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When you talk about how far Hawk was behind and then managed to win it's as if you consider 6 lengths behind at Towcester is just the same as at Wimbledon.
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I would fancy a staying dog to pick up a front runner when 6L behind off the 2nd at Towcester (500m) than Wimbledon (480m) yes.
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Depends where it swings out from last bend
One of my old fav from Romford Do well here HEAD ITON TOM he have them stacked up like London buses Rd that 4th turn at towcester |
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Fairest track in country now, that's why they lost BAGS contract. Tyrur Shay, the fastest finisher, would have been knocked over by now at Wimbledon. Hove would have been second choice for derby but you cannot let a bookmaker owned track anywhere near the derby. |
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I'd fancy a finisher rd wimbo than towcester all day long
No **** can pass on inside imo |
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Why I mention tom
He'd boss it at towcester! |
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Captain carnage Joined: 29 Dec 06
Replies: 277 12 Jun 17 22:24 I would fancy a staying dog to pick up a front runner when 6L behind off the 2nd at Towcester (500m) than Wimbledon (480m) yes. Tell me how many dogs have won 6L behind off the 2nd bend in this competition so far? Better still how many have won turning in 4th place off the 2nd bend? |
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wots the score ?
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NO
Bends too long,Straights too short, S#itty old 2nd hand traps from Coventry. Final will be won by Faw Aled imo. |
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yes 5 as far as i can make out,closer than you would think |
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I vote YES. I have been pleasantly surprised with the track, not to say it could not be improved.Saw my first Derby in the early sixties, and remember some of the "demolition derbies" at the Don, this all seems so much smoother.
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didn't Calico Ranger come from last
to win in the last round? |
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Yes Calico Ranger did and that was it.
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Towcester itself yes,think they're really trying.
The track undecided tbh,but they should be given a chance,though to be fair,Wimbledon had it's moments. |
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I agree that they are trying but the track itself is just not good enough.
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The one thing that shines out from this track is the visible investment and the lack of decayed, empty and neglected terraces along the back straight. Some of these old tracks still operating look like a scene from the film Apocalypse Now.
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No,the race track is hopeless while everything else is outstanding.You cant polish a turd.
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hector you cant call the track a turd.....its solid investment in the sport....those coonts in the GRA......they are walking bags of the most filthy odious excrement you could find and a million miles from what is happening at towcester.....even though I agree something is amiss and if someone experienced at towcester reviewed all the derby races following the competition they could probably find out what that was and try and overcome it.....I would still at this point say YES for someone trying against the current tide.....also...personally I have won on every night bar one since playing the derby heats so its a bit of an oxymoron for me to say what I am saying....
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Winja for me punting has nothing to do with it.I referred to the race track as a turd because it is the most unfair track i have ever seen by miles .It has fundamental design issues which imo are making a mockery of the derby as a test.Everything else there appears top notch.
Fwiw im not pocket talking ,my sole bet has been 66/1 ew Razldazl Tierna fastest sect of first round ,which was posted on here in advance. |
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I don't remember too many coming from last to first at Wimbledon, other than the Hawk. What I do know is that up until the day White City closed many of the top trainers wouldn't risk their best dogs at Wimbledon and the finest example of that was Ballyregan Bob. Thirty years down the line and it was a "supertrack"! I don't think so.
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it is THE TOWCESTER DERBY there is not much else to Say ,the Race is specific to that track. Lets see who wins it ,Be interesting if JAYTEE were to win it
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First visit to Towcester last Saturday......the facilities are the best that dog racing has ever had....restaurant superb, full every Saturday night apparently (regardless of the Derby) and the staff all trying for their lives and excellent. Deserves to do well and succeed.
The track splits opinions, I do think the races slow down and the lead does not change hands at all on the bends...and the bends/cambering do seem too long in relation to the straights. Saying all that, it is not owned by a big firm and is trying to get dog racing to be sustainable into the 21st century...and I think all dog people should get behind it...it really is, as Ben Keith has said, "dog racings last chance" |
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Pmsfl at the The boys in studio reading tomorrows races ,I will be Highy suprised if they have 4 races anywhere Near right
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I'll tell you if I win tonight or not!
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Thumbs up. Facilities great. Big queue at the bar but loads of bat staff brought waiting time right down. Little villages here and there so not as isolated as some say. There was even a beer festival in a quaint local pub, busy. Re-the track. If a dog's good enough on the night, it can win. They say early-bird gaff but the antepost Derby favourite does it the hard way. Just a shame I wont be able to go for the final
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So that's 12 to 8 against, doubt that Wimbledon would have scored anything like as well. Any more yes votes?
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i remember white city think towcester not got derby after 3 years
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Greyhound Racing is meant to be an Exciting Spectacle , Tow racing is Simular to watching Paint dry ,the Dogs look Paceless
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Can Only Hope toon or Cp come up with some Money or Even monmore with money Spent on it .Tow should be Given another Year to try Ironing out The track Problems if that is Not done the Race needs to be Shifted .The position of the Traps is Bordering on Comical
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Even sheffields 362m three bend race traps were not as silly as towcestors 500 m ones
The other thing I never knew until after sky show Was how close the boxes are in the 500 poor mrs Cahill had no chance of putting any dogs in with another handler close by ![]() |
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casemoney 18 Jun 17 14:33
Greyhound Racing is meant to be an Exciting Spectacle , Tow racing is Simular to watching Paint dry ,the Dogs look Paceless Its a Bore Festival. Have to agree with this. I can't bring myself to pretend that it's the Derby and everything is ok really. |
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agree the bore derby
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Surprise surprise
Dave only reading out the positive rose tinted e mails Must be on a free 10 course derby meal on final night ![]() |
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i bet lord hesketh done over a million on towcester what chance of making a profit ZERO when he passes on im sure his family will pull the plug
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Someone Mailed in that it was SPINETINGLING
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There seems to be no consistency at the traps as at other tracks past and present .. Ragged starts most races .. leaves it hard to get a picture of how the races will be run .. for me genuine finishers gonna struggle there.. Nice amenities .. but not for me .. something lacking there .. track needs to be re-designed.. Nice try though
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You never know what will happen from one race to the next, and dogs just dont look impressive, fair play for them for having a go. lets hope they have a good look at major improvements
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yeah that is the only thing in there favour
"fair play for having a go" if that is the future of greyhound racing then i wont be telling my grandchildren about the great nights i had at the don. i wouldnt want them going to dine on prosecco and prawn salad watching geysers who clean out dog sh1t at 6 a m , live in squalour , led up dogs and get paid a pittance , have the sun in their eyes all night, watch from over 100 yards away and have to get a taxi home from the middle of nowhere. yeah fair play for them for having a go more like an old geyser who ain't got anything else to spend his money on |