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vindaloo
25 Jul 16 11:11
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this true? been sacked from rom

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By:
p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y
When: 25 Jul 16 11:16
yes
By:
vindaloo
When: 25 Jul 16 11:23
games gone mad
By:
starship
When: 25 Jul 16 11:39
plenty of time finding of trials.
think there was a gamble outside on saturday night.....dog found .80 spots off trials

the straw that broke the reynolds back
By:
dr . atkins
When: 25 Jul 16 11:40
how do you know there was a gamble outside sat night starship
By:
p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y
When: 25 Jul 16 11:41
plenty of time finding of trials.
think there was a gamble outside on saturday night.....dog found .80 spots off trials



got the chop for good training so Laugh
By:
dr . atkins
When: 25 Jul 16 11:42
that's the trouble pf you do your pups right and they find time which all pups should do if you do them right but you get the sack for doing your job
By:
p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y
When: 25 Jul 16 11:44
lunacy
By:
deansthemann
When: 25 Jul 16 11:46
absolutely beyond ridiculous
By:
Stow_judge
When: 25 Jul 16 11:49
This is what happens when the bookmakers have a vice like grip of our sport.
By:
dr . atkins
When: 25 Jul 16 11:49
you cant get more than 100 pound with any bookmaker at romford so where are these gambles if the high st bookmakers make a rick and a dog is punted will trainers get the sack because this is the way romford are going
By:
starship
When: 25 Jul 16 11:53
dr aitkins
playing devils advocate.
you fancy a dog, make it a good bet, there a trial dog in the race and finds .60 off its trials, it beats you, your dog comes second,
how would u feel
By:
garryc
When: 25 Jul 16 11:54
what do they expect pups to do ,they are going to come on bundles with each race ,but because its been bet hes committed some sort of crime,you see pups every day losing 8 to 10 length in running which dont win but the trainer wont get sacked because it never won,the game is totally one sided.if punters win somebody pays because the bookmakers are not allowed to lose in the long term,
By:
starship
When: 25 Jul 16 11:56
do all pups come on bundles?
By:
p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y
When: 25 Jul 16 11:58
do all pups come on bundles?


they should
By:
garryc
When: 25 Jul 16 11:59
not all but the majority will come on if its half decent breeding
By:
wondersobright
When: 25 Jul 16 11:59
biggest problem in greyhound racing ALL THE DECISION MAKERS ARE FKIN WHANKERS
By:
dr . atkins
When: 25 Jul 16 12:00
starship if you do them right all pups should come on jimmy is one of the best doing pups in the country that's my opinion
By:
garryc
When: 25 Jul 16 12:04
another thing is if he was going to do a job on his pup to win he would do it in a race with a betfair market with some liquidity in it not the sat night with  £400 pound matched  in the race, as you will struggle to get much on with the bookies
By:
starship
When: 25 Jul 16 12:07
i believe u are missing the piont.
when u have a bet, u expect all dogs to run on their merits, when a dog finds times off a trial and is gambles and wins,
where does that leave the honest punter doing the form and vids....ie me
as for the dog who won the other thursday....borna time, the dog had ran well the previous two races, and the video watchers would have spotted that one,
that coral went up 7/2 in the early prices, there is only one person reponsible for that and that is the odds complier
By:
wondersobright
When: 25 Jul 16 12:07
doc will know more but I get the impression it is based on more than 1 race but regardless it is a fkin disgrace

I'm sure the gravy brigade on RPTV will give romford a hard time over it Wink
By:
dr . atkins
When: 25 Jul 16 12:08
a pup ran the other week at romford anyone that does videos would have seen if this pup got any kind of run it would win now corals ring up a person to see if he wants any bets on there early prices before they put them out in there shop this person bet this pup but corals still went 10t30 which was a major rick so people like me and other video watchers bet the dog now corals with the hump rang romford to say there are irregular betting patterns on this race now the pup who's been staying on very strong lead at the first bend and won well like he should have done so now the trainer gets into trouble because corals went 10t30 a 2t1 chance who's fault is that
By:
starship
When: 25 Jul 16 12:09
do all pups come on bundles?


