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lanza
26 Feb 16 16:43
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Derby antepost prices so much better elsewhere.

Only 92 dogs here...compared with 248 elsewhere.
Better prices on about 75 off those 92 dogs with 10 about the same.

Why are you guys still betting here??  ok its easier...  and you might not have another exchange account?  but fook me... the prices here are terrible.

ok...rant over... lol.... please carry on...
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Report lanza April 21, 2016 10:22 PM BST
that looked a great run!!  by awesome... going down the back...woosh.   any time??  went past some good dogs like they were standing still.   I TAKE IT BACK... LOL  (OFF to bet awesome)  lol
Report woodmanchester April 21, 2016 10:42 PM BST
7 out of 8 with Ballymac Darragh to go. Sorted these Union Jack bets! Laugh
Report woodmanchester April 21, 2016 10:43 PM BST
Believe Domino quicker, Lanza. Think looked better coz Mossjoe lost action a bit
Report irishone April 22, 2016 12:29 AM BST
Mossjoe lost action a bit


PMSL LaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report woodmanchester April 23, 2016 11:12 AM BST
Agree with PF. Apart from about the top dozen, the rest hardly superstar quality. Best hopes for me Roddick, Jaytee Jet, Eden, Panda and Brogan. Would be very happy with any of those, but biggest payout Domino
Report woodmanchester April 23, 2016 6:58 PM BST
Still excited, though. It is the Derby, after all!
Report woodmanchester April 24, 2016 8:14 PM BST
75 entries so far, closes Tuesday. They estimated a total of 210 runners
Report FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK April 24, 2016 8:21 PM BST
Was there any Derby trial stakes
Away from Wimbledon this year ????
Report FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK April 24, 2016 8:24 PM BST
Mossjoe lost action a bit


PMSL LaughLaughLaughLaugh

Was talking to someone about that
Race today , couldn't get my head rd why mossjoe move off big time

got told two words SHORT HARE
Report woodmanchester April 24, 2016 8:29 PM BST
Good point, Fatty. All those free chances of entry lost
Report FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK April 24, 2016 8:38 PM BST
Part of the Derby build up wasn't it
Few trial stakes fee entire all that over country

But than again we've had plenty of them where it matters !

There big trial session Tuesday morning than ?
Report woodmanchester April 24, 2016 8:53 PM BST
Where it matters yes, but a long way to travel not for the Derby itself. Right way to do it giving a dog a look but don't think they should have scrapped the trial stakes elsewhere
Report irishone April 25, 2016 7:29 AM BST
Instead of pumping your mickeys why don't ye lads  do a bit of research and look at the last ten winners of the derby ? Only two of them took part in these derby trial stakes , Salad Dodger was the last .
How the feck is that the right way to do it ? Crazy
Report FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK April 25, 2016 10:41 AM BST
You giving me advice Irish ??
Report hunglikeadonkey April 25, 2016 11:26 AM BST
trials tues and weds morning fattie
Report hunglikeadonkey April 25, 2016 11:27 AM BST
Mossjoe lost action a bit


PMSL LaughLaughLaughLaugh

Was talking to someone about that
Race today , couldn't get my head rd why mossjoe move off big time

got told two words SHORT HARE


The trials I went to last Weds the hare driving is worse than last year. The hare is so short off the second bend I will try and get a vid/pic tomorrow
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y April 25, 2016 11:36 AM BST
can somebody please explain to me when entries close at noon tomorrow when they have another trial session Wednesday and no doubt trial stakes on Thursday night, why can't they close Friday noon or even Saturday noon seen as the draw is not until Sunday??
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y April 25, 2016 11:37 AM BST
*why entries close*
Report hunglikeadonkey April 25, 2016 12:00 PM BST
literally no idea PF, its always been Weds, last session of trials and the entries close with no further trial stakes, I know its an earlier Derby this year but everyone has known that for 11 months.

Will be quite a few withdrawals I expect.
Report FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK April 25, 2016 12:53 PM BST
Brains trust at hq
Have the trials than trainers can make up there mind
Entries in Tuesday doesn't make sense !!
That's why I put out here I knew the entries where Tuesday but there allways
Big Wednesday trial session !!

