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So , what exactly has Jim done wrong ? From the C@ral statement , it would appear they are accusing him of something sinister . It would be interesting to know , over the last 9 months , what percentage of his dogs priced at 2-1 or less have been beat , ie Fav's . No whinging from bookies on those occasions ?
I don't have this data , does anyone on here ? |
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will send you PM in next half hour fbs
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Coral no problems with the Nailed or Lame Type of Competitor
 There are Dogs running at every track that should not be on the Card Shirley that is Bordering on Cruelty ? |
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An absolute fkin disgrace whats happened to JR.
All of the enquiries involve unexposed youngsters...a trainer does his job well and some fkin bluffer responsible for the prices gets to keep his....what an absolute farce of a situation....and those fkers taking the moral high ground on here and feeling quite smug about it all after doing their dough saturday wanna remember that their stake saturday was being funded by one of the JR punts the week before where they were sucking theirselves off for being so clever spotting borna time was an accident waiting to happen in the grade when a fkim monkey could have seen it (yet still tippex and his team missed it) |
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What is a rommers trainer to do....an owner walks into maxine lockes sunday morning and says "I have 3k to spend on a dog for romford" and the fella loves a thick punt are they are to tell him to go elsewhere?....ffs is that what we have come too?
Its an absolute ridiculous precedent to have set....We've all known long enough it'stan unwritten rule you cant bet a winner....is an owner now supposed to be afraid to have a bet cos his trainer will lose his job if he happens to cop....turn the fkin lights off on the game if so imo |
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its a joke whats happening here and in greyhound racing in general,without the betting the sport just would not interest most people as you need the gambling to make it exciting unless you own a dog.but now you are not allowed to win money or you are given a red card,its bad enough everybody is getting their acccounts closed with the bookies but now people are losing jobs ,its a disgrace
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It is the cancer of the bags organisation to blame they now control every part of greyhound racing,they are responsible for the 80% decline in Attendancies over the past 20 years slowly eroding the sport for gain,by saturating the public in betting shops,they terrorise,trainers and gutless promoters who keep 75% of bags revenue,The GTA if they have any guts should organise a full strike and show they cannot suffer bags Pol Pot attitude to the greyhound fraternity,Get rid Of Tom Kelly from the GBGB because his appointment is like putting Jack the Ripper in a nurses home he is a two faced back stabbing pariah who has helped with the demise of greyhound racing I know I worked in and loved the sport for 40 years and awarded an MBE for it,I know what is wrong with the sport and it will be finished in the next ten years if the greyhound public do not act.
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If and when I can find a publisher to produce my auto biography during my 40 years in greyhound racing at all management levels I will blow the lid on BAGS procedures and the input by them in dismantling the. greyhound racing industry as a sport ,The ONLY way to save greyhound s complete demise is to reform from top to bottom the way it is run,Owners and Trainers deserve a better deal than what they are getting now which is being bullied,frightened,lives and income ruined and especially the dedication restored by all those genuine lovers and people who love and work in the sport that I and millions love not for money but for pleasure,the GBGB have allowed BAGS to slowly dismantle the social fabric of this sport and they will succeed in destroying the sport forever within ten years.
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I notice the last poster mentions the GTA and requesting their support. But would an organisation who voted to expel Jim Reynolds from his position as chairman in 2007 give him their support?
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I just shake me head at it all, the game we all enjoy and love is dying a slow death because of the big firmed owned tracks, they want it every which way and because of the incompetence of their compilers/traders in the lack of putting in some time and effort on big bonus'/salaries and chucking down the racing post tissue dogs/pups with improvement or running well without winning getting punted from 3/1 to 5/4 as poss in one of these cases are not gambles but just wrong prices in the first instance and the price ending up at that dogs proper chance/% of winning that particular race. I dont know the whole story but i think a few here will have been made scape goats and examples been made of. Lord help us.
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lots of sense spoken on here and its very depressing...
in a nutshell what is the point of spending money on buying a greyhound to race, putting it with a trainer who is scared to let it win and you cant get a proper bet on it anyway... thus is how they are killing the game and they know it only the hardcore can find half a way round it!  its almost like lets shut the industry down completely, close all the tracks and start again fresh in the right hands its still a brilliant sport and betting product... you cant polish a turd, they don't have the heart or brains to improve the situation 100% |
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I am sure all of Jims fellow Romford trainers will support him by adopting the appropriate action in the circumstances
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THERE ARE SOME TRAINERS WHO HAVE BEEN UP BEFORE THE STEWARDS MORE TIMES AND ARE STILL ALLOWED TO TRAIN DOGS, WHEN I TRAINED MY DOGS I KNEW WHEN I COULD HAVE A BET AS I DID'NT KNOW IF THOSE TRAINERS WERE TRYING WITH THEIR DOGS, MY DOG BEAT A DOG ONE WEEK AND THE NEXT GOT BEAT BY THE SAME DOG CLOCKING AN OPEN TIME IN AN A7, THEY CALLED AN ENQUIRY AND HE GOT FIND £100 SOME JUSTICE! IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHO YOU ARE.
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Back in the days before the over saturation of meetings a dog with this profile ie one very good Irish run but some ordinary trials would probably have been made to trial again and show something in line with its Irish form. However nowadays the desperate need for dogs to get on the card asap means this type of thing is likely to happen. Or maybe whoever graded this dog on had no idea of the strength of its Irish card and put it in way below its ability,none of which is Jim Reynolds fault and yet its he who pays the price and loses his contract
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Spot on, it's not the trainers fault that whoever graded the dog and done up the card totally ignored what he had done over here, the trainer should not be punished and not expected not to punish their laziness.
