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3x 515 races at hove today
3x 515 races at hove today
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.. Not been to Hove for a few years now, I know Steve one of the bookies there then used to post on here now and
again, it would be intresting to hear his views. !! games changed drastically over the past few years, not for the better i am afraid. |
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Have been doing the Hove graded for a few years and the track has been transformed since the Lads /Carols merger .We are seeing the ongoing Bagsification process in all its glory.Videos are going to be the next "improvement". The bookmakers greed and paranoia is such that they are killing the golden goose by accident.
Agree with all the 490m comments ,the racing is appalling .From a selfish betting point of view i am doing well out of them but they are a dreadful spectacle compared to 515ms. |
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Correction to my previous post as that graded marathon at Romford was over 1030 yards.
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in the eighties and nineties if you had a sprinter it was a nightmare..... had a dog at hackney couldnt get the 484....took him to catford and at full race pace couldnt get the 385.....was a nightmare....never won a race......14 or so seconds....you can guess the comments.....led to 4th......now he would be in his element.....
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3x515m tommorrow again
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Just a quick flick through the results so far today shows 1 winning fav from the first 9 races - I’m guessing that, just like the introduction of the 490m races, this too will be “well received”..
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One winning fav from 14 races including two winners at 8-1 and two at 10-1. Not bad, although there may well be an enquiry as to why they weren’t ALL beaten!!
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You fail to mention that on Wednesday there were 6 winning favs at Hove and that the previous week hove had the 2nd highest percentage of winning favs of all the SIS tracks, 37%. To use one meeting in isolation is not a sound idea.
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Fair point Pompey...
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pompey please explain why you pipe up on this as your opinion is rare
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Pompey, According to Greyhound Stats UK, favourites in graded races at Hove have a winning strike rate of 31.6%...
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Aladin. The 37% I referred to was last weeks returns. The 31.6% you refer to is for the whole year, which is probably about what you would expect at most tracks. Regards....Steve
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Wedge 1. I did not realise that I had to make a certain number of posts per week before I was allowed to have an opinion.
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steve was not having dig at your lack of posting just the fact you guys are loving the tosh the track supply in the form of racing you lot must be raking it in
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Disagree with alot of this thread.
The stuff about 515m racing and 6 bends being a punters benefit and sprints/short runs to the bend being bookies races is plain and simple garbage. Its not even worth debating. Just about every top judge in the country has tried 515m hove graded over the years and to my knowledge everyone has given it up. I also don't know 1 out of many pro punters who specialise in the 6 bend races. Like Hector I much prefer the 490m graded than the 515m from a betting angle. Tracks like Crayford/Sunderland with a much longer run to bend than the 490m have way more trouble at the first bend. I do admit the ideal would have been moving the winning line back 15m and having a 500m trip so it would become the obvious Derby home. |
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One winning Fav and two jt. favs from today’s 14 races making that just 8 winning Favs and 3 Jt.Favs from the last 40 races. Continue like this and they’ll be below 30% before too long. I’m sure they realise that when people start to think that they can’t possibly win they just won’t bet. Agree with hector, they are in real danger of “killing the golden goose”.........As for those on here that DO make it pay around there I congratulate you, but I’m happy to admit I now find it impossible and won’t be investing - consequently....I’m out!
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aladdin i have punted hove for about 10 years and done well every year,i onlp play 515m and 695 now as the 490 is not for me.
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Just TWO 515’s on tonight’s 12 race card. The number of dogs that stay the trip must be dwindling even more!!!
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someone high up has decided that 515 will become obsolete nothing wrong with 490 if the winning line was moved but hey it aint never the place has become a joke
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Can u imagine the scenario. They get derby n then say its 490.
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I’m not sure the owners of the track even want the Derby. I don’t recall them showing any interest in hosting the event over the last couple of years.
Impossible to fathom graded sprints and 490’s will do just fine thank you very much! |
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From wot i heard lately there hat will be in the ring.
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I bow to your greater knowledge if that is indeed the case Private and am happy to take back my sarcastic last comment.
Best running track by a mile and, in my humble opinion, should’ve hosted the Derby after White City closed. |
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I dont think many would argue with u aladdin. I think the thing thats held hove back most is the parking. I dont know how far away the horserace track is away but i ,ve heard that may be a way
forward. A park n ride shuttle bus service. I know central park av sponsors in place for nice few quid. Whether ladbroke/coral want to take up the cudgel we will wait n c. |
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Just the 3 races again over 515m Tuesday. **** **** ruining our sport. Scum.
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brighton horse race course would be a no no for park and ride the scheme they have in place for football maybe it is easy to access the track from all directions trouble is their is nowhere apart from the finishing straight to view it
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Apologies for bumping this thread up to the to again, but Rob Abrey from the Hove Racing Office is on RPGTV tonight. If memory serves me right, he was the chap that, when last on, said that the 490m races had been “well received”. Interesting to see if he sticks to that view should they have time to discuss the issue..
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will be hcp racing by this time next year
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Yes Doc, probably over 285 and 490m, and I guarantee that, if implemented, they too will be “well received”!!
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They’ve almost achieved their dream card tomorrow.....just the one 515 on the card
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Wow - the dogs that don’t stay 515 is obviously dwindling faster than we thought!!
As you say Garryc - sad, sad day.. |
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its got nothing to do with dogs not staying 515 the 25 metre run less up to the first turn is the point
hence the management not moving the line back would of been simple back in the day hove raced over 525 yards and no banked bends easy investment set the world record in a graded race 28.17 nowaydays the betting industry want a conundrum so as to glean the profit in my view the game is fecked |
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forgot to state the finish line was same then as now
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Forgive me Wedge as I was being a tad sarcastic.
If you flick back to the top of this thread, you’ll see that the “we don’t have enough dogs that stay 515” excuse was put forward by the Hove rep when appearing on RPGTV a while back to justify the introduction of the 490 races. Like you, I don’t believe it either! |
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News filtering through they're having every graded race over 500 soon
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HOVE is to introduce a new 500m distance which will be used for all four-bend graded races as the 490m trip brought in last December has proven operationally difficult due to the graded strength being split between it and 515m.
Introduced as a less demanding distance than the tough former standard of 515m, there has been a mixed reaction to 490m racing, and new racing manager Daniel Rankin, who made the move from Shawfield earlier this month, has decided to act. “There's no doubt the 490m was brought in for the right intentions,” he said. “But it's led to a very confused graded situation with two four-bend distances as we've still been using the 515m trip. “As a result there are some real imbalances in terms of what seeds are available for the various grades and it will simplify things enormously by having all our four-bend graded races over 500m. “I've canvassed the opinions of our trainers who have all been in favour so we are going to press on as quickly as possible, hopefully by the end of the year. “We will maintain the one winning line so the 500m start will have a set of traps ten metres further back than the 490m distance, which we will still keep but for open-racing only although 475m will now be scrapped. “The Winter Derby will now be over the new 500m which feedback suggests will be popular with that longer run to the first bend, while our other big four-bend competitions, the Sussex Cup and Olympic, will stay over 515m which definitely has a place as it's such a spectacle." |
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Thanks for that HGS. So is it possible that the implementation of the 490m trip wasn’t as “well received” as we’d been led to believe?
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Whod've thunk it?
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