Cheers for the info hang
Report hunglikeadonkey April 25, 2016 2:01 PM BST
Fairly sure you get your money back up until the draw of the first round, maybe even up until the first round runs so I can see a few fancying their £250 back...
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y April 25, 2016 3:08 PM BST
Crokers Champ trials tomorrow Shocked
Report FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK April 25, 2016 4:04 PM BST
He came into it last year not 100%
Was knock out pretty lucky too can recall

http://youtu.be/gyhcv2X31Ro
Report FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK April 25, 2016 4:06 PM BST
was fair few of us  eoin large next rd
Down he went Sad
Report castledale April 25, 2016 8:50 PM BST
you get your money back if you withdraw before the draw on Sunday. If your name goes in the hat then you don't get your money back even if you don't make the first round - we had it happen to us about 5 year ago when we entered a bitch and she then broke in season 4 days before the first round but 3 days after the draw - no refund.
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y April 26, 2016 7:12 PM BST
239 entries
Report woodmanchester April 27, 2016 10:13 AM BST
Although he won the Juvenile, Ramsey too reliant on rails needed T1 every round, while Mossjoe not suited to Wimbledon. Interesting to see Kelly due to come down
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y April 27, 2016 10:20 AM BST
It's an astonishing decision not to enter Ramsey in my opinion, won 3 from 5 at Wimbledon (win Juvenile and made Puppy Derby final) granted his three wins where from trap 1

I am not trying to tell the Draper's where to run their dog (they've forgotten more than I will ever know) but the dog is going to be rails dependent wherever he goes and at least we know he does run Wimbledon well.

Where does he go next? In all comps he will have the same problem, run on one offs and hope you get a favourable draw ??

I'm amazed to be honest big it's their dog (and Perer Band) and they're entitled to run where they wish.
Report wondersobright April 27, 2016 10:28 AM BST
I get the argument that he is rails dependant and given that the derby is rails heavy he is likely to get a bad draw at some point but how many other dogs could you say the same about?? droopys buick for 1...don't see them throwing the toys out of the pram

especially with the prize money better distributed now it is an absolutely bonkers decision to miss the derby, however it is the owner's right
Report woodmanchester April 27, 2016 12:44 PM BST
Pagan Swallow tribute with the trial stakes tomorrow night. None of my antepost dogs running, but think Ballymac Shirley/Toolmaker Scot and Southfield Jock/Droopys Latina interesting clashes. Will be keeping an eye on Millwards Whitey, Aimnfire and Roswell Iceman. Badabing caught my eye finishing very well recently, but not sure if he'll catch Clondoty Alex
Report Addy_D April 27, 2016 12:49 PM BST
surprising to say the least PF maybe they didnt have the 300 quid Laugh

and woody no one gives a fcuk about your 400/1 domino storm or any other of your antepost bets so just as well none of them are running tomorrow CrazyLaugh
Report woodmanchester April 27, 2016 1:02 PM BST
Maybe no one gives a fcuk about my antepost bets, but just keeping you informed! LaughWink
Report TheGoddess April 27, 2016 1:41 PM BST
How long does it take to get 239 dogs in to a market FFS Angry
Report lanza April 27, 2016 2:27 PM BST
.Laugh
Report castledale April 27, 2016 6:45 PM BST
Right Betfair.
So you've added the 238 (although its now 234) dogs.
Any chance you could now press the unsuspend button.
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y April 27, 2016 7:46 PM BST
Can the 2 wankbag bookmakers (yes that's you 888 and 32red) please remove the dogs not entered in the Derby from your markets so oddschecker does not look a fkin mess!!
Report backatrier April 28, 2016 8:39 AM BST
lads can you help on this?
on the antepost derby market on here does my P & L include settled bets on dogs that were not entered?

confused as the matched bets totals & settled bets totals dont add up to the numbers I can see
Report FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK April 28, 2016 9:12 AM BST
Entered the ring for the 3rd time
Paradise Maverick 150ew
Let's see if he can go one step further this year
Report wondersobright April 28, 2016 12:30 PM BST
Jonathan Kay ‏@jkgreyhounds  · 37m37 minutes ago 
Forest Twilight and Sawn Off Shotgun out of Derby. Shaneboy Doc doubtful - misses 8.02 at Wimbledon tonight, T2 vacant.


shame to see a top bitch out of the comp Sad I could hear lanza's sigh of relief from up here in north yorks so god knows how loud it was
Report lanza April 28, 2016 1:56 PM BST
Just had nice pm off the owner.

Personlly, good for the heart but poor for the comp.   Still got a few bitches i want beat tho. Devil but they dont come close to what twilight was taking out.  No loud celebration or fist pump, just a pencil line through another name.