It is like Allen Wizard who in September had beaten Tyrur Van Gaal, Slippery Snowy, Highview Premier, Barefoot Artist, Jaytee Valencia etc...... on route to the Derby Plate final in which he went off a 3/1 shot finishing behind Laughil Duke. Fast forward to December and he is running in an A6 at Henlow, seriously you cannot make that up |
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There was once a time when decisions like this were made by the Greyhound Racing Authorities, rather than a Bookmaker. Another example, if one was needed, as to who appears to control Greyhound Racing in this country.
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theres only one best tonic • July 26, 2016 1:15 PM BST
Back in the days before the over saturation of meetings a dog with this profile ie one very good Irish run but some ordinary trials would probably have been made to trial again and show something in line with its Irish form. However nowadays the desperate need for dogs to get on the card asap means this type of thing is likely to happen. Or maybe whoever graded this dog on had no idea of the strength of its Irish card and put it in way below its ability,none of which is Jim Reynolds fault and yet its he who pays the price and loses his contract that is exactly what it is, 100% spot on |
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I wonder how long it will be until the young romford grader will be back on rpgtv and i wonder if the emails sent in regarding this thread will be discussed.
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yep well said tonic
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PF on that night
Three of sir Eric were hammered in price and all them hacked up, though the bookie that I think got bashed ain't own any greyhound tracks It's a good job henlow ain't got a bags contract |
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26 Jul 16 07:41 Joined: 31 Dec 11 | Topic/replies: 2 | Blogger: mickwheblembe's blog interesting an ex racing manager think you should easily find someone to publish |
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If Jim Reynolds had previously been warned there must be a pattern here?
It has happened again so he has been dismissed. I wonder how Jim Reynolds sees this, and what his version of this is? He has lost a good contract which has serious repercussions for him. I am wondering what exactly has been going on here. Puppies do improve off trials, it is when they find chunks of time is the problem , especially if betting patterns are involved. I don't know the truth of this myself either way at the moment? I would be interested to know the truth |
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http://www.igb.ie/results/greyhound-search/greyhound-details/?gid=E68ACE55-1120-49FC-A2B9-0BDE43D2E694 (his debut)
http://www.greyhound-data.com/d?page=stadia&stadiummode=5&land=ie&st=12016&year=2016&distance=302&x=5&y=4 http://www.igb.ie/results/greyhound-search/greyhound-details/?gid=2C7F409F-3B85-4FB3-B0C0-9F0768879E77 (I spot quicker than him) Did the racing manager or whoever was grading this dog not take any of this into account? The answer is clearly no so why did they not? The other example I put up a dog going off 3/1 to win the Derby Plate gets put in an A6 3 months later. Just because said racing managers don't have the time or are lazy bollox's means the trainer / owners should not take advantage of a lenient grade? The simple fact is supposedly the took a few quid off the bookmakers and they're spitting the dummy out, had the dog been beaten a short head in the same time it's a million he would have got the bullet. |
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i feel sorry for the girls who work at the kennel they do everything right treat the dogs as their own and because these pups have improved over the period of time they may lose their jobs
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their is a running joke between a few of us that when the asst racing manager does the card a certain trainer seems to get a few winners
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If this is a one off it would be hard..
The pup has improved .74 in four days that is over 9 lengths....if I was punter on that race I might wonder a bit? But it is not impossible. If this is linked to previous with the same betting patterns then well?????????????????????????????????????? At BAGS tracks trainers have to obey the rules. Bookmakers don't operate a democracy. I would like to see what JR has to say.... |
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As far as Borna Time goes the dog had been threatening to do what it did on the 14th, it had been running well with dogs pacing up inside of it and finding trouble when trying to go mad down the back on a few occasions and the 3/1 about it the day it won was more than fair and it wouldn't of been to anyone's surprise (other than the boys putting up the 3/1) that it was bet into near enough a 50% chance of winning the race, it got a level break with the two inside it and it took off as previously suggested that it would, 1 held the pack up off the 2nd bend and the winning distance was well over exaggerated. I hope this dog in this particular race wasn't a major factor in what went on because if it is its shambolic to say the very least, you pay peanuts you get monkeys end of.
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If this is linked to previous with the same betting patterns then well??????????????????????????????????????
well fkin what?? if they have had the same situation with a dog that's in a grade it's better than (due to the grader being sh1te at his job) or overpriced (due to clueless sacks of sh1t pricing it) what's the problem, ffs the game is all about getting an edge without breaking the rules yet you annoy the bookmakers and get sacked. How is Mr.Simpson getting on at Romford? Facks sake his dogs do be at times drunker than myself and Patrick Starr when we visit Rommers |
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I am absolutely amazed at those defending this decision and can only conclude they've bet a loser in this or other races a Reynolds runner has won when the dog has took a step forward and are holding it against him
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if i was a trainer at romford i would be worried if people started to bet my dogs outside in the betting shops and god forbid they were put on in a corals shop
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Muppet Show
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pf even sherlock holmes could not find out how mr simpson got the job at romford
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if a certain trainer gets the job at romford it will be the biggest fit up job ever done in greyhound racing
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exactly right doc, other trainers without even a clue could end up sacked because someone else punted their runners?
how are trainers supposed to keep owners happy these days, "your dogs fit and well but do me a favour don't bet it"... ffs |
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Lot of bowlox here... he was at it believe me ! ...and to be hoñest cant blame the fellah
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With all due respect I would rather believe what Woody posts than a clueless f*ckwit like yourself
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Romford should introduce a minimum of ten trials for each greyhound to prevent things like this happening in the future
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You dont need to be at it the way the tins of beans are priced up - its like buy one get two free.
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no doubt the dog wasn't fully off in his qualifying trials over there, as i already said why would you show your hand in qualifying trials, i'd change trainer if he had my dog off for it's life in qualifying
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