they should

so all the dogs who do a grading time and spends all their lives in a8s, what about those
By:
dr . atkins
When: 25 Jul 16 12:12
starship what dog was gambled sat night ? yes one of jimmys pups found 70 spots first time up but were was this gamble ?
By:
dr . atkins
When: 25 Jul 16 12:13
so what is more wrong a pup finding time or a trainer who knocks hes dogs over
By:
wondersobright
When: 25 Jul 16 12:13
danny boy cant price a tin of beans then claims irregular betting patterns Laugh you fkin couldn't make it up
By:
dr . atkins
When: 25 Jul 16 12:15
how many pups find bundles of time over the year at romford first time out very few because the way peter grades them so if i bet a dog in a race and a pup wins and finds time i will wipe my mouth and carry on
By:
p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y
When: 25 Jul 16 12:15
starship get a grip ffs, what clown who owns / trains their dog wants their hand shown in qualifying trials?

you want the pup fully wound up and running for his life in qualifying trials

as for the dog in question he had hacked up on debut at Longford over 330y by 10.5L in a decent time for a debutant, if you look at what some of those who clocked around the same time as him done at other tracks since it would not have been that hard to deduce the dog was capable of doing better than 25 dead for Romford's 400m
By:
garryc
When: 25 Jul 16 12:17
starship ,i think you have missed the point,we are not talking about a 3 year old dog thats racing every week,it a young pup with a trainer who is great bringing on young pups ,its going to find a lot of time its just a matter of when ,unfortunately for the trainer it improved straight away which is no fault of his
By:
dr . atkins
When: 25 Jul 16 12:18
so mr gaskin as got another positive now how many as this trainer had lately now is this worse than a pup finding time ?
By:
Stow_judge
When: 25 Jul 16 12:20
With the impending Joes/Lads merger, there will be two less tracks a trainer can go to, should they lose their position.
Where next for Jim? There aren't too many local options! Sittingbourne or Towcester perhaps?
By:
Stow_judge
When: 25 Jul 16 12:21
Depends whether the positive can be argued as coming from feeding, perhaps.
By:
dr . atkins
When: 25 Jul 16 12:22
so will romford get other jim simpson into romford who cant tell one end of a dog to another
By:
vindaloo
When: 25 Jul 16 12:23
so it just sounds like corals have spat the dummy out and someone has had to take the hit and Jim has fell on his sword. disgrace
By:
Stow_judge
When: 25 Jul 16 12:23
How does one know the difference between an improving pup and one that has been stopped in it's trials?

It's when the improvement appears alongside a gamble, I guess.
By:
starship
When: 25 Jul 16 12:24
i understand what u r saying,
but i do get annoyed when a trial dog, first time up wins and finds time and my bet comes second.
not all trials dogs improves, i would acknowledge that if the dog has form in ireland or elsewhere should be taken into account.
but a unraced pup, how am i suppose to know,
not all pups improve
By:
hectoratoratora
When: 25 Jul 16 12:24
The fact that the pup found 70 spots in 4 days off a solo trial over 400m imo to me suggests cheating not training.Its ok to a have a bit in hand off trials but its not on to take the piss.
By:
wondersobright
When: 25 Jul 16 12:24

Jul 25, 2016 -- 12:23PM, vindaloo wrote:


so it just sounds like corals have spat the dummy out and someone has had to take the hit and Jim has fell on his sword. disgrace


correct

By:
starship
When: 25 Jul 16 12:25
How does one know the difference between an improving pup and one that has been stopped in it's trials?

It's when the improvement appears alongside a gamble, I guess.

dave, i could not have out put it better myself.....well said
By:
dr . atkins
When: 25 Jul 16 12:25
what makes laugh with corals they have to ring someone who goes romford and is a very good judge to let him have first go at the prices before they will price up on the bags meetings
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