Sometimes its better to be lucky than good.
Report Addy_D April 28, 2016 2:12 PM BST
backatrier 28 Apr 16 08:39 Joined: 09 Feb 02 | Topic/replies: 26 | Blogger: backatrier's blog
lads can you help on this?
on the antepost derby market on here does my P & L include settled bets on dogs that were not entered?

confused as the matched bets totals & settled bets totals dont add up to the numbers I can see


If you clock settings, the cog up on the top right below your balance, a box turns up. click and unclick include settled bets so you can see what your actual position is and what it is going forward.
Report woodmanchester April 28, 2016 2:37 PM BST
Lanza, still waiting for 150 Boom and 300 Astorish. After Boom's trial, can you go 300 the pair please? Happy
Report onthejim April 28, 2016 6:09 PM BST
Anyone know if billies are giving a free bet to same stake if your a/post bet gets knocked out in first round? (Think it was up to £50 last year.)
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y April 28, 2016 7:07 PM BST
Hills confirmed it will be running the popular ‘Second Chance' offer whereby punters placing outright bets on the Classic only to see them eliminated in round one will get money back as a free bet up to £100 to place on another greyhound before the second round. Eligible bets are those struck after the closing point of the Derby at noon last Tuesday (April 26) up until the start of the first round.
Report onthejim April 28, 2016 7:25 PM BST
thanks for that.
Report FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK April 30, 2016 6:57 PM BST
28.04 Buick
Report lanza April 30, 2016 9:45 PM BST
suspended again.  Laugh
Report TheGoddess April 30, 2016 11:16 PM BST
JOKE
Report FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK May 1, 2016 12:32 PM BST
five heats of six runners
where only TWO will qualify.

Know one wants them heats shocking
Report wondersobright May 1, 2016 1:05 PM BST
pitiful format, had a year to do something about it and yet same old sh1te again

might have to take up tiddliwinks all these weeks when sunderland not on the channelSad
Report backatrier May 1, 2016 1:12 PM BST
can we watch/listen to the draw anywhere?
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y May 1, 2016 1:14 PM BST
http://www.gbgb.org.uk/live-trap-draws.aspx


It's supposed to be on there i believe, no offence but surely your Sunday cannot be that bad
Report Addy_D May 1, 2016 1:28 PM BST
dont make out like you're not watching it PF Devil
Report backatrier May 1, 2016 1:30 PM BST
lol, mine and 36 others at the moment.
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y May 1, 2016 1:31 PM BST
haha i ain't, watching Liverpool getting beaten here

waiting for somebody to post it on here
Report Addy_D May 1, 2016 1:33 PM BST
i confess to trying to watch it but i gave up it was sticking all over the place. i think someone used their webcam for babestation and now it doesnt work Crazy
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y May 1, 2016 1:47 PM BST
https://twitter.com/GreyhoundBoard

It will be put up there
Report Addy_D May 1, 2016 2:08 PM BST
ta PF
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y May 1, 2016 2:09 PM BST
Two greyhounds will qualify from all five dog heats, plus six dog heats 1,3,4,29 and 29


say your prayers boys
Report Addy_D May 1, 2016 2:11 PM BST
heats 1,3,4,29,39 are heats of death
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y May 1, 2016 2:17 PM BST
i may as well be first, poxy fkin draw, GBGB wankbags
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y May 1, 2016 2:26 PM BST
Heat 20 is a shocker and only 2 qualify
Report woodmanchester May 1, 2016 2:38 PM BST
The way I see the highlights, Thursday:

Spartacus v Fergal and Boom
Jaytee Jet v Toolmaker (only 2 qualify)
Dutch v Twiggy
Roddick v Clondoty
Eden v Loose
Mucho v Turin
Panda v Awesome and Perry (only 2 qualify)
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y May 1, 2016 2:39 PM BST
You've done the card already Shocked
Report wondersobright May 1, 2016 2:39 PM BST
Laugh when you know the dogs inside out like woody does the card takes 2 mins max PF

Heat 20 (two qualify)
1 Gyp Rosetti
2 Cloran Paddy
3 Droopys Buick
4 vacant
5 Diego Flight (m)
6 Torphin Bluesky (w)

not good
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y May 1, 2016 2:42 PM BST
Heat 5 and 35 is quite annoying and i ain't too enamoured with heat 19 either
Report woodmanchester May 1, 2016 3:08 PM BST
I like that word enamoured Happy
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y May 1, 2016 3:20 PM BST
aye i swallowed a dictionary and decided to bring out some of the big guns
Report Addy_D May 1, 2016 3:22 PM BST
whats wrong with heat 35?
Report woodmanchester May 1, 2016 3:25 PM BST
I know its only abut qualifying at the moment but will be very surprised if Brogan doesn't win Friday, as Viking Jack running poorly at Sheffield and should have even been entered, imo

