dean valentine interview part one with star sports well worth a watch

dr
did you watch part 2
take it from me that Cristian knows his stuff
just got in after a 14 hour shift same tomorrow.
sat having a glass of chilled Chablis.
thinking Ronnie where did it all go wrong.
regards
Ronnie.

the latest interview a 3 parter with brian chappell of justice for punters, well worth a watch imo

Excellent watch...Dean one of the few who has successfully adapted and stayed the trip as everything has moved online and away from the ring....found it compelling viewing and strikingly honest

the interviews are brilliant and good to get some honesty from people in the game rather than the gravy train talk,

Garry c
enjoyed all of them but sad to say the bookmaking game has gone.
I honestly think it is only going to get worse for the punter.
the sad thing is for years otc in the shop is going through the floor
yet nobody seems bothered.
sat to say if exes are going through the roof and turnover through the floor.
it will soon be last man out turn off the lights.
ps have a look at gvc shares over the last 3 months
have a good day
regards
Ronnie.

yea ronnie the shops are finished,its very sad what the games ended up like but what can you do? the tracking online of punters has  so hard to get a bet on,you can gamble but you are not allowed to win,very fair game dont you think

Excellent watch...Dean one of the few who has successfully adapted and stayed the trip as everything has moved online and away from the ring....found it compelling viewing and strikingly honest.

found it interesting, but to say that he adapted is a bit rich.
the man openly admitted that he only survives on inside info, which i think most people could that,
people who study the form, do the videos, can survived on their own merits,
the only trouble they have is getting on

starship • October 25, 2018 1:28 PM BST 
to say that he adapted is a bit rich.
the man openly admitted that he only survives on inside info, which i think most people could that

that's what I thought as well starship

middlemen are no good to me

he admits he gets help started from nil now a millionaire i think nobody would mind getting second hand info if they ended up a millionaire only problem you could get on back in the day its a bit different now

sounds like he's won the lottery to me

putting on for pro punters does not make you a pro punter, it makes you a putter on

I ain't seen it. So maybe bit critical. I,ve never backed any information I had from a kennel. Live n die by wot I think. Probably less n less people u,d give a dog to these days
to put 1 by for u. Wen I first started in kennels we used to swap a few over with paddy Hancox from Midlands. We were a gambling kennel. That's wer I first learnt to do a dog. U couldn't get away with it today. No dogs harmed. Best of everything.  Great times.

he don't put it all on from pro punters trust me they know a lot of well known owners who mark their card

To be fair some of the stuff u could use then u can't now.

I don't doubt it doc

its just that the video introduces him as a professional punter, which I haven't seen any evidence of

correct wonders the title wrong

he seems a nice guy who obviously has done really well for himself,even though hes not making his own informed decisions and opinions hes still betting his own money so i would still say hes a pro punter even if he needs information to be one,i would rather back my own opinion every day of the week but maybe hes not very good at it but if you can get your car marked and do really well then good luck to you,the interviewer is brilliant and a like the honesty.

was told at a very early age never turn down free money

he seems a nice guy ,
its funny how someone can form some sort of a opinion without knowing the person personally

its in the wording ,( he SEEMS a nice guy ) ,a bit like you dont seem a nice guy

you are not wrong

what difference does it make if he puts on for people. the man has made his money and must be cute.i know plenty of good judges who aint got to bob.good luck to the bloke.

1) I think Dean came across as up himself and lacking in humility and humour - probably wrong, media means little.

2) He is a pro punter. You can be the best dog judge on the planet by 20% ROI to the next man (probably Jesus Christ) but you are no pro punter unless you turnover hundreds of thousands and make big sums.

Its a bit like saying the guy who wins FIFA 2018 video game is better than Mourinho.

The proof is in the eating. The best pro punters are those that make the most money. Being the best `judge'
is completely meaningless.

exhibit 1.

Tommy is an amazing judge at Perry Bar. The whole track and anyone who has ever
met him respects his opinion above anyone else. The problem is he aint got an arsehhhle. His max bet has always been £100. He earns about 15k a year and still lives with his mum despite being 55years old.

