasgow , but there are only a few of us on here who actually bother commenting on the RETURN ..

... I know what you mean case, Blind leading the Blind sums it up Nicely.! 

May 3, 2020 -- 8:15PM, clacton wrote:

I put on another thread what the editor of The Greyhound Star said. He seems to think everything is being done to get the show back on the road. He also thought the plan had been well received by the greyhound world.But as you say we are never told anything. The horseracing people have started to make a programme of meetings if it gets going soon.Have the BGBG done this?It will take a long time to trial every dog in every kennel. Why not get this going now.

Yeah check where this blokes tongue is.

Pat Kelly from Hove on the Racing Post site thinks it will be back soon. Agrees with most people that a meeting could be run by about 30 on track.
Lets hope he's right and it gets started soon.

Nothing till late May

**** Nose when opens get going

Statement from GBGB just gone on Racing Post dog site.

Local trainer, Henlow & Towcester tells me that 2 clearing trials required before a dog is eligible to run.
That's an awful lot of trials to be done before the show gets on the road.

june behind closed doors provisio boris statement 7th may

Cant understand some of the policies they are putting forward.
Phase two – Resumption of racing behind closed doors (a maximum of ten races at a minimum of 30 minutes’ gap between races).
Why do you need 30 minutes between races. Five hours for 10 races. They joking.

Plus the time the dogs have to be kennelled. The handlers will be there nearly all day.
If this is the best the GBGB can do, then time someone else took over the reins.

What do you other dog men think about the GBGB statement.

Managing director of GBGB Mark Bird had been to one dog meeting before he joined the GBGB.
How do these clowns get the top job with no experience. No wonder the sport is f****d.

May 4, 2020 -- 7:22PM, RothmanMike wrote:

Local trainer, Henlow & Towcester tells me that 2 clearing trials required before a dog is eligible to run.That's an awful lot of trials to be done before the show gets on the road.

This is actually positive.

Middle to late June be play time if any for opens

30 mins is Kennels etc Clacton , Washing dogs down etc Be too many in same area , Just get em trialing we will worry about racing after that ..

Prob be 8 race meets

There are hundreds of dogs at some tracks. If they have 8 races, some dogs will never get a run.
The number of races and time between them is not the plan thats needed to take to the government. 30 minutes between races is absolute crazy.
Still what can we expect from the GBGB. They are useless.

Get the trials going ASAP , be a start and will give an Idea how to move forward Safely

Some of these rules Hard to follow I go shopping and every time we come back we have forgot

something , Half the time following arrows standing in Squares avoiding others , its hardly

Surprising ..

May 3, 2020 -- 1:21PM, ItsMeSwaddle wrote:

Getting silly now, no news?I think they are best stamping the little authority they have (a bit like the german and french horses did) and saying we will race X dat, to me that date should be June 1st?With a bit of luck, room for 3 trials before it?

Nearly, just 2 trails though.

I like many do not have any time for the GBGB so cant read anything they put out with credibility.