rumour the greyhound derby

I think that would be a good option. Lets hope Ladbrokes pick up the mantle dropped by William Hills.

monmore is a fairer track then towcester thats for sure hope it does go that way middle of the country to!!

I would be surprised if Ladbrokes came up with the 300 bags required.

Why on earth people stick with this Sport i don't know,(well i do really) i've got 1 dog
left & i certainly won't ever be buying another, 30 years of buying dogs since
& i was 16 & i will quite easily walk away

the guidance & decline of the Sport is disgraceful & the people running it now
you wouldn't trust them as far as you could throw them.

To me this isn't Greyhound racing now, i get more of a buzz out of memories & prefer
to remember how things once was be it Hackney bags or Walthamstow/Haringey/Wembley or great dogs
like Curryhills Gara / Ard Knock / Farncombe Black etc

Monmore sounds Good Would be my 1st Choice

Toon would be 2nd

Towcester would not be in My list

HOVE a shocking ommision CASE. ??

   not the easiest to get too for everyone, but one of the fairest surely.

hove short run to the bend wouldn't help agree very fair track!

If Hove was considered as a permanent home for the Derby perhaps they could create a 480m circuit used only for the Derby which could introduce a second finishing line to allow the full length run to the bend. If the trip remained at 515 it removes the sprinters completely which would be a shame for those runners who are just short of the trip but have a leaders chance.

Wont happen at hove na chance

surely Perry Barr up there as it has a Feltham connection, wouldn't surprise at all anything for a dollar

too short a run to the bend at pbarr the same as hove 475

If it was to go to Hove there is no way it would be from the 475 boxes.It would be from the 515 traps with a shortened run in.

the way this game is going maybe the potential sponsors would like a 475 derby...I guess they'd also like it if hove could dig out those old crocks of sheit they used to start the 475s from

this place with the derby?

look at these going allowances,either the surface is a joke or the racing office is.

http://www.gbgb.org.uk/resultsMeeting.aspx?id=142794

the reason why hove won't get the derby is location and the only way they could get it is if someone put up 150,000 to sponsor the event at the track

monmore would need re-laying to be a runner for me
however as crayford was recently done that isn't out of the question I guess especially if lads become a prominent sponsor

end of june at hove with the holiday crowd and the gay community of hove should pack the place out lol

Would keep some of us away mdm

Hove would have to do something it distance.. 515m too far....475m too short a run to the bend imo

Plenty of tracks will want it...guaranteed crowd

Why would 475m be too short?

GBGB have Rights GRA finnish from one crooked set of Cxnts to another

Not many will be able to come up with the 300 bags required.

I am sure Stephen Rea say he owns the right to the Greyhound Derby' name?

He says he will give it to the track he thinks most appropriate...I seem to remember this?

I don't know how much money the track would be expected to come up with?

Why not RPGTV headline the sponsorship with all those bookmakers who sponsor the show (including betfair) paying an equal contribution. Broadcast all rounds on the channel, have the final at 10pm like it should have always remained and its up to the sponsors to take a bet to recover the sponsorship costs. Surely it cant be that difficult.

Apologies to ebulgery as I read his post wrong.
Missed the "run to the bend" part in the 475m trip.

I guessed that Sparrow

Without the Stow what track can do 475?

Possibly Belle Vue can squeeze out another 5 metres, and it is GRA, too far North for me

I think Monmore must come into it, central, a modern track, very fast 480

Monmore is perfect.

be honest theres only 2 tracks towcester and hove but if coventry was about i would make it odds on dont know why all the major bookmakers  dont buy coventry all the profit its makes all year goes to retired greyhound homes all round the country and they can have the greyhound derby there forever

they haven't bought it because they are businesses and interested in 1 thing only...making money

HF poured fortunes into that stadium to get it up and running, there just simply isn't the money or interest in greyhound racing to justify it...sad but true

Oct 16, 2016 -- 7:35AM, wondersobright wrote:

they haven't bought it because they are businesses and interested in 1 thing only...making moneyHF poured fortunes into that stadium to get it up and running, there just simply isn't the money or interest in greyhound racing to justify it...sad but true

yes, location is everything, Monmore is central, good public transport - Trains less than five minute bus ride,also it is a city location, and that is where greyhound racing should concentrate its interests.

Monmore or Newcastle  Has to be a Bookie Track ,Unless tow can get a Sponsor for a 1/4 million ,Only Other hope a billionaire Buys Cov 

People Keep going on About Location where are most of the Dogs Kept .Shirley there is a Higher Percentage of Dogs in the Midlands than anywhere else ? And the Irish if it were Newcastle probably as quick if not Quicker than down Sarf Not so sure of this Location Buisness as for fans no shortage of dog people up north ,,,

i would not put a **** cat round newcastle trouble on the first bend nearly every race

theres trouble on the first bend at every track ,thats how you earn your money betting

I'm afraid it's going to be Towcester guys.