Meanwhile his best mate Jimmy doesnt know the difference between a greyhound and a husky. But Tommy tells him all his selection every morning. Jimmy sets up loads of online accounts and has a little team who get on in the shops. He spends all day turning over money on Tommys selections. He makes £125k a year just purely through that. He has his own house, snorts whatever drug he wants, smokes any cigars and orders the top brasses in the vacinity.

Who is the best Pro punter out of Tommy and Jimmy?

I would say Tommy is possibly the `worst' pro punter on the planet.

i am pretty sure that scenario plays out all over the country

Surely this is the difference between pro punters and most punters, the pro must bet in high enough amounts to make a living and the Tommy punter is happy with his lot. Dean uses his information to the maximum and has no scruples about fleecing the books(not that i blame him). Guts to place big bets is the most important factor in pro betting, i would like the bookies to have the same attitde.

Captains example is a real good one, however all Tommy need to do is grow some and tell Jimmy unless you paying me commission fck off then he gets years wage paid without having to worry punting, Jimmy killed his cash cow otherwise.

Hangers on will cost you, need to be a horrible arrogant **** and kid the fck out of everyone thinking your doing no harm with the type of bets your placing yet doing serious long term damage and nobody can work out how...

not a team sport is it

Reminds me of what was said to Jerry Croxford when he was cracking it off in shop one day.
The manager said to him " I cant take your bets any more you are getting information"
Jerry reply " You C""T I AM THE INFORMATION"

Hope Jerry got some 'Drinks' and didn't just tell everyone just for an ego massage like most do

being told your a top judge etc etc from people who cant win off their own accord is not worth being 100 bags a year worse off is it...

i take my hat off to anybody who started with nothing ended up with a very nice house with wife and kids and a millionaire don't matter how he got the information he used it to the max i thought that would be anybody's aim when starting off in gambling for a living

Just watched them there, fack me that's a grim story about the young lad from his road

sad to say pf many more stories like that now because of fobts

Aye sure I see it every time I'm over in the UK the amount of money people drop in them, it would be the same over here if we had them, sure it's bad enough the amount people drop betting on every single virtual race that go off every 30 seconds over here. Sad really, yes there is personal responsibility but then the bookmakers have to take some responsibility as well.

Czechbet • October 29, 2018 8:18 AM GMT
Hangers on will cost you

good post czech, agree 100%

hangers on, middlemen...they have no intrinsic value

fair play anybody who makes money from bringing nothing to the table, that is a skill in itself

many say jerry is the greatest. I DO AGREE with the "whats the point of being a great judge and got nothing to show for it" why do so many people dislike jerry? is he a wrongen?

many say jerry is the greatest. I DO AGREE with the "whats the point of being a great judge and got nothing to show for it" why do so many people dislike jerry? is he a wrongen?

lol yep fair play to him. Sounds like a rag tag bunch that all possess certain strengths and qualities yet couldn't operate successfully as individuals ?


control and composure hes spot on tho, judge yourself on your bad days that's what separates the real winners

good judges are two a penny, if your a sh1t gambler with it then its a curse

i want to know how people can get on in this day and age if you have nobody getting on for you it's near impossible if you play on betfair you only getting the right price and if it's not you can only get on for small so these people who want 1,000 pound plus on and multi bets how can you get on by yourself ?????

i have nothing against anybody except bookmakers never seen the point of being jealous of people or hate on people bad karma

Jerry had a spell that lasted about 2 years were he was getting bundles. He had the complete package. Was a great Judge, flawless bet selection, and a great team getting on for him.
I was working alongside him every day and can honestly say I had never seen and will never see anything like it again. He was relentless and I hope he dont mind me disclosing this but he won around £70,000 over an 8- 10 day period and it wasnt from a flukey one off bet, it was from consistent daily winnings.

great numbers stowhound good luck to him,we deserve every penny we can get of the books a the will bleed a mug try for life and think nothing off it,although so hard to get a lump of of them now.

i heard a story about jerry, i have no idea if true, that he had a heart attack and people that he had helped and put bundles in there pockets didnt even help him out. he was out of work for months, asked the same people for a leg up till he got back on hes feet, they declared skint. im sure if i had followed  the bloke and he had put bundles in my pockets, well id have give him a leg up again. one of the blokes got 100s of thousands! lol as nemo said......with friends like him, who needs anemones! declared skint!!!!! and no one likes him! id have let the fat basta%d still with the wife if he put grands in my pockets!

actually surprised to hear its only that amount tbh Stow, thought add another zero the way people go on about Jerry.