Heat 20 with only 2 through is a biggie: Buick, Cloran, Diego and Gyp. Plenty of antepost slips up in smoke certain here
Heat 22 tricky with only 2 through also, although not to much big names
Heat 23 no margin for error either with just a brace qualifying
Heat 24 tight with Coolavanny Pat, Jock and Master but all 3 could progress
Heat 25 Tosh v Sanchez interesting
Heat 26 loaded with useful dogs and your guess is as good as mine which 2 prevail

Gooch lucky to be running and Boyneside another where an accident could just be waiting to happen
Report woodmanchester May 1, 2016 3:45 PM BST
Hottish heat 27 but 28 and 29 may go to On Alert and Barricane Bullet
Heat 30 King Alley v Deanridge Angel with just two to go through
Heat 34 looking forward to lid-pingers match Domino and Bingo
Agree 35 could be awkward
38 the race of the night though with only 2 through. Iceman, Shirley, Boyneside. At least one departing

Talking of departing gotta dash. Cya Thursday!
Report backatrier May 3, 2016 8:56 PM BST
Notice the other place are yet to settle bets on dogs that have not gone into the 1st round draw.
Forest Twilight for example.
Report FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK May 3, 2016 9:11 PM BST
Backtatrier

What have you done ?? What are you after ??
Than maybe you can be set straight Wink
Report woodmanchester May 6, 2016 10:09 AM BST
Lanza, why Ladbrokes outright exchange still suspended?
Report woodmanchester May 6, 2016 7:21 PM BST
If it had been a two-dog qualifier last night, Roddick would be out now
Report woodmanchester May 11, 2016 11:56 AM BST
Update

7/1 Eden The Kid and 10/1 Jaytee Jet look plenty short enough at the moment. I know Eden runs Wimbo superbly but also did at Shawfield first round. Semis and final there not so hot, though. So, on the balance of form, wouldn't touch him with a barge pole 7/1 at this juncture, but happy with 40/1

Jet lacks a shade of early prowess and again, 10/1 not very attractive. Got 66/1 though

The dog for me at the moment is 16/1 Jaytee Spartacus

Elsewhere, I could be interested in a few at 25/1 Hiya Butt, Roxholme Barkley and Jaytee Dutch

Bigger 80/1 Twiggy, 115 Boom and 130 Alert, but happy with my team as it stands

What price a Jaytee winner of the Derby, anyone?

Cheers!
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y May 11, 2016 11:59 AM BST
4/1
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y May 11, 2016 12:02 PM BST
How is 10s Jaytee Jet not attractive? I will take all your money out of the dog (that you bet at 66s) at 10s seems as you deem that under his true chances
Report woodmanchester May 11, 2016 12:05 PM BST
Just think he will get caught out early one round, bumped and out. Long way to go. Hope I'm wrong

Keep thinking back to the quick runs for Eden last year. Know he was only a puppy then, but he couldn't stand up after the semis, could he?
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y May 11, 2016 12:08 PM BST
Well if you don't fancy Jaytee Jet here is your chance to lock in a profit
Report woodmanchester May 11, 2016 12:14 PM BST
Well, penalty kick Saturday so will hold on. Cant you get any cash on at 10/1?
Report wondersobright May 11, 2016 12:14 PM BST
woodmanchester  • May 11, 2016 11:56 AM BST 
Update

7/1 Eden The Kid and 10/1 Jaytee Jet look plenty short enough at the moment. I know Eden runs Wimbo superbly but also did at Shawfield first round. Semis and final there not so hot, though. So, on the balance of form, wouldn't touch him with a barge pole 7/1 at this juncture, but happy with 40/1

Jet lacks a shade of early prowess and again, 10/1 not very attractive. Got 66/1 though


first class gloating as usual from you woodie

7/1 wouldn't touch him with a barge pole...no problem got 40s, 10/1 not for me at all...no problem as on at 66s Laugh genius
Report wondersobright May 11, 2016 12:15 PM BST
it will all end in tears like it usually does
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y May 11, 2016 12:16 PM BST
ho hum, I did my best Jet backers SillyDevil
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y May 11, 2016 12:24 PM BST
You've nearly got it now Woody, he is by no means a penalty kick on Saturday, he should win and you'd be disguised where he not to qualify. We've only got 18 or 19 (w)s now left, lose another 10 of them this week (fair chance of happening) and then he is guaranteed 6 again as a sole wide in a heat and he conceivably could have it like that for the rest of the Derby
Report lockup May 11, 2016 8:01 PM BST
the only flaw I could see was his trapping strong runner, but a lot of early about this year.
Report lanza May 12, 2016 10:26 PM BST
how can the other place be ready within 2 minutes of the last heat finishing and priced up within 5 minuted while its still suspended here? Laugh
Report TheGoddess May 12, 2016 10:57 PM BST
AN HOUR AND 3/4'S AFTER THE LAST RACE AND STILL SUSPENDED FFS