What a major blow to the sport

irish are you content with the stats that a 500 derby at towcester is fair enough?? 480 would be a disaster imo

extremely early days with that trip I know

Unlikely to attract as many irish runners that far out !

All this talk of Towcester, Newcastle and Hove. What's wrong with Sheffield or Belle Vue, tbh?

Feltham has stated it will not be run at GRA TRACK

Newcastle wont get it max capacity now under 2000,Towcester will get it.

If Towcestor gets it will be a total disaster

Rubbish racing

Betting turnover will drop drastically compared with Wimbledon

Also noticed Towcestor camera work seems much more zoomed in now so you can't see the back dogs much

Must be trying for a bags contract again

Sheffield has very short straits I  hold no opinion on Vue whats their capacity ?

Wales would know. Think it's similar design to Wimbledon (both GRA). Far side Chieftain stand long since knocked down but large restaurant and excellent view from ample-sized grandstand. Loads of room outside going right round to first bend. Downstairs bar can cater for quite a lot and outside bar, too

You can't possibly consider giving it to a GRA track. We need to know that there's half a chance of the stadium being there in a year or two.

Belle Vue has a capacity of 4,100 but the bookmakers can only accommodate about 10 decent punters.

BV...oaks/laurels last year ground was an utter disgrace, wide runners forget it, decent run to the bend a massive +ve but many many better tracks about imo

pretty irrelevant though as GRA tracks have already been ruled out by the GRA and in any case it would be morally sickening to hold the derby at another track in which those lowlife counts are involved

It was an utter disgrace
Was treated disgracefully by city centre bookies
The track was empty , chapman was prancing about on empty terraces
The glenamaddy gang were stuck at knock airport and the food was poor
No way this year

Dont know why so much doom and gloom on here. Greyhound racing has surely seen the biggest decline of any sport in the UK over the last 30 years but the Derby switch offers some hope.

I think a Derby at a `new' track will be a big boost for the sport. Wimbledon has been a complete and utter ****e since moved to the other side. The sport had little chance to progress whilst its flagship competition was held there.

There is now a chance for the sports showpiece to be at a track with up-to-date facilities, new sponsors, better marketing, innovations, bigger crowds etc Something on and off the sand the sport can be proud of.

I believe the Derby should be run over 500m at Hove or Towcester.

I have no doubt whatsoever that for the good of the sport Towcester should get the Derby. Their business
plan is based on freeing themselves from bookie control; They are completely open with their trainers; gambles are not looked upon as the plague; everything about the place shouts class; they invest in their product; they attract exellence in trainers; viewing and facilities are excellent; the setting beautiful but still atmospheric and the lighting outstanding. The only negative is the shape of the track but their has been no decernable bias over the last 2/3 months with regards to traps and they will continue to tinker.

From a personal point of view I would love it to go to Hove. I can walk their from my pit! Move the winning line back 15 metres and happy days. It is a very similar distance to travel from the north as Wimbledon. It is the best place in the UK for a weekend/night out. The weather is generally decent in the summer. The facilities are decent and would be upgraded if it got the Derby.

I think Monmore is is just too small to accommodate big crowds and their track bias' are an embarrassment.

I would love the derby at Hove but I am convinced for the good of the sport it must go to Towcester. However, the GBGB/greyhound racing is funded almost exclusively through the big bookmaker chains and I cant see them giving Towcester the chance to show what could be done with the sport.

great post captain

Hove 500 m with line moved back 15 m would work

Though I am rubbish at picking winners at hove for some reason

You post on Towcestor though misses the massive problems with the track

Far toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo wide

And straights far tooooooooooooooooooooooooo short

Dig the track up and start again

Not sure if corals that bothered about having the derby though too must hassle

Just prefer to stage A10 hangers and plodders races for BAGS cannon fodder racing

Patrick has diva had any litters yet of pups

If so how many age etc plz?

Monmore is more susceptible to track maintenance than wimbledon ever was. Check out today's bias

Cant have it at hove people go on about hove but its not for me and towcester unless they do something about the bends no way they should have the derby

Oct 21, 2016 -- 10:43AM, irishone wrote:

Monmore is more susceptible to track maintenance than wimbledon ever was. Check out today's bias

major stumbling block irish, however if monmore was re-laid and the new surface was decent then monmore 480 would be a runner