Rock and roll punting everyone loves hearing "the ups and downs" "rags to riches to rags" and people can relate to it better than a boring balanced type who just wins all the time.

well if he was as great as they say bet, it was every week he was winning surely? you think just had a lucky run czech?

its sad to hear he's been ill and also bumped and not looked after if true etc etc

having a bit of talent alone is far from enough to make it over the long term, what is the point of having adoration of lowlifes and losers if at the end you have little to show for it?

yeah make ya right czech, if he was good as they say he would be sunning himself on a beach in aruba or taking hes family off to dubai 4 or 5 times a year. only the truly strong really stay the course in this game. he obv wasnt the real deal or he would of stood the test of time!

czechbet you dont halve book yourself as a judge dont you. you seem to think that your double clever and that nobody else knows **** all.jerry was a awesome judge and won chunks over a period of time.you seem to have a big chip on your shoulders and plenty of envy.

being a judge is the easy part as mentioned... so no i just 'book' myself as a relentless winner and complete package

far from envy its more a dig of sorts at all the b1lly b1g b0wlarks head down types that i dislike, am sure you fall in that category...

i agree czech. im sure you have been going for years now. where you bet at mate? i love hove. big track and no trouble. get some big fcs/tricasts there.

i do wish i was as clever as you czech. you do come across as a right horrible coont though.

and why have you got to dislike all the head down merchants. what the fock as it got to do with you.

that's the way its got to be, treat it like a sport me against the world here to win and take your dough not to make friends

you wouldnt be taking my dough mate. very simple reason you would be knowhere good enough. and i do mean a mile behind pal.

where do you bet czech? it aint like it was is it? i bet you have seen changes in your time with levels of profit. im not a pro like you, just small time. lol but i enjoy it.

exhibit A superjudge, what a head down statement you know fck all about me (bar i'm a clever arrogant ****) and the lengths i go to and standards i set...

i've pretty retired Harrymac 16 years at it Crayford, Sunderland been my best places

just going to see out my last accounts now winter has arrived... the extra variable's separate the men from the boys

super.......me and czech aint big time like you and we dont claim to be. im happy to nick £100 a week on here.....it pays for a family holiday at the end of the day.

why do people seem to be jealous about other people don't see the point it will just eat you away and make you bitter more to life then that

i dont usually talk like this but seeing its you czeck will make an exception. l would haved loved to played one on one against you at crayford you would have got taken to school and smashed to pieces.

you've made yourself look more silly than usual

42 years old retired and earn't everything i have in life punting greyhounds... and i'm much more arrogant and clever than even you could think possible

i need to get involved in small minded debate im a better judge than you yawn ffs going round in circles

yeah czech, i mainly play on here or my corraly or laddies accounts. good on ya.....you have lasted 16 years, you are someone i respect for that! x

well not many can say retired at 42! you the mannnnnnnnn! lol there will always be knockers czech......but when you know you know right mate! wink wink

as i said earier you think that your the only clever one about czech.i cant stand flash coonts like you.

im clearly the opposite of flash.. otherwise you would know me

no knockers at all Harry gl

CALL HES BLUFF CZECH.......TAKE HIM ON CRAY AND SUNDERS! SMASH THE SUPER JUDGE UP!

Bit rich someone calling themselves superjudge deriding someone else thinking their clever

Oct 30, 2018 -- 11:36AM, Czechbet wrote:

that's the way its got to be, treat it like a sport me against the world here to win and take your dough not to make friends

Spot on imvho

"The extra variables seperate the men from the boys"

Now now czech no more secrets