CryCryCryCryCryCryCryCryCryCryCryCry
Report woodmanchester May 13, 2016 7:17 AM BST
Liking 64.0 You Never Listen and 156.0 Clondoty Alex but requesting for even better off Lanza Happy
Report woodmanchester May 13, 2016 7:56 AM BST
Books going 16/1 Domino. Wish I could lay some of my 400/1 off at that price!
Report woodmanchester May 14, 2016 7:03 AM BST
Looking at Ladbrokes exchanges, sure there cant be a gulf of 18.0 Domino Storm and 64.0 You Never Listen. Will be interested to see revised top bitch market
Report FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK May 14, 2016 8:28 AM BST
Wonder if they dare switch her in the week
Being as Thursday runner got the extre few days rest
Report wondersobright May 14, 2016 11:23 AM BST
would be fkin madness riddler

if she makes the 3 runs in a week they will be glad of all the rest they can get into her at this stage
Report woodmanchester May 25, 2016 7:43 AM BST
Soft boy, with bets like 25/1 Butt, 50/1 Roddick, 50/1 Jock, 66/1 Jet, 66/1 Dutch 80/1 Brogan and 249/1 Peregrine, you can afford to pick a few! CoolWink
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y May 27, 2016 5:33 PM BST
oddschecker

┌∩┐ (◣_◢)┌∩┐

you useless fackwits

put up the bloody full wimbledon card
Report woodmanchester May 29, 2016 4:40 AM BST
Think 4/1 Droopys Roddick a good price to approach something like his 27.97 Puppy Derby form. Cant be having Jaytee Jet at a short 7/4. He's not getting any quicker with sluggish starting and strictly speaking, held by Roddick on semi form. 11/4 Lenson Rocky short, too. Has less than an equal chance as 10/1 Cloran Paddy on quarter-final form and there's also the Lister factor. 8/1 Hiya Butt's draw is all against him, needs to ping to clear but still unlikely to hold on, unless traffic problems behind. Think you could find worse 33/1 each-way chances than Peregrine Falcon, but I got 249/1 already

Scores on the doors:
Roddick (excellent win)
Jet or Peregrine (good win)
Any other winner (break even)

Happy
Report woodmanchester May 30, 2016 4:51 PM BST
Excellent, star-studded finals night programme. Just a few highlights:

Sprint, Ballybee Brewery v Suirside Leah and Glenanore Ace
Standard, Southfield Jock v California and Shaneboy Freddie
Stayers, worthy of a Leger final with mainly Fizzypop Buddy and Diego Flight
Dorando, Roxholme Magic and Ribble Atom
Then, the 3 finals
Ballymac Brogan v Making Paper and Barricane Bullet
Anglo-Irish Invitation, Roswell Iceman v Boyneside Fun. If you can spot an Irish dog, youre a better man than me! Laugh
Seniors, On Alert v Blackstone Marco, King Dec
British Bred, Eden The Kid v Calco Flyer and Old Joe Golden

Might have to miss the last two races, coz getting the red-eye home
Report woodmanchester June 6, 2016 10:47 AM BST
Lanza, think you said Jaytee Jet your worst result at just £2k. Was it not possible to adjust your stance on the final?
Report lanza June 7, 2016 4:10 PM BST
hi woody,

it was, i did. Jet was still my worst result but the difference between 2nd-3-4-5-6 results wasn't that great in the end and playing safe sadly paid off.

Still wanted roddick and topped up at 8/1 winning under 2 lengths.  Won close to 7k but less than £50 on here. Roddick was about 12 in the end :-(

Roll on English Derby 2017...hopefully at wimbledon?

2016 just needed a few 1/100ths either way at various times and could have been so much better.
Report woodmanchester June 9, 2016 9:13 AM BST
Christmas come early when a couple were singing 'Fairytale of New York' in the karaoke bar last night. I was singing along: "Got on a lucky one, came in at 66/1!" Laugh
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